DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
I am having a little problem with one of my DLE20's...I cannot get it to reliable idle...it idles for a few seconds then dies. Plug: NKG CM-6, Fuel: 32:1 mixture, Prop: 17X8 Vess,
Ran about 1 quart of fuel...It seems like the low end is too lean, I keep richen it, but it still dies after a few seconds....This has happen all of a sudden. I am using the same fuel
for my other DLE20 without any problems...HELP...PLEASE
Ran about 1 quart of fuel...It seems like the low end is too lean, I keep richen it, but it still dies after a few seconds....This has happen all of a sudden. I am using the same fuel
for my other DLE20 without any problems...HELP...PLEASE
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
You might be going the wrong way..It could be loading up and needs to be leaned out...Try going the other way with your low speed needle..
05-13-2011, 01:15 AM
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You might be going the wrong way..It could be loading up and needs to be leaned out...Try going the other way with your low speed needle..
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Thank you for the help...this is a very unusual problem...Tried today..Started the engine..OK...it even idle for a while...got ready to fly...started the engine..did not want to IDLE..
It would come down to an idle...for about 10 seconds then die...tried leaning out..did not help..got it to idle a little while advanced the throttle..it quits (normal indication of lean)
Played with it a while..just could not get it to reliable idle...Sending it in for warranty repair..
It would come down to an idle...for about 10 seconds then die...tried leaning out..did not help..got it to idle a little while advanced the throttle..it quits (normal indication of lean)
Played with it a while..just could not get it to reliable idle...Sending it in for warranty repair..
05-13-2011, 05:11 PM
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Try taking the carb apart first. Others have found small metal particles inside from the factory in the fuel inlet and around the float valve.
05-13-2011, 07:15 PM
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what is the distance between the mounting holes from on side to the other? the manual says 3.33 in.,tower hobbies specs. say 2.4in.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
jodi i'm sure the jb a15 would be a better match , but do you think the dle20 would work with 60size aeromaster
05-13-2011, 09:16 PM
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Whose Aeromaster, have a link? The DLE20 is very light and powerful for a gas engine it's size, it's the same size and power as a 1.20 glow powered engine. It seems like an awful lot of engine for a .60 sized anything.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: telejojo
Would this engine be the same power as a 1.20 glow?
Would this engine be the same power as a 1.20 glow?
See {Interesting Comments} in Post #1;
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9863953
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a1pcfixer thanks for the info. i want to try and stay with .40 to .60 size planes(space) i'll check the jba15 thread also.
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a1pcfixer in post 1160 it says to 20 cc is the replacement for the .90-.120 4 stroke. what 2 stroke would that be. thanks
05-14-2011, 07:23 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: gramps45
a1pcfixer thanks for the info. i want to try and stay with .40 to .60 size planes(space) i'll check the jba15 thread also.
a1pcfixer thanks for the info. i want to try and stay with .40 to .60 size planes(space) i'll check the jba15 thread also.
Besides the JBA-15g there's also the NGH GT 17 Gas Engine,
which is essentially the same identical engine, only improved.
http://agaperacingandhobby.com/viewi...?productid=388
NGH GAS ENGINES...........
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10436663
VVRC is supposed to also be carrying them, but nothing on their web site as yet.
05-14-2011, 07:26 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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a1pcfixer thanks for the info. i want to try and stay with .40 to .60 size planes(space) i'll check the jba15 thread also.
a1pcfixer thanks for the info. i want to try and stay with .40 to .60 size planes(space) i'll check the jba15 thread also.
05-14-2011, 07:28 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: gramps45
a1pcfixer in post 1160 it says to 20 cc is the replacement for the .90-.120 4 stroke. what 2 stroke would that be. thanks
a1pcfixer in post 1160 it says to 20 cc is the replacement for the .90-.120 4 stroke. what 2 stroke would that be. thanks
05-14-2011, 07:54 AM
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ORIGINAL: sandyjain
Hi Jody,
Will the RCExl CDI model A-01 work with the DLE20 ? I think this replacement CDi is for the DLE50.
Hi Jody,
Will the RCExl CDI model A-01 work with the DLE20 ? I think this replacement CDi is for the DLE50.
