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02-25-2006 | 11:44 PM
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RE: Help!
Tim:
Going back and looking at the two pictures I included in post seven, the left one looks like he has the inlet cam gear on top, the center picture shows the exhaust cam gear on top. Both with the gears in front of the lobes.
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John:
If it comes to that, you can send me the engine, I'll degree the cams and get them as close as possible to the 20-60-60-20 they call for.
Or maybe Jim Oliver will take pity on all of us and take some pictures of his.
Bill.
Going back and looking at the two pictures I included in post seven, the left one looks like he has the inlet cam gear on top, the center picture shows the exhaust cam gear on top. Both with the gears in front of the lobes.
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John:
If it comes to that, you can send me the engine, I'll degree the cams and get them as close as possible to the 20-60-60-20 they call for.
Or maybe Jim Oliver will take pity on all of us and take some pictures of his.
Bill.
02-26-2006 | 12:04 AM
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Pattern, go ahead and do it right here this is interesting even though it is frustrating for JLK, Jim and I talked about this on the phone a couple of years ago. I got the cams flip flopped on my .46 MKII and it would run but 1,000 rpm lower than normal and it blew a lot of fuel out of the carb. Having the one gear in front of the other the right way matters but I could never figure out why.
02-26-2006 | 05:43 AM
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Tim,
Nice catch on the gears but...
It is like the drawing you posted.
I think Bill somehow "flipped" my photo while he was enhancing it.
I had to look twice and run out to the garage just now (it's 4:45AM!) to double check.
I'm off to the electric fly at the Unidome in Cedar Falls.
Be back late afternoon.
Thanks everyone!
JLK
Nice catch on the gears but...
It is like the drawing you posted.
I think Bill somehow "flipped" my photo while he was enhancing it.
I had to look twice and run out to the garage just now (it's 4:45AM!) to double check.
I'm off to the electric fly at the Unidome in Cedar Falls.
Be back late afternoon.
Thanks everyone!
JLK
02-26-2006 | 05:54 AM
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Pattern Student,
If you do take your engine apart be careful when you pull the cam box off the back of the engine.
You could pull the cams off with it (don't ask me how I know this [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]).
First take the thinner flat plate off the back.
Then you'll see 3 holes...2 on top one on the bottom.
The one on the bottom is the end of the cam drive coming thru from the crank.
The two on top are the cams themselves.
When you start to pull the box off take a small wooden dowel or wooden pencil point and keep pushing those two cam ends back into the box. This will keep them from coming off as you remove it.
Good luck!
JLK
If you do take your engine apart be careful when you pull the cam box off the back of the engine.
You could pull the cams off with it (don't ask me how I know this [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]).
First take the thinner flat plate off the back.
Then you'll see 3 holes...2 on top one on the bottom.
The one on the bottom is the end of the cam drive coming thru from the crank.
The two on top are the cams themselves.
When you start to pull the box off take a small wooden dowel or wooden pencil point and keep pushing those two cam ends back into the box. This will keep them from coming off as you remove it.
Good luck!
JLK
03-19-2006 | 12:25 AM
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Tim (and others):
The Enya is now here. There are two other model engines in line ahead of it, but if I can steal enough time from "Real" work I should get on it within a week or ten days. I'll post results of inspection, and what I do to make it run.
I will admit I did a quick teardown and inspection, John had the cams timed correctly. The only fault I found in the quick check was one valve keeper out of place, but that would not have kept it from running.
Bill.
The Enya is now here. There are two other model engines in line ahead of it, but if I can steal enough time from "Real" work I should get on it within a week or ten days. I'll post results of inspection, and what I do to make it run.
I will admit I did a quick teardown and inspection, John had the cams timed correctly. The only fault I found in the quick check was one valve keeper out of place, but that would not have kept it from running.
Bill.
03-19-2006 | 05:39 AM
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Bill,
It's the crumby pictures I posted.
Both cams are symmetrical and have nothing other than the normal surface "polishing" type wear.
The coarseness of the cam gear surfaces was exaggerated as well.
The M3 was one of my Dad's pride and joys.
He bought it in Germany in 1963.
Has the 35mm, 55mm and 125mm lenses as well.
I use only rarely.
Who know what's on the roll of film in it now!
I had a Pentax that I was always bragging about.
One Spring day when the azaleas were blooming in Texas he said "OK, get your camera and take the best picture you can and I'll do the same. We'll compare when they are developed."
Side by side there was no comparison. The lenses on that camera a really something!
JLK
Bill,
It's the crumby pictures I posted.
Both cams are symmetrical and have nothing other than the normal surface "polishing" type wear.
The coarseness of the cam gear surfaces was exaggerated as well.
The M3 was one of my Dad's pride and joys.
He bought it in Germany in 1963.
Has the 35mm, 55mm and 125mm lenses as well.
I use only rarely.
Who know what's on the roll of film in it now!
I had a Pentax that I was always bragging about.
One Spring day when the azaleas were blooming in Texas he said "OK, get your camera and take the best picture you can and I'll do the same. We'll compare when they are developed."
Side by side there was no comparison. The lenses on that camera a really something!
JLK
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Buy a Zeiss lens for your Pentax and watch the difference disappear.
03-19-2006 | 07:47 AM
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Tim,
Thanks for your continued interest in the Enya.
As Bill has mentioned I sent it to the Master...I just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't run.
I know he will.
Ed,
You're right about the Zeiss lense!
I also have my Dad's Carl Zeiss binoculars.
They are crisp and clear as well!
Thanks everyone!
JLK
Thanks for your continued interest in the Enya.
As Bill has mentioned I sent it to the Master...I just couldn't figure out why it wouldn't run.
I know he will.
Ed,
You're right about the Zeiss lense!
I also have my Dad's Carl Zeiss binoculars.
They are crisp and clear as well!
Thanks everyone!
JLK
