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Old 01-09-2011, 10:26 AM
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Just starting to install a DLE 20 into a Seagull Extra 260. Will be mounting it inverted. Did you put in any right thrust? Appears that the motor box does not have any?

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Old 01-09-2011, 12:05 PM
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Just starting to install a DLE 20 into a Seagull Extra 260. Will be mounting it inverted. Did you put in any right thrust? Appears that the motor box does not have any?

Thanks

Bruce
Not at first. However on the maiden doing a upline it did go left a little. So I ended up putting a 1/32 plywood shim underneath the pilots left motor mount. That was enough to make the uplines straight.

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Old 01-09-2011, 06:19 PM
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What spark plug can i replace the stock plug with on DLE 20
Old 01-09-2011, 06:27 PM
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According to sparkplugs dot com, the equivalent of the NGK CM-6 is either a Champion Y82 or a Denso U20MU. Hope they're right, cause I just ordered two Champions. (though my NGK seems to be working fine so far).
Old 01-09-2011, 07:10 PM
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Here you go, pics from camera phone...
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Old 01-09-2011, 07:43 PM
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It is best to use the NGK CM-6 plug as the others are not exactly the same size
Old 01-09-2011, 09:26 PM
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i was wandering if someone can help me.

It seems i have a tuning issue with my DLE 20. the engine idles well and it's giving me great top end RPM and alot the transition is without hesitation. the problem im having is that is i push up the throttle from idle to full power the engine switches off. what are the remedies for this?
Old 01-09-2011, 09:28 PM
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richen up the low speed needle
Old 01-09-2011, 10:06 PM
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richen up the low speed needle
thanks for the info. would it be beause of the ignition? because i changed over my plug from the DLE plug to the NGK plug. and can you advice me what plug gap to use. (please specify the unit ot measure)

Old 01-09-2011, 10:17 PM
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plug gap is around .020" inches or 0.5mm. You indicated your engine would just die, when advancing the throttle. That is normally an indication of a lean low needle.
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so it has nothing to do with the ignition?
Old 01-09-2011, 11:15 PM
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Just wondering how the DLE 20 would perform on a Seagull Spacewalker 120.

Specifications :

•Wingspan: 2100mm (82.7")
•Length: 1490mm (58.7")
•Weight: 5kg
•Engine: 120 - 150 4 stroke
Old 01-10-2011, 02:03 AM
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ORIGINAL: bgee

Just wondering how the DLE 20 would perform on a Seagull Spacewalker 120.
At 11 lbs the DLE20cc will fly it just fine!

Only two areas of concern, both to do with the L-G;

First off Seagull models L-G seems made out of the crappiest aluminum in the world! They bend/fatigue far too easily.

Secondly, the stock L-G may be too short for the better props this DLE20cc can use. Specifically the 16-17" props. You should look into better(stronger) L-G, and taller too.

For some make your own L-G and CHEAP too;
Stop by your local County or State Highway Dept facility, and see if they'll let you have a scrapped roadsign destined for the recycle bin.
Find someone with a table saw with a carbide tipped blade, and cut out strips the width of the stock L-G. Cut to length, bend as needed, drill as needed, and presto....almost FREE L-G, better than stock!!!
Old 01-10-2011, 05:05 AM
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For some make your own L-G and CHEAP too;
Stop by your local County or State Highway Dept facility, and see if they'll let you have a scrapped roadsign destined for the recycle bin.
Find someone with a table saw with a carbide tipped blade, and cut out strips the width of the stock L-G. Cut to length, bend as needed, drill as needed, and presto....almost FREE L-G, better than stock!!!
I usually make my own landing gear and I get the aluminum from Home Depot or Lowes. They have 1.25" and 1.5" wide and 1/8" thick aluminum in three foot lengths. Earlier in this thread I posted a few pics of how I make my own.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:35 AM
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boostoman,

From the symptoms that you described, no it has nothing to do with the ignition. It is a tuning problem.
Old 01-10-2011, 02:59 PM
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Aeroworks 60/90 with the DLE 20 winter project.

Report to follow when the snow clears.

Carb Settings at manual recommendations and runs fine in the garage.

Now I just need some confirmation on the correct CG, alot of opinions and suggestions on where to measure.
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:00 PM
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oh, and if someone could clue me in on why my post pictures are out of bounds,,,,,,,excuse the IT issue
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You might consider some 3/8 tri stock on either the upper or lower part of where the horizontal stab joins the fuse.