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: gramps45
a1pcfixer in post 1160 it says to 20 cc is the replacement for the .90-.120 4 stroke. what 2 stroke would that be. thanks
a1pcfixer in post 1160 it says to 20 cc is the replacement for the .90-.120 4 stroke. what 2 stroke would that be. thanks
Forget what you know about 2 stroke glows when you move up to the DLE20cc gas, and think of it more in regards to high torque.
Yes, rpm counts, but only up to the peak of torque, after that it's wasted energy.
The .90 - 1.20 equals 15cc - 20cc, more so over 2 stroke glow -vs- whatever.
Various post in this thread state the DLE20cc gas is equal to a 1.20 glow.
But those of us actually running them would say it's more like a 1.20+ on steroids!!!
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Hi,
I want to set up a Phoenix Extra 330s 60-91 size.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUY2&P=ML
A few notes on my dilemma
a) I have been contemplating whether to make it gas or nitro for a long time. Now, I have a 120ax which was originally intended for another airplane (H9 Funtana 125) but after I saw this Extra at my LHS available as scratch&dent (its an old piece), I couldnt resist.
b) I want to move away from nitro due to the fuel costs and have never used a gas engine before. Thus this will be my first gasser.
c) Thing is, the DLE weighs 825gms which is similar to the 120 but people were suggesting to install a 95ax on this airplane which is 745gms for the lower wing loading for 3d.
d) I will probably use the same or another DLE20 on the Funtana 125 and I will be getting a DLE30 for an AW Yak 120 QB which is some time away
e) The monsoon will start in mid June and then there wont be any flying till september-october
It is now finally time to decide what to do as I have already put together my Extra. I need to place the order on Sunday. So
1) Should I go with the Extra and DLE20 or should I get a 95ax for now and a DLE30 later, thus completely skipping the DLE 20?
2) If I am to get the DLE 20, what issues should I be aware of? For example- spark plug issue I read, anything else?
3) Am thinking of using seperate LiFe battery packs for igniton and RX. LiFes are 6.6v nominal. Will the ignition system accept them?
4) The manual asks for seperate choke and throttle servos. Do I need seperate servos and if so are mini sizes ones (such as 225mg) ok?
5) The manual also asks for 2-piece Dubro anti-vibe beam mounts. I have a cople of these for the 50-75 2c and 75-90 4c engines. Not only are these undersized but also heavy, meaning the wing loading in this already heavy model will be still greater. I was planning to use the GP adjustable 90-120 mount. The manual clearly says not to use this type of mount but I saw a couple of pictures where people have used it anyway. Is the Dubro mount really required?
6) What other accessories do I need- i.e. kill switch, electronic tach etc and where do I get them. I will be ordreing the DLE from Singapore hobbies?
Please advice
Ameyam
I want to set up a Phoenix Extra 330s 60-91 size.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUY2&P=ML
A few notes on my dilemma
a) I have been contemplating whether to make it gas or nitro for a long time. Now, I have a 120ax which was originally intended for another airplane (H9 Funtana 125) but after I saw this Extra at my LHS available as scratch&dent (its an old piece), I couldnt resist.
b) I want to move away from nitro due to the fuel costs and have never used a gas engine before. Thus this will be my first gasser.
c) Thing is, the DLE weighs 825gms which is similar to the 120 but people were suggesting to install a 95ax on this airplane which is 745gms for the lower wing loading for 3d.
d) I will probably use the same or another DLE20 on the Funtana 125 and I will be getting a DLE30 for an AW Yak 120 QB which is some time away
e) The monsoon will start in mid June and then there wont be any flying till september-october
It is now finally time to decide what to do as I have already put together my Extra. I need to place the order on Sunday. So
1) Should I go with the Extra and DLE20 or should I get a 95ax for now and a DLE30 later, thus completely skipping the DLE 20?
2) If I am to get the DLE 20, what issues should I be aware of? For example- spark plug issue I read, anything else?
3) Am thinking of using seperate LiFe battery packs for igniton and RX. LiFes are 6.6v nominal. Will the ignition system accept them?
4) The manual asks for seperate choke and throttle servos. Do I need seperate servos and if so are mini sizes ones (such as 225mg) ok?
5) The manual also asks for 2-piece Dubro anti-vibe beam mounts. I have a cople of these for the 50-75 2c and 75-90 4c engines. Not only are these undersized but also heavy, meaning the wing loading in this already heavy model will be still greater. I was planning to use the GP adjustable 90-120 mount. The manual clearly says not to use this type of mount but I saw a couple of pictures where people have used it anyway. Is the Dubro mount really required?
