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Yeah, imported from N.Y. Aerocraftrc.com
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not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.
not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.
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I built the Telemaster 40 many years ago and it does need reinforcing for the horizontal/vertical stab if you put a larger sized engine than recommended. I have an OS .55 AX 2 stroke in mine, which is great for climb performance with an APC 12x5 prop. I reinforced the tail by using an aluminum air-foiled tubing strut (K&S tubing) from the bottom of the horizontal stab to the under side of the fuse. Place the strut on the reinforced (blocked up) spar of the stab, under the fuse and up to the spar of the stab on the other side. Use Bolts through the stab and lags into the fuse. This strengthens the whole tail and the extra weight is compensated by the heavier engine up front.
Still have the plane and fly it frequently...
Have fun with one of the best flying planes ever designed!!!
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I built the Telemaster 40 many years ago and it does need reinforcing for the horizontal/vertical stab if you put a larger sized engine than recommended. I have an OS .55 AX 2 stroke in mine, which is great for climb performance with an APC 12x5 prop. I reinforced the tail by using an aluminum air-foiled tubing strut (K&S tubing) from the bottom of the horizontal stab to the under side of the fuse. Place the strut on the reinforced (blocked up) spar of the stab, under the fuse and up to the spar of the stab on the other side. Use Bolts through the stab and lags into the fuse. This strengthens the whole tail and the extra weight is compensated by the heavier engine up front.
Still have the plane and fly it frequently...
Have fun with one of the best flying planes ever designed!!!
Oly
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Yeah, imported from N.Y. Aerocraftrc.com
Yeah, imported from N.Y. Aerocraftrc.com
ORIGINAL: edmoor
not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.
not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.
I have been modeling most of my life, and not ever sell goes plesant. However, when I do find a dealer who understands repeat sales, I support him and not the flash in the pan!
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Hello iampilot, I have started laying out the fuselage. Tail feathers are pretty much done. Man this thing is huge. I did not really know just how big until I rolled the full lenthg of the fus plan out. Man the Senior must be a monster. I will post photos soon. And thanks for asking.
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Start of the Fuselage. I am still trying to decide if I want to go with the larger engine, or stick to the size as recommended. The front end of the fuselage is cut for a 40 size motor. The other plains I have show 2 differant nose lengths for ea. type motor, but this option was not included in the cut wood parts!
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A .60 two stroke is a bit much and a .50 four stroke is weak.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.
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A .60 two stroke is a bit much and a .50 four stroke is weak.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.
A .60 two stroke is a bit much and a .50 four stroke is weak.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.
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As I work on the 1st side to the fuselage today and have been pulling more and more lumber from the Hobby Lobby Telemaster 40, I have come to the following: The wood in this thing is horrible, looks like it was cut w/a cross cut saw, f/you younger ones, thats a 2 man saw, one on ea. end. Stringers are twisted and or bowed. Some parts look like a 1000lb break stamped it out. Is this indictive of the quality of product that the supplying company produces, or did I get a really poor kit. Oh yea, no there is no water damage to the box, as a matter of fact, the box is the nicest thing about the kit[&o]
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VERY nice Duco! thanks for the pictures.
I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.
Keep up the nice work
-Brad
I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.
Keep up the nice work
-Brad
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VERY nice Duco! thanks for the pictures.
I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.
Keep up the nice work[img][/img]
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VERY nice Duco! thanks for the pictures.
I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.
Keep up the nice work[img][/img]
-Brad
After all it is a electric I will learn to fly from @ the present time. So to build as kitted f/.40, build lite f/electric or beef up and move the firewall back f/the Saito. I am pretty sure the Senior I have will be electric and used for towing a Glider and photo work.
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The 4 stroke motors are heavier than the 2 stroke motors. On the STM I had to move my firewall aft 7/8", don't see any reasons why this is harmful.
You will still need to add weight to the nose once completed. Telemasters have a long fuselage and any strenghting you add, or in my case tail mounted
servos as well, lead in the nose will be required.
I like electrics too but a 4T in a telemaster is a nice match.
-Brad
You will still need to add weight to the nose once completed. Telemasters have a long fuselage and any strenghting you add, or in my case tail mounted
servos as well, lead in the nose will be required.
I like electrics too but a 4T in a telemaster is a nice match.
