From FP to CP
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Ihave a small hobby shop and have been racing RC off-road and on-road for about 5 years now. More recently Istarted flying heli's for somthing to do in the shop to gather intrest from people walking by the windows, and to kill time durring my normally slow hours. I've been flying FP heli's for a bit now and am thinking about going to a larger scale outdoor heli to play with at home. I'm thinking the Heli-max Axe 400 CP RxR But I'm having doubts about my ability to learn the differences between the CPand the FPheli's. So Ihave 2 questions.
Does anybody know of a larger outdoor sized FP heli?
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Is there somewhere Ican go to read about CPheli's, what the differences are between CPand FP, and the way changing the pitch works and what it does.
Ijust dont want to accidentally flip the wrong switch and send my copter straight to the ground and look like a complete newb in front of my neighbors
Does anybody know of a larger outdoor sized FP heli?
and
Is there somewhere Ican go to read about CPheli's, what the differences are between CPand FP, and the way changing the pitch works and what it does.
Ijust dont want to accidentally flip the wrong switch and send my copter straight to the ground and look like a complete newb in front of my neighbors
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I can vouch for the Axe 400.<div>
</div><div>I can't think of any specific forum threads of the top of my head, but you can check out this video:</div><div>
</div>"How RC Helicopters Work: Fixed Pitch and Collective Pitch"
<span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5iG299hzk&feature=youtube_gdata_play er</span><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">It's a quick overview of the mechanical differences between the two types.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Different controls may vary by transmitter, but generally, idle-up is on the left switch, and throttle hold is on the right switch. One major difference in flight characteristics I've noticed is that, in forward flight, with FP helis, I have to hold down the direction I want to pitch in; with CP helis, they tend to hold their attitude, so holding the direction for too long would have you wind up in a funky loop or faceplant. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 25px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 25px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Another thing is responsiveness. CP helis are pretty agile, so be ready for that. A nice thing about some radios is that you can adjust the responsiveness. The Axe 400 comes with the Futaba 6EX which allows you to do that.</span></div>
</div><div>I can't think of any specific forum threads of the top of my head, but you can check out this video:</div><div>
</div>"How RC Helicopters Work: Fixed Pitch and Collective Pitch"
<span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5iG299hzk&feature=youtube_gdata_play er</span><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">It's a quick overview of the mechanical differences between the two types.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 17px; font-family: Helvetica; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Different controls may vary by transmitter, but generally, idle-up is on the left switch, and throttle hold is on the right switch. One major difference in flight characteristics I've noticed is that, in forward flight, with FP helis, I have to hold down the direction I want to pitch in; with CP helis, they tend to hold their attitude, so holding the direction for too long would have you wind up in a funky loop or faceplant. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 25px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">
</span></div><div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 25px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Another thing is responsiveness. CP helis are pretty agile, so be ready for that. A nice thing about some radios is that you can adjust the responsiveness. The Axe 400 comes with the Futaba 6EX which allows you to do that.</span></div>
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Iwas actually thinking that Iwould get the ARF so Ican continue using Airtronics radios like Ialways have.. Idont really like the 6EX.. if Iwent futaba Iwas thinking the cheaper 6JH even though it would end up being a little more expensive than just getting the RTF
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From: Lawrence,
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Sorry for the formatting discrepancies in my previous post; I wrote it on my phone, and I guess that came out weirdly.
I talked about the 6EX because it's what I have, but any comparable or better radio will do the trick. Going with what you like and are comfortable with is also a plus. As long as you have a radio that allows you to adjust dead zones and servo extension limits as well as servo rates, then you should be fine. I started learning heli flight with a CP heli that did not have those features (axe CP - RTF), and that turned out to be very very costly (but fun
). Given that you already know how to fly helis, you may not need most of those features to adjust to CP helis. I would think that the transition from FP to CP shouldn't be too difficult.
I don't know if you use a flight sim or, if you do, which one, but checking out a few CP helis on a sim may be helpful in giving you a basic understanding of the differences in flight characteristics between the two types.
I talked about the 6EX because it's what I have, but any comparable or better radio will do the trick. Going with what you like and are comfortable with is also a plus. As long as you have a radio that allows you to adjust dead zones and servo extension limits as well as servo rates, then you should be fine. I started learning heli flight with a CP heli that did not have those features (axe CP - RTF), and that turned out to be very very costly (but fun
). Given that you already know how to fly helis, you may not need most of those features to adjust to CP helis. I would think that the transition from FP to CP shouldn't be too difficult. I don't know if you use a flight sim or, if you do, which one, but checking out a few CP helis on a sim may be helpful in giving you a basic understanding of the differences in flight characteristics between the two types.



