P 160 "overcurrent" message
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I have a brand new P160RXi. I ran it once for about 5 min. as a test, but since that time I have not gotten a successful start! When I initiate the start sequence I hear the starter motor "bump", then I see the preheat message on the GSU. The preheat message lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds and a number value starts to increase on the screen above the word "preheat", then the start sequence is interrupted and the word "overcurrent" appears. I exchanged the 3 cell LiFe battery supplied with the engine for a 2 cell LiPo but there was no change. The same fault occurs every time.
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Over current usually means the ECU is seeing more than a 30A load. I presume you have not extended any of the cables? Do you have a spare ECU to Turbine cable, the black, red, yellow one.
Also if you do a burner test in the test functions and look up the tail pipe, can you see a glowing rod in the combustion chamber?
Also if you do a burner test in the test functions and look up the tail pipe, can you see a glowing rod in the combustion chamber?
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Dave, thanx for answering my sos.
the only manual I have is one I downloaded and it's for older engines (not the RXi's). So what is a burner test and how do I perform one?
I played around with the GSU and found a page titled "burner test" and the next page titled "burner valve test". So here's what I found: I pressed the "change value" button on the burner test page and the voltage reading dropped to around 5v and current reading rose to about 20A. I assume this because the ignitor plug is being lit. I went to the burner valve test page and could hear rapid clicking from the engine when I pressed the change value button. I assume that this is the fuel solenoid pulsing open/closed. while all this was happening I noticed wisps of smoke coming from the engine intake. so with all these assumptions I suppose the fuel solenoid and ignitor plug are OK. is that right?
the cable that Jetcat supplied (ECU/engine) is Quite long and I have it coiled up several times to keep things neat. I could easily shorten it if that's the one you're talking about.
the only manual I have is one I downloaded and it's for older engines (not the RXi's). So what is a burner test and how do I perform one?
I played around with the GSU and found a page titled "burner test" and the next page titled "burner valve test". So here's what I found: I pressed the "change value" button on the burner test page and the voltage reading dropped to around 5v and current reading rose to about 20A. I assume this because the ignitor plug is being lit. I went to the burner valve test page and could hear rapid clicking from the engine when I pressed the change value button. I assume that this is the fuel solenoid pulsing open/closed. while all this was happening I noticed wisps of smoke coming from the engine intake. so with all these assumptions I suppose the fuel solenoid and ignitor plug are OK. is that right?
the cable that Jetcat supplied (ECU/engine) is Quite long and I have it coiled up several times to keep things neat. I could easily shorten it if that's the one you're talking about.
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So, yes. Burner test and hold change value. 20A is high just for the burner. You should not shorten the cable as the resistance for rpm, temp etc is set for this length. You could try uncoiling it for this test. When you do the burner test, do you get the bright yellow/orange light inside the turbine?
Burner valve will open the start valve and run the pump slowly.
Do you have someone who could loan you a new long cable just to test?
where did the turbine come from? Maybe they can help.
So, yes. Burner test and hold change value. 20A is high just for the burner. You should not shorten the cable as the resistance for rpm, temp etc is set for this length. You could try uncoiling it for this test. When you do the burner test, do you get the bright yellow/orange light inside the turbine?
Burner valve will open the start valve and run the pump slowly.
Do you have someone who could loan you a new long cable just to test?
where did the turbine come from? Maybe they can help.
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Dave,
No, I don't see any light when looking up the tailpipe. But I wouldn't expect to. isn't the plug somewhere near the front of the burner can? How would the glow get past the nozzle guide vanes and the turbine wheel?
I bought the motor through Chief Aircraft.
No, I don't see any light when looking up the tailpipe. But I wouldn't expect to. isn't the plug somewhere near the front of the burner can? How would the glow get past the nozzle guide vanes and the turbine wheel?
I bought the motor through Chief Aircraft.
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You should see it at a slight angle, it is bright enough to light up the cans darkness. I did some photos in my last RCJi article. It could be the cable. Contact Chief and see how they can help.
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I also am having the same issue with my p180 RXI I just received it back from service for a new kero plug and ECU was also updated.
I flew 3 flights the week it came back and 3 the next weekend with no issues when I went to start for the fourth flight I get the OC:OVER CURR message I also changed out ecu pack with spare and no change. I emailed Jetcat twice with no response back. I just wanted to know from them if it needs to be sent back or gsu setting could fix. Keep us in the loop if you figure out your issue/
Thanks Scott
I flew 3 flights the week it came back and 3 the next weekend with no issues when I went to start for the fourth flight I get the OC:OVER CURR message I also changed out ecu pack with spare and no change. I emailed Jetcat twice with no response back. I just wanted to know from them if it needs to be sent back or gsu setting could fix. Keep us in the loop if you figure out your issue/
Thanks Scott
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OK, more time for this. If you use the manual/ignition button to spool the starter motor, does that work normally?
If you do the burner test do you get an over current reading?
After checking these do a full system reset and see if it clears the fault.
If you do the burner test do you get an over current reading?
After checking these do a full system reset and see if it clears the fault.
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Dave first thanks for taking the time to respond. The starter motor does work fine when spool is hit.
As for the burner test can you walk me through it I get to burner test under test functions looks like there
is a 7 min countdown timer that i cant seem to get to start the test but the screen does have numbers moving up
and down on both sides of the bottom screen
Thanks Scott
As for the burner test can you walk me through it I get to burner test under test functions looks like there
is a 7 min countdown timer that i cant seem to get to start the test but the screen does have numbers moving up
and down on both sides of the bottom screen
Thanks Scott
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No timer, just go to burner test and then press and hold change value white key. The figures are current/resistance and normally the two figures will end up around 7 if you hold the key long enough to burn off any fuel/carbon.
Dave
Dave
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Power off. Hold down the select menu button, switch on...ignore the prompts until it say release key to reset system. It will take a minute and then prompt you. You will need to do a learn RC again.



