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Old 07-17-2011, 10:23 PM
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i have this muffler http://www.valleyviewrc.com/estore/a...-mufflers.html itleaks like crazy, not from the flange area but from the welds...they appear to be porous welds.....kinda messy , ohh well



what RPM are you getting Timble? sounds like it could be lean
Old 07-17-2011, 10:28 PM
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on the ground, 8500rpm with JXF 16x8 beech.

it'll run there for about 5-6secs then the roms drop off to 8200rpm
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richen your high end...if that doesnt fix it richen your low end eventually youll find the sweet spot
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Ok will try that. Had it set up on the std muffler buti guess the mini pipe requires a bit more fuel.
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Flew my first DLE 20 this weekend. Runs perfectly. It might need some minute tweaking, but surprisingly I did not touch the needles. Very powerful. I have it on a 65" Pica FW190 D. Perfect combo I think. It seemed to run out of steam a little going vertical. I may need to try a different prop or it needs to break in. I am very happy and this will not be my last DLE 20. Prop is a Xoar 16-8
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what does your FW190D weigh?
Old 07-18-2011, 09:35 AM
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Wondering how the DLE 20cc would do in a CMP Focke Wulf 190 calls for a 90 to 108 2 stroke. With a 70in wing span. Don't know the weight but it seems like a pretty light layup. I believe it will fit in the cowl,at least I hope it would.
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ORIGINAL: unclecrash

Wondering how the DLE 20cc would do in a CMP Focke Wulf 190 calls for a 90 to 108 2 stroke. With a 70in wing span. Don't know the weight but it seems like a pretty light layup. I believe it will fit in the cowl,at least I hope it would.
The 4.6kg weight on the CMP website seems to indicate about a 10lb model...that may be ok for sport flying, but not much more. I do know that many people are flying a 70" Revolver with a DLE-20 and reporting great performance from that combination.
-Mike

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I am pretty sure it is not much more than 7 lbs, but I will verify when I get home. One thing is for sure, it is really fast. I got lots of good comments at the field. That little plane is a real beast now. Pretty excited about it.
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ORIGINAL: vertical grimmace

I am pretty sure it is not much more than 7 lbs, but I will verify when I get home. One thing is for sure, it is really fast. I got lots of good comments at the field. That little plane is a real beast now. Pretty excited about it.
I was actually responding to unclecrash about his CMP Focke Wolfe 190 with a 70inch wingspan.

I'm glad to hear about your plane; sounds great, compliments at the field are always a good affirmation! Would love to see a few pictures!
-Mike

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Well, since I threw it out there, surprisingly the beast weighs 10 lbs 13 oz. Almost 11lbs! Maybe that is why the vertical slowed a little. Still, the plane flies great, good slow stall, and is fast as heck. That might seem like a heavy number, but it flies just fine and I am at 5,000' altitude as well. I will get some pics up shortly.
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ORIGINAL: vertical grimmace

Well, since I threw it out there, surprisingly the beast weighs 10 lbs 13 oz. Almost 11lbs! Maybe that is why the vertical slowed a little. Still, the plane flies great, good slow stall, and is fast as heck. That might seem like a heavy number, but it flies just fine and I am at 5,000' altitude as well. I will get some pics up shortly.
Good to know! Did you have a different motor on your FW-190 before the DLE-20? If so, which engine/prop?

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I had a JBA 15 cc, and had a ton of trouble with it. I think I was running 14" props on it. I am going to blame myself though, as it may have been set up. Tank or a pressure line pinched off or something. The design was not oriented for these types of engines. Stock, they have you build it for an upright install. I took the bandsaw to the nose and scratch built the whole front end, adding a 1/2" firewall. I wanted it stout up there as I had heard about the power of the DLE 20. Now with the engine inverted and a new cowl from Fibeglass specialties it looks much better and if it were not for the plug cap and wire, you could not hardly see the engine.
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vertical grimmace - cool handle.
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Thanks.


Here are some pics. This aircraft was started around 15 years ago. I got it fully framed up and then stopped building it. It survived a bunch of moves, and with the recent popularity of the warbird events in my area, I decided to finish it last year. It is time to add more details, now that I have it functioning well. The DLE was a perfect match for it and after doing some research, I do not think 11 lbs is bad at all. Some warbirds in this size are finishing out at 15-16lbs. I have Robart retracts and functioning struts.
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ORIGINAL: vertical grimmace

Thanks.


Here are some pics. This aircraft was started around 15 years ago. I got it fully framed up and then stopped building it. It survived a bunch of moves, and with the recent popularity of the warbird events in my area, I decided to finish it last year. It is time to add more details, now that I have it functioning well. The DLE was a perfect match for it and after doing some research, I do not think 11 lbs is bad at all. Some warbirds in this size are finishing out at 15-16lbs. I have Robart retracts and functioning struts.
Beautiful plane; nicely done!
-Mike

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Finally got around to flying my H9 Corsair today with the DLE 20 and all I have to say is what a blast! It flew perfectly and has a ton of power and great performance. I am running a 16x8 3-blade Master Airscew prop and it is sweet. Can't wait to get out there and do more flying with it.
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Finally got around to flying my H9 Corsair today with the DLE 20 and all I have to say is what a blast! It flew perfectly and has a ton of power and great performance. I am running a 16x8 3-blade Master Airscew prop and it is sweet. Can't wait to get out there and do more flying with it.
Congrats. I agree. It is so cool to just throw in some gas and go. These little engines are just great.
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I have three DLE 55's and I love these motors. I am getting rid of most of my Nitro stuff! lol
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Fellows with the warbirds, post pics, esp the H9 Corsair. Would love to see em.
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ORIGINAL: unclecrash

Wondering how the DLE 20cc would do in a CMP Focke Wulf 190 calls for a 90 to 108 2 stroke. With a 70in wing span. Don't know the weight but it seems like a pretty light layup. I believe it will fit in the cowl,at least I hope it would.
The 4.6kg weight on the CMP website seems to indicate about a 10lb model...that may be ok for sport flying, but not much more. I do know that many people are flying a 70'' Revolver with a DLE-20 and reporting great performance from that combination.
-Mike

Thats all im looking for is a nice running engine with sport or scale like flying at a low cost. And if it is working for verticle grimace at 10LB and some change. It will work for me Worse case senerio I have to sell it and get the 30.
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I would consider the performance on my aircraft much better than just sport. It really moves and I am also a pylon racer. So far I think it might be my fastest warbird.
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Sounds good as long as I can keep it lite I should be in good shape. here is a pic my friend just gave it to me
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ORIGINAL: WindGap

Fellows with the warbirds, post pics, esp the H9 Corsair. Would love to see em.
I've posted several pics of my P-51 in this thread (check the gallery above). Its a world models .60 sized blue nose P-51. I run an APC 15x10 prop and a Jtech compact Pitts muffler. I found that the compact Pitts is down about 300RPM from the stock muffler. A big round cowl and you could run the stock muffler or the standard Pitts muffler and probably get away with a 15x11. My plane doesn't like the 15x11 though.

A quick strafing run on mine.
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Without combing thru this whole thread, where can I obtain 2 or 3 carbon fiber motor mounts for my DLE 20s?? I could not even find them on the VV web site. I called Horizon as the mount out of the Pulse 125 fits perfect, but they are out till the end of AUG. HELP!!! Thanks Brian


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