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Old 02-25-2012 | 10:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: on_your_six

I would never use a long tapered prop reamer or any other for that matter. I use a drill press and the proper sized drill steel to match the engine's shaft size. I have the proper tool, so I use it... I have heard that drill presses can be used for other things too!

Maybe you could use a jack hammer to drive some finishing nails?


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This site is starting to ps me off. I type a post for 5 mins and add a photo and it gets timed out!!!! I'll try again.

Mustangman,

You need a reamer that has a very narrow taper. Just any reamer won't work. You will take off to much material. I got mine from my LHS. Here is their info and a pic of the one I have. It's made by ''ENKAY''. Flightline Hobbies, Lake Orion, Michigan Toll free....877-891-8359. John would be glad to ship you one.

on_your_six.......LMBO......this thread went from how to check prop tracking to how to make a hole bigger and not even needing to be centered.....[:-][:-]
i gave up several posts ago as you just cannot argue with "backyard" mechanics...........i beat them in competitions all the time though so they are required to be part of this hobby........
funny thing is, no one has posted the proper way to true up a prop................should we give in and explain it?.......nah.......the ol rasp file users will jump in and claim they know.
Old 02-25-2012 | 10:53 AM
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Bad tracking or blade balancing ?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technolo...224458312.html
Old 02-25-2012 | 11:48 AM
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Ground resonance. A 4 point oleo strut type of landing gear and a fully articulated rotor system. His only recourse would have to been take off once in it got into it that bad.They must have edited out the hard landing on one of the struts.
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on_your_six.......LMBO......this thread went from how to check prop tracking to how to make a hole bigger and not even needing to be centered.....[:-][:-]
i gave up several posts ago as you just cannot argue with ''backyard'' mechanics...........i beat them in competitions all the time though so they are required to be part of this hobby........
funny thing is, no one has posted the proper way to true up a prop................should we give in and explain it?.......nah.......the ol rasp file users will jump in and claim they know.
summerwind - no secrets here! What type of competitions did you participate in and yes, please explain the proper way to true up a prop. Good info is good info, no matter how many rasp filers there are around here.

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Old 02-25-2012 | 01:28 PM
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They must have edited out the hard landing on one of the struts.
Looks like the pilot just sat there and let it happen.

Even a small gust can induce ground resonance, or sometimes nothing at all, as depicted here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFLV47VAbI

This wasn't a 'ground resonance test gone wrong' despite the label, it was a run-out airframe at an Army maintenance depot, and someone had the idea to film the outcome for training. Full-scale heli pilots (may not include Brazilians) are cautioned against prolonged idling under power for just this reason.
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on_your_six.......LMBO......this thread went from how to check prop tracking to how to make a hole bigger and not even needing to be centered.....[:-][:-]
i gave up several posts ago as you just cannot argue with ''backyard'' mechanics...........i beat them in competitions all the time though so they are required to be part of this hobby........
funny thing is, no one has posted the proper way to true up a prop................should we give in and explain it?.......nah.......the ol rasp file users will jump in and claim they know.
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Summerwind,

Sounds like your just the guy to give us that information. Us old rasp filers would greatly appreciate the sharing of your knowledge.



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physics  boys..... balance and fly....
Old 03-02-2012 | 08:48 PM
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Here is APC props recommendation for prop reaming with a tapered reamer. Read the section titled "Engine shaft hole alignment".

http://www.apcprop.com/v/html/tech_s...html#holealign
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Thanks Tacx. Straight from APC. This settles this question.......
Old 03-03-2012 | 05:15 AM
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Mustangman,

Your welcome. I think throughout our discussion there was some confusion as to what we were trying to accomplish. Some of the other posters were providing input in regards to the trueness of the engine shaft and drive washer. That's another animal. We were discussing the tracking of the prop only.

As someone has mentioned, if you are checking the trueness of the drive washer you would have to use a testing bar that is known to be perfectly straight. I personally have never tried to check the trueness of a drive washer, but I guess it may be necessary if an engine were crashed?

Anyway, as for the prop itself I have used the tapered reamer for years and have been very happy with the results.
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Tacx,
Your method worked fantastically. I bought a tapered reamer ($7), put the new 3 blade master airscrew propeller on the fl70 and the tracking was perfect. I did the same with another 13X6 APC on my saito and the tracking was at 1/16", which I feel is acceptable.

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Glad to help. The sharing of info is a wonderful thing !!

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