2006 Advanced Sequence Question
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Hello to all, I have a Q on 2006 Advanced Sequence, #7.
If I'm reading it correctly, it's actually a Cross-box maneuver, and the pilot gets to decide whether to pull at the top either toward himself or away, depending on which way that quarter roll is done. So you're going to end up not on the same line from which you began.
So if this is the case, it seems to me like you need to be flying the rest of the sequence with this in mind---knowing you're going to be bringing the plane closer or farther away laterally in #7. So won't that mean that either the first 6 maneuvers are going to be spaced either too close or too far away, or the last three are? I can't remember---is it OK to readjust your line back in or out for the next maneuvers? I'm thinking it's probably not.
I appreciate any thoughts on the subject. I've been away from IMAC for 8 years and I'm trying hard to pick up where I left off. I've practiced some every year, just not entered any contests.
Thanks!
If I'm reading it correctly, it's actually a Cross-box maneuver, and the pilot gets to decide whether to pull at the top either toward himself or away, depending on which way that quarter roll is done. So you're going to end up not on the same line from which you began.
So if this is the case, it seems to me like you need to be flying the rest of the sequence with this in mind---knowing you're going to be bringing the plane closer or farther away laterally in #7. So won't that mean that either the first 6 maneuvers are going to be spaced either too close or too far away, or the last three are? I can't remember---is it OK to readjust your line back in or out for the next maneuvers? I'm thinking it's probably not.
I appreciate any thoughts on the subject. I've been away from IMAC for 8 years and I'm trying hard to pick up where I left off. I've practiced some every year, just not entered any contests.
Thanks!
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Hi,
I have also been flying the Advanced sequence this year.
I originally started by flying the humpty-bump out, but I found that this made the gold fish (and all remaining manuervers) much more difficult to do as they was so far away from the flight line.
I now position the spin so that it is a little farther out, and fly the humpty-bump back in towards me.
It is not very good to re-adjust the line in/out inbetween manuevers, this should be done as little as possible, but may not be able to be avoided.
Good luck with this and any competitions that you go to this year.
-- Kevod
I have also been flying the Advanced sequence this year.
I originally started by flying the humpty-bump out, but I found that this made the gold fish (and all remaining manuervers) much more difficult to do as they was so far away from the flight line.
I now position the spin so that it is a little farther out, and fly the humpty-bump back in towards me.
It is not very good to re-adjust the line in/out inbetween manuevers, this should be done as little as possible, but may not be able to be avoided.
Good luck with this and any competitions that you go to this year.
-- Kevod
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I am doing it the same as Kevod as well but if I get to the humpty and find I need to make an adjustment I will make a split decision on wether to go in or out.
Shawn
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Thanks guys, I was pretty sure this was going to impact the rest of the maneuvers. I haven't had a chance to actually fly the sequence yet (Pacific NW Rain---where's Noah's ark when you need it??) but I've "chair flown" it many times.
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its just a placement menuever, to get your self a comfortabe distance from you. and if you go out (like i plan) you dont have to make the pull over the top hudge, make it tight. if before the spin, it looks like it could go any way, "snake"
the plane in or out and get it where you want it. just dont let the judges see it
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good luck!
brian
the plane in or out and get it where you want it. just dont let the judges see it
.good luck!
brian
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I thought since it was a solid line and not a dotted line that that ment it had to be positive G's rather than a "push" of negative G's. Is that right?
thanks
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Chris,
You are correct. Figure 7 -- if I were calling it -- would sound something like this:
Humpty Bump.
Prior to center, from inverted, push to a vertical upline.
1/4 roll, opposite positive snap centered on the upline.
Pull half-inside loop across the top to a vertical downline.
1 1/4 negative snaps to the canopy.
Exit upright.
You can keep the 1/2 loop on top as tight or as big as you like. Most pilots prefer to look at the top of the plane after the 1/4 roll which would bring the 1/2 loop in towards you. I also think this would present better for the judges. Practice it both ways and then you won't be surprised at a contest if you find yourself in an awkward position exiting the spin.
Hope this helped.
Ken
You are correct. Figure 7 -- if I were calling it -- would sound something like this:
Humpty Bump.
Prior to center, from inverted, push to a vertical upline.
1/4 roll, opposite positive snap centered on the upline.
Pull half-inside loop across the top to a vertical downline.
1 1/4 negative snaps to the canopy.
Exit upright.
You can keep the 1/2 loop on top as tight or as big as you like. Most pilots prefer to look at the top of the plane after the 1/4 roll which would bring the 1/2 loop in towards you. I also think this would present better for the judges. Practice it both ways and then you won't be surprised at a contest if you find yourself in an awkward position exiting the spin.
Hope this helped.
Ken
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HI Guys,
Great descriptions. I'm also flying the 06 Advanced sequence. Another way to determine whether to come in or out depends on the wind direction. If it is cross-out, bring the humpty in as it will look a lot nicer and be more controllable over the top. If it is blowing cross-in, bring the Humpty out.
The other memory trick for this maneuver is that whatever positive direction you snap going up, you will snap this same direction negative going down.
Its a great time of year to live in south Florida. We had one contest two or three weeks ago, and another this weekend!
Jim W.
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Great descriptions. I'm also flying the 06 Advanced sequence. Another way to determine whether to come in or out depends on the wind direction. If it is cross-out, bring the humpty in as it will look a lot nicer and be more controllable over the top. If it is blowing cross-in, bring the Humpty out.
The other memory trick for this maneuver is that whatever positive direction you snap going up, you will snap this same direction negative going down.
Its a great time of year to live in south Florida. We had one contest two or three weeks ago, and another this weekend!
Jim W.
Team Futaba
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Its a great time of year to live in south Florida. We had one contest two or three weeks ago, and another this weekend!
Its a great time of year to live in south Florida. We had one contest two or three weeks ago, and another this weekend!
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From: tacoma ,
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i found the sequence for the IMAC 2006 to practice flying and learning new maneuvers, but what do all the arrows and dots on the aresti mean? i'm gathering the dots are like the entry points for the maneuver, and the arrows are maybe a roll? or part of a roll??? would each maneuver be in a different portion of the box? like, no. 1 would be center then sequential left or right then back the other way? i bought a .32 size extra 300, and am starting to learn all this for mini-imac or whatever it's called.
it's this one...Lanier Extra 3.25 Kit .19-.32,47.25". is this a good plane to learn with? has anyone else built or flown one before? i like the small planes for some reason. i guess cuz i can make them go faster.
it's this one...Lanier Extra 3.25 Kit .19-.32,47.25". is this a good plane to learn with? has anyone else built or flown one before? i like the small planes for some reason. i guess cuz i can make them go faster.
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what do all the arrows and dots on the aresti mean?
what do all the arrows and dots on the aresti mean?
Here's a link to the Flying Cirkus thread on reading aresti. You've got some homework to do.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3801768/tm.htm
There are several threads in that forum that will help a new pilot.
If you've never given scale aerobatics a try, you might consider starting to practice with the Basic or Sportsman sequence. Some of the hardest skills to master in scale aerobatics are flat and level lines, 45 lines, and straight up and down lines.
Good luck with the practice. It's a lot of fun!!
Dean
(Click here to see the Flying Cirkus forum on how to be more competitive in scale aerobatics.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_426/tt.htm )
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From: tacoma ,
WA
yeah, i'm pretty much just figuring out how NOT to crash my junk (for the last 2 years anyway...i spend more time in the desert than home), but i would like to get into aerobatics, so i can crash my stuff with style. just curious what plane would be recommended in the .40ish range. i think i like the GP US .40+. the review on it talks more about 3D capable also. 