-Brad
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Great thing about this airplane is pure simplicity. If you don't
complicate things a wonderfull and able aircraft emerge. Many
of us OTFs will attest to the unique abilities of the design.
Old Telemaster Fan.
Ralph
complicate things a wonderfull and able aircraft emerge. Many
of us OTFs will attest to the unique abilities of the design.
Old Telemaster Fan.
Ralph
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Both basic sides are up and checking to make sure the tail wheel assembley will work and I feel it is just fine though the plans do call f/a bit larger wheel.
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Just a brief note of explanation.
Aerocraft of Riverhead, New York State, cut all of the Telemaster builder's kits for Hobby-Lobby. Last year Aerocraft were unable to buy sufficient balsa to produce Telemaster kits as apparently the Chinese had bought most of the crop to make wind turbine blades. That is why I have not been able to buy T40s for twelve months and why the supply of Senior Telemaster (STM) kits dried up soon after that.
The good news is that Aerocraft have managed to buy sufficient balsa wood to enable the production of both the T40 and STM. In fact the T40 is currently being produced and I'm assured that both kits will be available from Hobby-Lobby within a couple of months or so. The new kits will feature laser cut parts as opposed to die-stamped parts and despite rumours to the contrary both kits will continue to contain the same substantial aluminium undercarriages which have always been a feature of these kits.
The ARTFs are produced in China. Presumably the manufacturer there managed to secure sufficient balsa to allow for production but even the Electro, which is an ARTF T40, was not available for much of last year.
I have a list of fourteen British enthusiasts interested in buying these kits, if they all put their money where their mouths are, I shall be very pleased.
You can add two Italians interested in the Giant Telemaster too!
Aerocraft of Riverhead, New York State, cut all of the Telemaster builder's kits for Hobby-Lobby. Last year Aerocraft were unable to buy sufficient balsa to produce Telemaster kits as apparently the Chinese had bought most of the crop to make wind turbine blades. That is why I have not been able to buy T40s for twelve months and why the supply of Senior Telemaster (STM) kits dried up soon after that.
The good news is that Aerocraft have managed to buy sufficient balsa wood to enable the production of both the T40 and STM. In fact the T40 is currently being produced and I'm assured that both kits will be available from Hobby-Lobby within a couple of months or so. The new kits will feature laser cut parts as opposed to die-stamped parts and despite rumours to the contrary both kits will continue to contain the same substantial aluminium undercarriages which have always been a feature of these kits.
The ARTFs are produced in China. Presumably the manufacturer there managed to secure sufficient balsa to allow for production but even the Electro, which is an ARTF T40, was not available for much of last year.
I have a list of fourteen British enthusiasts interested in buying these kits, if they all put their money where their mouths are, I shall be very pleased.
You can add two Italians interested in the Giant Telemaster too!
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Now with construction of the Tele 40 and a Senior stashed back, and after seing the size of the Senior, I am not too sure if I would want to tackle building a Giant, but I would still like to aquire one, maybe someday, who knows.
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Oh yea, I have almost come to the conculsion to go electric on the Tele 40, I have spent the weekend looking and to do, is going to run a bit over $230.00 for the motor, ESC, batteries and charger, but will wind up w/a plane I can fly @ a local park where they will allow electrics but not fuel powered AC!
For some strange reason unknown to me, I keep steering toward this direction.[X(]
For some strange reason unknown to me, I keep steering toward this direction.[X(]
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Duco,
Electric powered T-40 would be fun, go for it.
Once you carry a STM outside of the house and put the wing on it, it seems much smaller.
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Electric powered T-40 would be fun, go for it.
Once you carry a STM outside of the house and put the wing on it, it seems much smaller.
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1. Electric motors have saved lots of flying sites.
2. Electric motors are nice and clean, don't vibrate and don't drip fuel all over the carpet once you've brought it home!
3. Electric motors can power all of the Telemaster range. I have used them in the T40 and an STM and they will even power the Giant.
4. However, electric motors lack SOUL.
You can't beat the sound of a Telemaster flying a low pass with a throttled back four-stroke!
2. Electric motors are nice and clean, don't vibrate and don't drip fuel all over the carpet once you've brought it home!
3. Electric motors can power all of the Telemaster range. I have used them in the T40 and an STM and they will even power the Giant.
4. However, electric motors lack SOUL.
You can't beat the sound of a Telemaster flying a low pass with a throttled back four-stroke!