Stickbuilder

Dave,

That has to be one of the most difficult things that one will ever have to do. My and Janelle's hearts go out to you.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

WacoNut

Dave,
My heart goes out to you, that had to be tough. My wife went thru a battle with cancer last year. She is in full remission and I am thankful. I can't imagine how rough it would be.
Anthony

acerc

Dave, my sincerest condolences. My grandmother had intestinal cancer at 40, they took most of them out. Somehow she managed to live to 72.
My other grandmother got lung cancer. She found out to late, it took a year and a half for it to be over. My sister found out she had a tumor in her brain during a pregnacy. She chose the baby over treatment. I still have personal belonging's from all of them and probably alway's will. I'm not comparing them to a wife, for that I can't imagine, just the cancer part.
Once again, My sincerest condolences!

aminiet

Well, I was going to up load some pictures of the progress on the fat Cuban but it failed to up load. sorry, will try later

mogman

Thank you for the kind words, gentlemen. Now that the job is done, it's like a weight lifted from me. Having many close friends up here, (and all my new friends in the Brotherhood) has helped immensly. There has always been someone to help lift my spirits.

Dave,
W/B #180

LesUyeda

mogman

You have my sincere sympathies. I am fortunate, in that my wife is a cancer survivor. After 47 years with her, I cannot imagine the emptiness that would be there without her.

Les

Stickbuilder

Several have completed their assembly of the Great Planes ARF. They are reporting good maiden flights with their models. I don't know how to feel about this airplane, other than to welcome any Waco of any type.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Stickbuilder

Note to Dan Hudson. I'll be seeing you in a couple of weeks. I hope Lakeland is ready for us, and that the weather cooperates with us and does not bite us as it did Sun N Fun.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Stickbuilder

Mitch Wants me to remind everyone to send him either a private message, or snail mail, or email for your wishes concerning Tee shirts. Mitch and I will be meeting in Lakeland for Top Gun and will make the decision regarding the color and possible design changes for the new shirts. So please don't expect him to be able to pull the requests from this thread for your shirts. Thanks for understanding.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Stickbuilder

Okay, Here is the roster to date.

WACO BROTHERHOOD MEMBERSHIP:

