which is a good kit for imac type flying. I want to build the kit, not arf. im leaning towards a sukio or a biplane. anyone have any reccomendations? i dont want the ws to get over 100inches, or 80 for a bipe.

thanks

im no expert but if i had to choose probly the carl goldberg ultimate, why? reason one goldberg has been designing planes for along time, 2 its a sweet flying airplane if built correctly.....figured i would add my 2 cents

What ever brand you choose, get an EXTRA...

i want the cg ultimate, however im pretty sure it isnt imac legal. and im going to go look into the extra's out there, any better then some>?

thanks

Darren Bowman had a a 30 and 35% all wood Ultimate kit...

I have one of the 30% kits that I have never got around to building. I have a friend that built and flew one of the 30% kits and it flies great...

The CG Ultimate is IMAC legal. It is also a very fun airplane to fly. It was my first IMAC plane. After having it for a couple of years, though, I decided to get rid of it and move into gas. There are times when I wish I still had that plane, though. It was a hoot!

Ken

ok, ill look into the cg more then, cause i never read anything sating it was.

how does the lanier ultimate fly? anyone ever try one>?

im also going to look up that darren bowman plane

thanks all

whats everyones opinions on the g&l kits for imac flying? the lack of wood bothers me.

If you are looking for outstanding kit that will also result in an outstanding flying airplane, which after all is what IMAC is all about, then you almost certainly can't go wrong with one of the Columbo-Andersson Extra's. (Go to www.Planesplus.com) The Extra design is without doubt the best flying IMAC aircraft out there for the average pilot.
Remember that if you are looking to actually fly in competition with this airplane, then you should choose your airplane on the basis of its flying characteristics, not it's aesthetic looks.

i cant find any kits, only arfs,

dude........check this out. If you want an excellent IMAC plane and 100 inches or so is what you expect to get then there is no other choice but the Composite Arf 2.6 meter Extra. You can get one for around $1000 and there is no building to do. It is a fiberglass composite "shell" with carbon fiber reinforcement......if you hang a ZDZ80 on there you could come in under 22lbs depending on the equipment you use.

the website is www.composite-arf.com

the NE regional rep has one of the Jason Schulman shemes for sale right now for 20% off due to a couple of really small imperfections. If you would like that plane let me know and I can have him get in touch with you.

either way, like I said, in 1/3 or so scale size, it is the only choice dude!

I know it isn't a kit which is what you are asking about.......if you really want a good kit I suggest www.aerotech-rcmodels.com or maybe an Aeroworks kit, they are nice.


Brad

I wasn't aware that Aeroworks made a "KIT" anymore. Seems they have gone to ARFs; just like everyone else.

I hope like heck that the Midwest Extra 300S is a good Imac plane. I have about 4 or 5 months of sweat and elbow grease into one. Not to mention the $1500 or so that I've spent on the thing so far. Most people seem to think its a decent flyer for a first gasser over 25%.

There are a few NIB kits of the MW 300S here in the for sale forums. If my wife would let me spend another $400-- I'd have another Extra and an 80" MW Cap 232.

I'd probably go pretty extreme with the weight savings tricks in the Midwest planes; if I built another one. There's a lot of unnessecary plywood in the fuselage. You could discard a bunch of it and just use balsa longerons for the tops and bottoms of the fuselage sides. Also the turtledeck and hatch could be sheeted with 1/6" balsa instead of plywood skins. I'd keep the engine box strong and use extra triangle stock in there- expecially if you plan to use a gasser.

All in all; a pretty easy plane to build. Lots of the typical sanding and stuff you run into when building a kit- but nothing really bad about the kit.

thanks for the reply's, ive learnt a lot these past few days

Checked out PlanePlus web site, both kits and ARF's are right there. Just click on the CA logo.

Hi,
Like many have stated on here already. Nothing flies like an Extra if you want to have a clean flying precision flying, grooving plane. There are many good ones out there. Some of the ones I favor are the RadioCraft's, Comp-Arf's, and the Carden's. I have a RadioCraft 35% Extra, and they will be starting up production of these planes again. That plane has to be the best damn flying plane I have ever flown. It does every maneuver in the book with STYLE. Not just precise, but with a look to it like no other plane I have seen. My next choice would have to be the Comp-Arf's...that is also an outstanding plane, and it is a quality airplane. If you can swing a couple hundred extra go with the bigger airplanes, they really do fly better. That's not slamming smaller planes, it's just that aerodynamically they fly more like a real one, and go where you want them to, when you want them to. After flying these planes for awhile, I can't imagine anything that flies better than these 100 sized scale aerobatic Extras, except for a 40%. When you are flying competition, you want something that won't work ya to death to get it to do what you want. These larger Extras do that. Built straight, they are predictable, they are easier to trim, and the larger gassers don't give as much trouble as far as maintenance. I was into pattern before, and those planes like to nickle and dimed me to death on parts, and constantly fixing stuff. I've done pretty well in competition with my Extra, and some of that has to do with the fact that the airplane does what I tell it. Now, that doesn't mean it will do it for me, but when I am flying the airplane and paying attention, and am having a good day, that airplane shows that in flight. It's just a great honest flying airplane that does all maneuvers very well. It stalls cleanly in snaps, and spins. It tracks well. It does looping maneuvers well, and also rolls beautifully in both point rolls and slow rolls. Nice axial rolls. It also does 3d pretty well too...it's not quite the hoverer that an edge is, but it stalls better in snaps and spins. Maybe some of this will help you.

thanks for the great reply. I think i have picked my plane to build, the extra 330l from aerotech. the main reason for picking is that it looks more 3d able then the others, any opinions on this model?

thanks.

all I can say is this guy makes his kits as light as they could possibly be made and he DOES keep 3D in mind and they will 3D with no modifications. If you want to build a kit, this is a great choice........plus, he is a very customer oriented guy and getting in contact with him is not a problem.

good choice dude

Brad

right on, thats what i want to hear!, thanks for the info, ill give him a ring on monday.

Just for what it is worth, the CA kits are awesome. Disributed by Planes Plus the Extra300L comes in 24, 27,31 and 37%. The kits are very reasonable and are of excellent quality. I have the 24% with a G-23 on the front and it performs flawlessly. Precision and 3D at it's best!!!!!!!!!!! Go to Planes Plus.com for info. You will not be disappointed...



Gary

I wouldn't go to Planes Plus for anything, not when you can get all the service straight from Composite Arf......Andreas and Don had a little disagreement and due to this I'm sure whatever planes you find at Planes Plus will be "seconds" anyways. If you want a Composite Arf, go to www.composite-arf.com and get one there or contact a local representative. If anyone needs to find a rep, shoot me an email and I will get you hooked up.

Brad

CA = Columbo Anderson.

what do you guys think of the great planes 1/3 extra, or lanier? these are much more available to me.

I can say I would not recommend the Great Planes Extra a flying buddy has one and I have flown it I do not like the way it flies and he does not either. It also comes out heavy for the size of the plane unless you take steps to lighten it during building. I can not comment on the Lanier I have no experience with it. I would recommend the Columbo Anderson Extra check out www.planesplus.com for sizes and pricing they have kits and arcs.

If you want a kit try the midwest 27% Extra 300. I'm flying one in IMAC and have done well with it. For a power plant try a zdz 40 with an 18x10 or 20x10 prop depending on your tastes. The pic in my to the left under my username is the airplane

Is there any reason why an Edge 540T wouldn't make a good IMAC plane? I'm considering building either the Mike Hurley Extra 300S or a Carden 35% Edge 540T. I am most interested in 3D but would like to compete in IMAC as well. Any advice?