a1pcfixer

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Might help to remember that they open at 9:00 and they're on
Pacific Standard Time ( West Coast Time )

So, might be later today before Jody responds.

As to the newer style mufflers; maybe he'll announce them once they
get stocked up, and the mufflers meet specs.

Lifer

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Great response, SpinnerRow. Got a good laugh out of the Yoda-Speak!

a1pcfixer

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Experten109/40

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not a big fan of those pitts style mufflers. this engine begs for something like THIS

rc34074

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LOL!! so the padewon is allowed to ask questions? Hmmm...

Ed

a1pcfixer

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P-40K-5

Those look very heavy!

SpinnerRow

Nahh... More like [link=http://www.escomposites.com/petrol.htm]THIS[/link].

Experten109/40

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ummm nope. don't need some big ugly tuned pipe sticking out of the P-40 cowl and killing the lines of it.
if I did I'd just get a "cheap scalish chinese arf". no thanks. reason for my above link it would be perfect for
P-51's, P-40's, etc.

SpinnerRow

Yea, but think about all of that POOWWWAAAAHHH!!!

Experten109/40

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2,5hp is more then enough. and after tuning 2-stroke motocross engines for 25 years..
don't kid yourself on how much horsepower will be gained.

18x8 3-blade prop, 7000rpm and a scalelike 65mph is all I need.

SpinnerRow

Just hackin' on ya... I plan to see exactly what a carbon pipe will do to one of these engines here shortly.


Someone asked some where in this ever growing thread about choke setups. Here is mine as well as some pics of my Jtech standard size Pitts wrap around muffler on my ancient Aeroworks Edge 540T. If you don't recognize that red "bracket" I'm using, it is one of those big red servo arms you get with Hitec servos. I cut two legs off of it, heated it with a heat gun, twisted it and drilled a couple of holes in it. Nothing fancy.

a1pcfixer

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Good photos on the choke linkage, much needed!

That muffler looks huge!

a1pcfixer

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Over the past 4 months, many have posted asking "Is this engine
a good match to this xxx-xxx model?"

Some don't do their homework (read this thread), some don't understand
this engine's incredible power. Others are just new to gassers.

So maybe a very rough guideline of sorts might help some in deciding
if this DLE20cc gas engine is -or- is not a good match for their model.

This DLE20cc gas engine, is a drop in replacement for most any model
aircraft requiring a glow engine of .90 -to- 1.20 size.

So, if the specs on your model states .90 -to- 1.20, then this DLE20c
is very likely a good match!

If your model states ONLY .90, then maybe. Things like wing area, wing
loading, assembled weight, and so on will determine if it's a good match.

If your model's specs state anything less than a .90 size engine, then
most like it's NOT a good match! There are a few exceptions.

Overall, roughly speaking; this DLE20cc will be good for many model
aircraft requiring a glow engine of a range of between .90 -to- 1.20 size,
and weighing between 7 lbs -to- around abouts 20 lbs.

For 3D'ing; 7-9 lbs but the closer you get to 9 lbs, the slower pull-outs
from a hover, will be.

General sport flying; 9-13 lbs (roughly speaking), and still be spirited.

Scale flying; 10-20 lbs, but as you exceed 14 lbs it may be a bit sluggish.
A long take-off may be needed, a large wing span WILL be helpfull!

In ALL cases, reinforcing the firewall for the stresses of a gas engine
is a very wise move!!!

One other issue to consider in matching this DLE20cc gas engine to your
model will be prop -to- ground clearance. The sweet spot of engine
torque/thrust for this engine is with a 17" prop. Yes, DLE states the
prop range as 14x10 - 17x6, but the 17" props are right in it's power band.

That brings up issues of ground clearance on some potential selections of
models. Some warbirds (and other models) may have issues of prop -to- ground
clearance. If your chosen model states .90 -to- 1.20 then you should be OK.

If you can stuff this DLE20cc into your model, but have ground clearance
issues, then a 3 or 4 bladed prop may be required, or go with a smaller
prop.

This DLE20cc gas engine has more power than a CRRC Pro 26 or a Saito 1.25
(Saito FG-20/gasser) and is a drop in replacement for most any model
aircraft requiring a glow engine of .90 -to- 1.20 size.

Proceed accordingly!

Recap of DLE20cc gas engine......

jedijody

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You've been doing an incredible job here but another page and a half and all that typing will be for naught,sorry, been there done that many times.

steinywi

DLE-20 + GP Reactor Bipe + 7 lbs 10oz and a zoar 16X8 prop 8400RPM = a real good time. Maiden soon!

skip1320

Nice! just paint the muffler orange!

a1pcfixer

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Jody,

Thanks, and true....but maybe one or two might 'get-it'.[sm=72_72.gif]

mschulz531

Jody,
What do you mean by that? Is there some limit that will happen in another page and a half? Does the thread "fill up" or something?
-Mike

a1pcfixer

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No, he's implying I'm wasting my breath, typing what I did on matching your model -to- this DLE20cc gas engine.

Too many asking that, haven't been paying attention, and still try mis-matching this engine to wrong models.
My attempts to help in that area, likely won't do much good.

If you look up at the top of the page on any message thread on RCU, you'll see listed, users viewing this topic.
But, often if say a thread has 25 people listed viewing a topic, there's probably 100 'lurking' (not registered/logged-in).

Maybe I'll have helped a few of them make good matches of this engine to a model[sm=thumbs_up.gif]...........maybe not.[sm=disappointed.gif]

Experten109/40

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I listened.

TFGE 65" span P-40 + 10.5lbs + 16x8 3blade + DLE20 = awesome.

a1pcfixer

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Well, very good indeed!

Two things though;

(1) Get out the fish scale and check what kinds of thrust @ xxxx RPM you're getting with that 3-blade 16x8 prop.

(2) TFGE=Top flight gold edition???

ghoffman

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I flew mine again today, 40F, 20+ winds! It is very consistent starting after a week sitting, flip about 8x with the choke closed, ignition on, sputter then die. Turn the choke off, flip once, let it warm up a little, then fly. This is going to be alot of fun in a lot more capable airframe like the 3DHS Velox, the weights are about the same! So far, I really like the Vess 17-6 with this engine. Did I mention that there were heavy winds? Who cares, it just eats the wind.

Experten109/40

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(1) alrighty. I gather you think it may not be enough thrust?
(2) yep. Top Flite Gold Edition Kit. I'm no longer a ARF kinda guy lol.

mesaflyer

Well, I appreciate it. I have subscribed and read this entire thread, and by my best guess, there is about 10% that pertains to the DLE 20. Not sure what to call the other 90%. Jody may not remember me, but he helped me last year with a CRRC26 that I did not even purchase from VVRC. Because of his help, and his rep, I (ok, my wife) will be ordering this engine for me for Xmas from VVRC. What I am looking for on here is what peoples experiences (good or bad, but hopefully not bad) have been with this engine.
Thanks for putting a lot of useful (useful to me at least) info on one post!

ggraham500

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I have two CRRC Pro GF26I v2 engines from VVRC and LOVE them. Steady power, excellent transition. On one engine now I have over 14 hrs of flying time on it. I use a BAMBULA maple laminated wood 16x8 prop. I constantly get raves about the engine from others at the field.

I also bough 2 MT-35 engines and DLE-20 from VVRC. I am completely happy with all my purchases and especially the incredible service from Jody Haack!