6) What other accessories do I need- i.e. kill switch, electronic tach etc and where do I get them. I will be ordreing the DLE from Singapore hobbies?
Please advice
Ameyam
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ORIGINAL: ameyam
Hi,
I want to set up a Phoenix Extra 330s 60-91 size.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUY2&P=ML
A few notes on my dilemma
a) I have been contemplating whether to make it gas or nitro for a long time. Now, I have a 120ax which was originally intended for another airplane (H9 Funtana 125) but after I saw this Extra at my LHS available as scratch&dent (its an old piece), I couldnt resist.
b) I want to move away from nitro due to the fuel costs and have never used a gas engine before. Thus this will be my first gasser.
c) Thing is, the DLE weighs 825gms which is similar to the 120 but people were suggesting to install a 95ax on this airplane which is 745gms for the lower wing loading for 3d.
d) I will probably use the same or another DLE20 on the Funtana 125 and I will be getting a DLE30 for an AW Yak 120 QB which is some time away
e) The monsoon will start in mid June and then there wont be any flying till september-october
It is now finally time to decide what to do as I have already put together my Extra. I need to place the order on Sunday. So
1) Should I go with the Extra and DLE20 or should I get a 95ax for now and a DLE30 later, thus completely skipping the DLE 20?
2) If I am to get the DLE 20, what issues should I be aware of? For example- spark plug issue I read, anything else?
3) Am thinking of using seperate LiFe battery packs for igniton and RX. LiFes are 6.6v nominal. Will the ignition system accept them?
4) The manual asks for seperate choke and throttle servos. Do I need seperate servos and if so are mini sizes ones (such as 225mg) ok?
5) The manual also asks for 2-piece Dubro anti-vibe beam mounts. I have a cople of these for the 50-75 2c and 75-90 4c engines. Not only are these undersized but also heavy, meaning the wing loading in this already heavy model will be still greater. I was planning to use the GP adjustable 90-120 mount. The manual clearly says not to use this type of mount but I saw a couple of pictures where people have used it anyway. Is the Dubro mount really required?
6) What other accessories do I need- i.e. kill switch, electronic tach etc and where do I get them. I will be ordreing the DLE from Singapore hobbies?
Please advice
Ameyam
Hi,
I want to set up a Phoenix Extra 330s 60-91 size.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUY2&P=ML
A few notes on my dilemma
a) I have been contemplating whether to make it gas or nitro for a long time. Now, I have a 120ax which was originally intended for another airplane (H9 Funtana 125) but after I saw this Extra at my LHS available as scratch&dent (its an old piece), I couldnt resist.
b) I want to move away from nitro due to the fuel costs and have never used a gas engine before. Thus this will be my first gasser.
c) Thing is, the DLE weighs 825gms which is similar to the 120 but people were suggesting to install a 95ax on this airplane which is 745gms for the lower wing loading for 3d.
d) I will probably use the same or another DLE20 on the Funtana 125 and I will be getting a DLE30 for an AW Yak 120 QB which is some time away
e) The monsoon will start in mid June and then there wont be any flying till september-october
It is now finally time to decide what to do as I have already put together my Extra. I need to place the order on Sunday. So
1) Should I go with the Extra and DLE20 or should I get a 95ax for now and a DLE30 later, thus completely skipping the DLE 20?
2) If I am to get the DLE 20, what issues should I be aware of? For example- spark plug issue I read, anything else?
3) Am thinking of using seperate LiFe battery packs for igniton and RX. LiFes are 6.6v nominal. Will the ignition system accept them?
4) The manual asks for seperate choke and throttle servos. Do I need seperate servos and if so are mini sizes ones (such as 225mg) ok?
5) The manual also asks for 2-piece Dubro anti-vibe beam mounts. I have a cople of these for the 50-75 2c and 75-90 4c engines. Not only are these undersized but also heavy, meaning the wing loading in this already heavy model will be still greater. I was planning to use the GP adjustable 90-120 mount. The manual clearly says not to use this type of mount but I saw a couple of pictures where people have used it anyway. Is the Dubro mount really required?
6) What other accessories do I need- i.e. kill switch, electronic tach etc and where do I get them. I will be ordreing the DLE from Singapore hobbies?
Please advice
Ameyam