#1 stickbuilder
#2 Hughes500
#3 Jim Henley
#4 mmattockx
#5 CTflyboy
#6 michaelj2k
#7 Ronj10
#8 gwulle
#9 jim schroer
#10 Skinny Bob
#11 Doug
#12 Pimmnz
#13 HarryJ
No. 14 Old Git
#15 ChrisMH
#16 Nerevar
#17 Ricatic
#18 Clay H.
#19 Tripp2Loo
#20 KHodges
#21 Bill Hogue (WACO One)
#22 Mangolo (Waldo)
#23 av8ter
#24 yel914 (Rick)
#25 damifino
#26 skylarkmk1
#27 Jacque
#28 Edwin
#29 AROPLANE
#30 WacoNut (Anthony)
#31 BQuartucy (Bob Q)
#32 AERORON
#33 funkymusic
#34 Live Wire (Larry)
#35 obo (Bob)
#36 Jackk36 (Jack)
#37 fatherrooster (Jim)
#38 Ilikebipes
#39 Kestrel0222
#40 CROWMAN17 (Marc)
#41 redcesar
#42 S. Christensen (Scott)
#43 Bill Deidrich
#44 Mike Barbee
#45 mrdhud (Dan Hudson)
#46 SoCalSal
#47 Todd (NightStalker)
#48 argon (Bob Gonzalez)
#49 mango 12 (Scott)
#50 skyjet 1
#51 ZIG
#52 Didg
#53 MarvinE255 (DOC)
#54 Joe Norris (Full Scale WACO Pilot)
#55 vasek
#56 SuperCub Man (Jim)
#57 Black Drape (Ron)
#58 aminiet (Angel Minet)
#59 Snowball
#60 doc zinger
#61 jagnweiner (Scott)
#62 Meesh (Bob)
#63 BigBoy99 (Bernie)
#64 stifts (Steve)
#65 RCWalker (Wallace)
#66 Mobyal
#67 lazyace
#68 bladerunner1955 (Don)
#69 trlambsr
#70 Big Bird (Ken)
#71 Tony V (Tony)
#72 red 1
#73 412t1 (Sean)
#74 Mr Lucky (Ben Warner)
#75 RICKSTUBBZ (Rick Stubblefield)
#76 ffdg (Fred)
#77 tomcraig
#78 Michou41a Michel
#79 Watzscale (Dick Watz)
#80 Devens
#81 msilvestro (Mark)
#82 Cheechukranch (Lewis)
#83 kruzin55 (Chris)
#84 lynchr (Ron)
#85 airplanegeek
#86 TexasSkyPilot
#87 Garthwood (Charles)
#88 RCBOATMANIAC (Dave)
#89 Thomas B
#90 George Werber
#91 frequent flyer (Don)
#92 adamiani Alex
#93 Kvlasblom
#94 geertdewit (Geert)
#95 Wobble Wing (Bud Halverson)
#96 Joe Gulik
#97 T.L.A.R.eng
#98 kurrikan
#99 Nathan King
#100 nine o nine (Mitch Epstein)
#101 dsquire (Don)
#102 Mr. WACO (Charlie Nelson)
#103 Ken Acosta
#104 denoferth (Dennis)
#105 germrb (Bob Germaine)
#106 J.D. Ramsay
#107 ccrebidoux (Chris)
#108 LarryN (Larry)
#109 X3heimmr (Marty Heim)
#110 Lou Melancon
#111 BEARMX (Barry Waters)
#112 Sir Crashalot (Bob J)
#113 RPSBLS (Bob)
#114 Squeakalong (No name given)
#115 Uminchu (Dave)
#116 Avaiojet (Charles)
#117 Mud Duck (Shaun)
#118 XTRA230 (Rob)
#119 3drc tim
#120 Cubman
#121 Ekim (Mike)
#122 tom czenthe (Mr. Tom)
#123 curt switzer (Mr. Curt)
#124 bbogart (Bruce)
#125 skypup50
#126 RCplanman
#127 froghair1
#128 lrayj (Lonnie)
#129 codiddley
#130 king arthur 1953 (Ron)
#131 sdstick06 (Shawn)
#132 hopkimf (Michael Hopkins)
#133 Cricklewood (Chris Kerrigan)
#134 montiu
#135 carbunkle
#136 Wolfinwisc
#137 mamoose124 (Mike)
#138 pbunster (Paul)
#139 Paul of the North (Paul)
#140 eagledancer (Todd Bixby)
#141 Cottco RC
#142 Neil K (Neil Kilchriste)
#143 Aerowoof
#144 Phlip (Phil Duncan)
#145 flyinjay (Mark)
#146 Cursor (Rick Allison)
#147 Teus
#148 Steve Percifield
#149 rootsgroup
#150 johnboy151A (John Shrick)
#151 georgewaldrop (George Waldrop)
#152 rkflyingboats (Bob)
#153 reyn3545 (Mike Reynolds)
#154 PanHeadAndy
#155 Amscat (Andy)
#156 Skipb (Skip)
#157 Dirtydingus (Jim)
#158 cdbarker (Carl Barker)
#159 TJDNC (Thomas Dugan)
#160 Gunner3 (Bob Faetsch)
#161 fishinchickens (Neil Abbot)
#162 pittsdriver (Don)
#163 rc wings (Marko)
#164 greybeardaviation
#165 tokpilot
#166 davivgeorge212 (David G)
#167 lanny haff
#168 Dick Pettit
#169 abergmann
#170 FMBB Peter Barth
#171 Redbiscuits (Gary)
#172 ross felix
#173 biplano (Oscar Aitken)
#174 RBACONS
#175 flightstick (Gary)
#176 Mark Wolf
#177 paulemv (Paul T. VanDenburgh)
#178 scubajohn
#179 jerry325i (Jerry)
#180 mogman (Dave)
#181 DRCRAIG (Craig
#182 JRM23 (John)
#183 jn4dflyer (Larry)
#184 acerc (Robert)
#185 Jstephen1h
#186 MormonMike
#187 Skillet92
#188 MinnFlyer (Mike B.)
#189 cocobear (Dave Johnson)
#190 AncientCityFlyer (Mike)
#191 Cannonball200 (Eddie)
#192 Bkyrdflyer (Jeff R)
#193 althepal88
#194 oppie
#195 kim seyler
#196 ceije
#197 Airboss 45
#198 lablover
#199 ZebraOne