Easy add on is to cut and sand your tristock to the length, draw around it with a fine tip marker on the existing covering.....cover the outside of your tri stock....peel off the covering where joined....use 5 minute epoxy and you are done...maybe some clean up...

On my 58 inch Slide profile I should have done the tri stock thing... but didn't....the gasser pulled the glue joint loose on the slab in a few flights....plane already had a bunch of Saito 100 flights on it....just sayin".....
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Good think'n, I'll add the triangle support,,,,,,,,

i think even my 40 MOJO had that as a stock part of the build
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Aeroworks 60/90 with the DLE 20 winter project.

Now I just need some confirmation on the correct CG, alot of opinions and suggestions on where to measure.
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:47 PM
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yes, i saw that, the attachment wouldnt open unfortunately.
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Those two colored lines of text are hot links, not attachments.
Both opened fine here. Just run your mouse pointer over them then double-click on each one.

Takes you right to the AeroWorks Support section here on RCU.


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_428/tt.htm

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_96...m.htm#10036704
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DLE20 will be going into a AW 60/90 300XL

I want to use a 2300 mAh 2s1P battery pack to supply power to both receiver and ignition. Being that this battery is 6.6 volts nominal and even 7.2 volts just after a full charge, I must reduce the voltage that goes to the ignition module to below 6.0 volts to insure the module doesn't fail. I would like to get that voltage to anywhere between 4.8 to 5.5 volts.

After a lot of reading here and elsewhere I thought I'd try my hand at making a voltage reducer lead using two 1N4007 diodes in series, spliced into the red wire on a 6 inch servo extension lead. From what others have said I understood each diode should cause a .7 volt drop in voltage. Therefore with two of them in series I should get about a 1.4 voltage drop from the nominal 6.6 volts resulting in about 5.2 volts, right?

Well, I soldered the diodes in series and then spliced them into the red wire making sure the stripe on each diode was facing the ignition module (away from the battery side). I checked the voltage of my battery pack and read 6.5 volts. I then connected the battery pack to the extension and read the voltage at the other end and it read 6.1 volts. All I got was a .4 volt drop. I was expecting about a 1.4 volt drop for a reading of about 5.1 volts.

Did I do something wrong? Does there need to be a load placed on the battery in order to see the 1.4 drop or have I soldered it wrong. I bought the two 1N4007 diodes from Radio Shack. I believe I have adequate soldering skills. I just didn't get the results I expected.

Thanks for your help.

Mike
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boostoman,

look at post #5 in this thread. It has very good tuning instructions from Jody at VVRC.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10254571
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ORIGINAL: Indiomike

DLE20 will be going into a AW 60/90 300XL

I want to use a 2300 mAh 2s1P battery pack to supply power to both receiver and ignition. Being that this battery is 6.6 volts nominal and even 7.2 volts just after a full charge, I must reduce the voltage that goes to the ignition module to below 6.0 volts to insure the module doesn't fail. I would like to get that voltage to anywhere between 4.8 to 5.5 volts.

After a lot of reading here and elsewhere I thought I'd try my hand at making a voltage reducer lead using two 1N4007 diodes in series, spliced into the red wire on a 6 inch servo extension lead. From what others have said I understood each diode should cause a .7 volt drop in voltage. Therefore with two of them in series I should get about a 1.4 voltage drop from the nominal 6.6 volts resulting in about 5.2 volts, right?

Well, I soldered the diodes in series and then spliced them into the red wire making sure the stripe on each diode was facing the ignition module (away from the battery side). I checked the voltage of my battery pack and read 6.5 volts. I then connected the battery pack to the extension and read the voltage at the other end and it read 6.1 volts. All I got was a .4 volt drop. I was expecting about a 1.4 volt drop for a reading of about 5.1 volts.

Did I do something wrong? Does there need to be a load placed on the battery in order to see the 1.4 drop or have I soldered it wrong. I bought the two 1N4007 diodes from Radio Shack. I believe I have adequate soldering skills. I just didn't get the results I expected.

Thanks for your help.

Mike
If you got one of the diodes to hot when soldering it it may have shorted out internally causing it to act just like a piece of solid wire.You cancheck them individually with an ohm meter, you should have continuity in one direction only, if there is continuity in both directions it's shorted.


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