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Old 06-22-2014, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by brakes940
I do agree that nitro is very expensive. Around here in NYC its about $ 21- 25 a gallon.
Engines can be set-up to run with very little nitro (5%), or nitro at all, by raising the compression ratio.
Small engines only need about 2oz for a 10 minute flight, so the cost of fuel is really not much to worry about...
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Originally Posted by brakes940
Since i've gotten into this hobby i've only flown electric. I would love to try a small nitro plane. But I fly at the local park and would be scared the cops would chase me away.
For cars, its nitro all the way. I could not see myself driving an electric rc.
The bad thing about batteries is that you are charging it for close to one hour for 8-10 mins of flyiing.
I do agree that nitro is very expensive. Around here in NYC its about $ 21- 25 a gallon.
Glow fuel is very expensive for all things RC - planes, cars, or boats. I run all three and at close to $40/gal retail, my big engines wouldn't get run much. Hell, nothing would get run much. I feel like a broken record, but mixing your own fuel can save you half your money, at least. A gallon of 30% car fuel costs me about $18 to make. I don't use 30% very often because I'm cheap. Regular aircraft fuel with 5% nitro is super cheap to make; about $6-8/gal.
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If I could buy nitro for $21-$25 a gallon, I'd be stocking up. That is the same as the price of a gallon of glow fuel..

Old 06-22-2014, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MJD
If I could buy nitro for $21-$25 a gallon, I'd be stocking up. That is the same as the price of a gallon of glow fuel..

I was gonna comment on that...... Decided not to.
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I get my 10% nitro fuel at the Toledo show for $13 a chintzy US gallon. Ritch's Brew, and there is another brand which escapes me right now. A .15 or .049 will go two years on this. Much more $ is spent driving to the field than on the plane fuel. For a choice of plane in a .15 size, there are some free plans available, and mostly any electric ARF that seems about right and uses a 2,000 mah battery is OK with a couple motor mount braces or mods.
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Originally Posted by aspeed
I get my 10% nitro fuel at the Toledo show for $13 a chintzy US gallon. Ritch's Brew, and there is another brand which escapes me right now. A .15 or .049 will go two years on this. Much more $ is spent driving to the field than on the plane fuel. For a choice of plane in a .15 size, there are some free plans available, and mostly any electric ARF that seems about right and uses a 2,000 mah battery is OK with a couple motor mount braces or mods.
Does your travel costs get factored into the cost of your fuel? I could drive to SIG and pickup whatever mix I want them to do but the cost to drive down there outweighs the shipping costs by a large margin and still yet shipping it would cost nearly $30/gal with shipping and hazmat fees. One of my hobby shops used to drive to SIG and load a pickup truck full of cases of fuel. Once gas hit $3/gal they quit doing it as it was no longer cost effective. When they were doing the run to Montezuma, they were bringing back some all castor fuel for the 1/2a and bushing guys. Now they won't order it at all. They wanted me to pre-pay for a 4-gallon case of quart bottles for $130+tax. I politely said 'no thanks'.
Old 06-22-2014, 08:59 AM
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Just yesterday I was running my Kraft 61 on 5% SIG Champion and it runs perfect.
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Glow will NEVER die.
It may not be the hottest item, but it will always be around.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:34 PM
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There are millions of glow engines out there. As long as there are modelers eager to experience all that this hobby has to offer, there will be people powering planes with glow engines. The motorheads among us are more often in the hobby for the long haul and are eager to invest the effort required to extract the performance and reliability that glow engines possess.

I still enjoy flying control line and single channel RC both of which were declared dead long long ago. Things change in the hobby but rarely does anything become extinct.

There is a relationship between the effort required to accomplish something and the satisfaction received when accomplished.

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Originally Posted by 049flyer

There is a relationship between the effort required to accomplish something and the satisfaction received when accomplished.
I really like this statement. I believe it to be quite true.
Old 06-22-2014, 03:43 PM
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I went to a swap meet in March. I picked up a new OS 15 LA and a used 25LA for a total of $40. I already have more than enough glow engines for my lifetime, but I keep buying more.
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Me too but I keep buying them too. Today I swapped out 2 two strokes for 4 strokes just to rotate my engines, and the OS46SF needs a new ring. I think the OS40Surpass is going to be awesome on the Dazzler.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:21 PM
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I'm sure the town horseshoe maker was laughing at the weirdo trying to sell his steam automobile
Uh, don't count steam out. The Navy still gets by somehow using it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimit...rcraft_carrier
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Originally Posted by eddieC
Uh, don't count steam out. The Navy still gets by somehow using it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimit...rcraft_carrier
Not to mention all of the power plants using steam.
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Ran 55% this weekends racing in Anderson california for warbird racing. Some guys ran 70% in their engines. Nitro is very expensive. mixing your own can be expensive also unless you know someone. Lots of rules to buy nitro.
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Originally Posted by airraptor
Ran 55% this weekends racing in Anderson california for warbird racing. Some guys ran 70% in their engines. Nitro is very expensive. mixing your own can be expensive also unless you know someone. Lots of rules to buy nitro.
$55/gal and free shipping online. Not too bad for small quantities IMO.
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Originally Posted by airraptor
Ran 55% this weekends racing in Anderson california for warbird racing. Some guys ran 70% in their engines. Nitro is very expensive. mixing your own can be expensive also unless you know someone. Lots of rules to buy nitro.
Rules? There are more rules for methanol and oil.
Old 06-23-2014, 12:14 PM
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maybe because I am in stupid Cali. I can only order one gallon at a time and its 38 dollars a gallon plus 45 dollars shipping.
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I am stuborn on glow too, I stick to the 40, 46 and 61 for the most part. I like the smell too and I enjoy the fact that it takes a little skill and finesse to keep them in good running form. I dont fly really big stuff and I dont want to either. A nice forty is a joy and you don't need a semi to take it to the field.
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Originally Posted by airraptor
maybe because I am in stupid Cali. I can only order one gallon at a time and its 38 dollars a gallon plus 45 dollars shipping.
Where are you ordering it from?
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Originally Posted by Aiden88
To be honest, my j3 cub will die with a glow engine bolted to her, as will my top flite mustang and 4star. All 4 strokes and all dependable.
The electrics in my stable are growing however.

I do see a change in RCU too. The numbers seem to be down or something. It just seems quieter on this site. Rcgroups and the electric talk is bang bang all day.


Hi Aiden88 forgive me for digressing a bit from the subject but curios about your avatar.

At first though I was thinking Spartan Executive but after looking closely at that little photo I am gonna change that guess to: Harlow???

John
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quick it was from VP
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Originally Posted by airraptor
quick it was from VP
Try Amazon. (Seriously).
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Another good ol boy here who will never give up on glow engines as long as there's a fighting chance. I've got some electric planes that I really enjoy flying, but they'll never replace my glow engines. And as long as there are still good ol boys around here racing things, I guess I'll always be able to get methanol and I'll run without the nitro if I have to. I'm a putt putt flyer, so I can tune or compress or whatever I've got to do to get them to run. Last case of Morgan fuel I bought was $15/gal at our yearly swap meet, and I fly from .049 to .60 so a case lasts me forever. As for parts, like many of you, I've got enough engines to last me quite a few years. And I'm more of a "horder" than a "collector", I don't really go in for the one of this and one of that.... when I find an engine I like, I tend to stay with that and just get more of them when I find good deals. I've got a ton of OS FX, LA & FP engines that I get great service out of. If I'd quit ramming them in the ground, I've probably got enough stuff to last me forever.
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Today I finished up my 4Star20 with an OS26Surpass, it should be interesting.
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