#200 GEORGE QUINN (posthumous Brother)

#201 Tmac48
#202 wreck-em-rich (Richard)
#203 cherry629


#210 Claude McCullough (posthumous Brother)
WACO Sisterhood Roster:

S-1 Janelle (Lady Stickbuilder)
S-2 Sissy Nightstalker
S-3 Barb Barbee
S-4 LadyMango (Lynda)
S-5 BUMBLE GEE BEE (Gabi)
S-6 Sue Watz
S-7 Joanie Allison (Lady Cursor)
S-8 Lady RCBOATMANIAC (Christine)

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1

Stickbuilder

WOW !!!!! 500 PAGES!!!

That is a real milestone. Thanks to all who made it happen.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

bhall01

My Feedback: (4)

Question for all you Waco fans out there Irecentlyreceived [most] of a Barth 1/4 scale YMF-5 kit (still awaiting the fiberglass parts and wingtubes... hope to see them by the end of next week...). Question is regarding balance - trying to decide on an engine for my Waco and wondering what any of you out there that may have built the kit had for "CGresults" what engine are you running, and how did it balance (right on, nose weight needed, tail weight needed.....).Curious about overall weight as well.

Only recall seeing one post that specifically mentioned the balance - seems like one fellow used a Zenoah G-62 and ended up adding 18oz of weight to the tail. Seems odd for a bipe, but okay!

Choices I'm looking at at the moment - Saito 300 twin 4C glow, Saito 57cc twin 4Cgas, soon-to-be-released Evolution 77cc 7-cylinder radial 4C (saw at Toledo, Ibelieve these are basically former Seidel designs going to be made in India for Horizon?). Lightest of the bunch is the 300 glow... plus Ialready own it (big plus!). Just not sure that the glow engines will smoke all that well, haven't had good success in the past versus a gas engine. That would lean me toward the 57cc gasser.... but it is a pound heavier than the glow engine. If Ineed nose-weight no problem. If it tends to come out nose-heavy, then lighter would be better. But a 7-cylinder radial would be awesome, even if it is glow and might not smoke so well..... but it's the heaviest of the three! Don't mean to ramble, just appreciate any feedback you may have on engine choices and resultant weight needed for balace on the Barth 1/4 scaler.

Oh - long time Waco fan - had a 1/6'th scale Pica YMFfor about 13 years before someone talked me out of it. Still have a NIBkit for the Pica 1/5th scale that I've been sitting on for about 10 years, but decided to hold off on that one in lieu of the 1/4 scale. Oh- and built the Dumas walnut scale stick &tissueWaco for indoor R/CusingParkzone Sukhoi gear this pastWinter.

Thanks for any info you can provide!!

Barry Hall

mrdhud

My Feedback: (48)

Bill

I’m looking forward seeing you at Top Gun in a few weeks.
Five hundred pages and over 12,000 posts is quite a thing. With over 200 members that has to say something about the Waco and the men & women that build them. This year will be four years since we’ve met and you’ve been a good friend. With all the pictures I have this has to be my favorite.

cannonball200

My Feedback: (36)

Dan;
I'm jealous of the t-shirts!!!!! Oh, I like the Waco's also..........


