miltac

OK, so after thinking about it for a few days, I am going to remove the lower firewall (F-4B) and replace it with either 1/4 or 3/8 ply. If I just built up the current firewall and some how got the cg correct with that much weight that far off the nose then it wouldent fit in my car. as it sits right now it will just bearly fit on the back seat of my camry.

My plan is to recess the fire wall about an inch wich will keep the overall length the same. I will have to cover up the fwd fuel tank access and figure out a way to squeeze a tank in from the back. Im thinking a 10-12 oz tank should be good for a 8-10 min flight.

It will take me a day or two before I can cut the firewall off so if anyone has some tips or advise im all ears.


Wish me luck!
Thanks,
Miltac

Jim Henley

Miltac, be sure to check back in the thread, there is information on making the changes for a rear loading tank, along with other modifications.

Dash7ATP

Just don't use a chain saw!

I'm using the OSGemini for power and will be installing my tank, a whopping 22 Oz from the rear. I'm making my servo mount removable so Ican access the tank and battery compartment.. Not a problem!

Joe

rccrasher65

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   Gents, I'm placing my Pica 1/6 scale YMF.3 up for sale. If any are interested, just PM me or email. [email protected]  Kit is in pristine condition. Thanks George

Stickbuilder

Why are you selling this nice little Waco?

Bill Waco Brother #1

damifino

Hey gentlemen, just stopped in to say hello!

rccrasher65

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Well Bill, The boss say's the hanger is getting too big, I have to agree with that. I'm already building the 1/5 scale, so I didn't want a beautiful kit going to sit in a closet for years, so best thing to do is find it another home. Thanks for asking, George

Stickbuilder

Hi Jay welcome back

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miltac

Well, no turning back now.

F4 came out easier than expected, I used a jigsaw and cut on all the glue lines. I just need to cut another firewall as the one I cut doesn't fit all that well. I will cut off the back of the fuel tank box and install the fuel tank from the front, Im not going to cut any of the formers to be able to remove it from the rear as I think it can wait untill I need to remove the tank.

thanks for all the advise

Miltac

rccrasher65

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Miltac, looks like a sucessful surgery to me. Nice job.

dadrivet

thought i'd better make a progress report,i decided to clear the decks so i can give this all of my attention and can't wait to get started.but in the mean time things are starting to come together i think i have found a laser 150 four stroke which should fit in the cowl with very minor adjustment crank centre to rocker cover is only 3 7/8 so should be good to go.also i have been given a robbo cutter that a friend could not get used to so can now cut my own vinyl. ok time for more reading i feel like johnny five "input input input"

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Stickbuilder

No comments on the Cessna???????

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Dash7ATP

I thought the nose looked too long.......... Didn't the cowl stop just slightly ahead of the windshield?

Joe

skylarkmk1

OK Bill,

Some comments,

Glad you made it back safely, get some rest.

As Dash said, the nose IS too long (looks like the section between the cockpit and cowl has been extended).

The same section is too small in diameter

The cowl may also be too long and or too large in diameter.

Otherwise it looks pretty good.

P1 - Picture of N 9854A taken from a similar angle (it has similar colors)
P2 - Side view of N 9854A (emphasizes the long tail/short nose)

So - more importantly, How is Dick doing?

Stickbuilder

I think it is an angle issue with the photo. I'll post one from a different perspective. Can't load photos right now. Kahn, I'll text some to you.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

mrdhud

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Bill,

I don’t know if the nose is to long or short I just think it looks good. Look forward seeing it fly in Florida.

WOW page 600

Stickbuilder

Okay, here are a few more with a different angle on the bow (nose).

Bill, Waco Brother #1

georgewaldrop

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Bill,

That is one nice Cessna!

Dash7ATP

Bill,

It does look much "mo better" from this angle. If anything , comparing it to the full size plane shown above, the cowl my look a little small. Probably the angle again.

See you have a three banger in it. Who's kit or ARF is this? How large? I always like the 195, but Iknew someone who was killed in one when a wing failed in heavy weather! Maybe a strut whould have helped them?

Joe

Stickbuilder

Not a kit or Arf. Built by Dick Watz from Wendell Hostleter plans. Quarter scale. It is a very large airplane. A wing failure in heavy weather would suggest some serious G load. This cantilever wing was very very strong. Maybe some big negative G numbers...

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Dash7ATP

Ithink the accident report indicated they were in a thunderstorm when the accident occured. Been there, done that! Not fun. My radar controller said no thundestorms observed, and about that time all hell broke loose. Before we came out the other side, I had oil covering the left wing of the Baron Iwas flying. That was early in my career. Imade a point to avoid them at all costs. I was already aware of the 195 crash.

Joe

skylarkmk1

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skylarkmk1

Bill,

Dick did a very nice job on the 195. Enjoy it. Here are a few more pics from the full size. These shots show the nose to be correct and not distorted by the angle of the camera.

P1 - N 9854A
P2 - N 9833A (it was under it's annual inspection and I was able to use the ladder for this over the nose shot.
P3 - N 9854A

miltac

It's coming along better than expected,

recessing the firewall an inch worked out perfect for keeping the length the same. I installed a 12 oz tank from the front, I cut out the back of the fuel tank box but I am going to wait on making the mods needed to remove the tank until a need arises or I find the time.

I still need to check the CG, fix the covering around the cowl, and get a proper prop before I send it skywards.