Maybe soon,
Thanks,

Stickbuilder

Dan,

Yep, that is one of my favorites too. I miss my front yard in Florida. Well, across the street anyway.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

pimmnz

bhall01, can't help with specific Barth info, but I have been flying a 25% UPF now for 10 years. Basic info, if it will help, 90" span, AUW 16lb, ST G2023 (2300?), 19x8 Bolly gf prop. Balances at 22% MAC without ballast, but with the 1100 nicad just behind the firewall. Carries a small video camera these days which I swap out for the pilot when flying scale comps. The only mod which I recommend to other G2023 users is to replace the carb with the equivalent Jett version, I have had no engine failures while this carb has been installed on this engine. Can't say better than that. Airframe-wise, do modify the U/C so that the oleo action actually works, coupled with nice squashy, soft wheels it will save the structure, and make all your landings look really good.
Evan, WB #12.

aminiet

no luck posting pictures

FMBB

Hi bhall01,

we normally recommend to install a Laser 300 or 360, so the Saito you may use will make a good fit. With such an engine the model will normally not need any weight for balancing. Of course if you will add some reinforcements which is not necessary at all you will have to consider this for the CG. But be assured even if you will use a heavier engine the model is not to suseptical. You can easily achieve the CG by moving Servos and battery.

Glass fiber parts are on their way and should arrive depending on the forwarder.

Have fun
Peter

nine o nine

My Feedback: (1)

Thanks for posting the Teeshirt reminder Bill but the requests MUST be snail mail to Mitch Epstein 651 N. Main St Leominster, MA. Thanks, Mitch

chuck l

My Feedback: (17)

Barry,

It was me who had the G62 and the 18oz of tail weight and that is with electronic ignition on the engine. The plane flew well so the cg was ok. You might want to consider a DLE-55 which has just a little less power than the G62, but weighs quite a bit less.

"Only recall seeing one post that specifically mentioned the balance - seems like one fellow used a Zenoah G-62 and ended up adding 18oz of weight to the tail. Seems odd for a bipe, but okay! "

Chuck

cherry629

My Feedback: (29)

Hey Guy's,Soon to be a Brotherhood member,Have a Berkley Cabin Waco kit,old control line,free flight or radio control,1 1/2 scale,
52" wingspan,cowl is busted up in shipment,have a old Saito 45 that should work on it,the wood looks great,think I can get a cowl
from Fiberglass Specalist,A couple weeks ago I scored on my Holy Grail of kits,A Pica 1/6 scale WACO YMF3 kit,60"wingspan,I got a
couple things to finish up before I can get one on the buildn table,covering a Cub kit I built for my buddy,an get the covering on my
ACE RC 4-120 bipe,got to do some reserch on here 500 pages will take awile LOL Thanks Les

LesUyeda

"1 1/2 scale,"

I think that would be 1 1/2 inches to the foot, which would make it 1/8 scale.

Les

SuperCub Man

Getting close to the end in my Waco ARE build. But I have a little problem in how to create the strut cuffs or fairings on the removable wing struts. Here is how it is shown on the plans and on the full size. I'd appreciate any thoughts, opinions or methods for accomplishing this.
Thanks

FMBB

To All,

Sorry not a Waco question

hi brothers I have a problem with three view dwgs.. We eventually want to build a Great Lakes special. Currently we have three views from Harold Krier's ship but the struts are uncommon to "normal" Great Lake designs. Normally they have N-struts. As Krier's version is a radial which is perfect we would also like to built the boxer engine version. To enable both version in one kit we are in need to have the dwg. information for the boxer version as well. Unfortunately I have not found any usable dwgs. for the boxer version. The only address seems to be Steen Aero lab.. The are offering a lot of Great Lakes dwgs. but no information what's on the sheets (e.g. radial-, boxer- or in line version). Does any one of you know where I could get hold of a boxer version dwg set 3 view or even more views with section details would be nice.

Thanks for your support in advance.

Peter Waco brother #170

skylarkmk1

It is closer to 1/7th Scale, 360" (Full size in inches) / 52" = 6.92.