BigTeeEldorado

Thank you and I agree there is an acceptable level on all my other planes to varying degrees that I normally would accept with traditional ailerons. It's these Junker style hanging out there like a miniature wing that has me worried and I want to eliminate as many variables so the inevitable "tuning" of these flight surfaces is not going to make my head explode. The more solid the connecting points, the less potential flutter or unpredictable/ ineffective trimming etc etc etc. Toward that end I eliminated one of the offending nylon control horns with some home grown replacements (see picture).....pretty stylish HUH!!!

Would you have any thoughts/experience with these style flaperons?

flyingagin

I am watching Big T even thought I have not commented before. Pretty cool beans.

Ken

soarrich

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Big Tee
If you turn your stylish horn around wouldn't that cut down on your slop by moving the connection to the aileron closer to the TE of the aileron?

skyrat71

Very nice and stylish horn! And, no. I don't really have any experience with this kind of flaperon on a model. How ever, I did rebuild a big many years ago, Avid Flyer serial number 2, that had Junkers flaperons. I remember something strange about the control system and the way the flaperons were connected. It may have been for a similar reason. I'll see what I can pull out of my dusty memory and google.

BigTeeEldorado

Appreciate anything you can find.

BigTeeEldorado

I think i see your reasoning but I want to keep the linkage connected directly over the hinge point to keep the forces in play here to a minimum. My thought is that the control horn is most effective mounted where it is at.

BigTeeEldorado

Decided on the colors and design for the fuse, still mulling on the design for the tail feathers and the larger canvas of the wing.

You can see the "bump" where I had to enlarge, raise the height of the firewall so the engine mounts fit when I turned the engine to get the muffler out the bottom. I think it actually adds a little character to the front.

skyrat71

Big Tee,
The 'something unusual' I was remembering was for the folding wings on the Avid. The flaperons are driven by a torque tube that extends into the fuselage, attached to a pushrod that has a strange adjustable universal joint on the end. Had nothing to do with balance or flutter control. Have you considered tension springs to help pull the flaperons up and dampen the 'slop'?

skyrat71

By the way, It's looking good! I like the 'bumped' nose. Adds some curved to an otherwise boxy airplane. Looks like a Cessna 206 or 207 front end.

FlyerInOKC

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Looks great! I love the color scheme!

BigTeeEldorado

Interesting idea but have not considered that. At the moment everything is speculation until I put it up and find out what I have. But the more ideas like this one the better prepared I will be.....Thanks


I agree on the bump.....I was concerned at first for the "look" but I kind of like the effect. I was thinking Cessna as well, I used to fly a 182 but I think your more right with the 206.

BigTeeEldorado

Thanks....I worked on the tail yesterday but having trouble coming up with something I like as a design. It seemed everything I tried looked too cliche'd or didn't have the "feel" I liked. I'll get there though.

flyingagin

I just let my wife do my schemes. I will then make minor changes. She understands what I need for visibility. I will throw out ideals and then she just makes it all work. The plane in my avatar is mostly her scheme design.

She will come up with colors and shapes and then we work together to to get it down to fine detail, size of patterns etc.

Ken

TomCrump

If I gave my wife free reign over colors, I'd have pink and purple airframes. I provide peramiters, and then let her make suggestions.

FlyerInOKC

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Nothing wrong with Pink, John Wayne wore a pink shirt in a number of his westerns.

flyingagin

I am lucky. She will have nothing to do with those colors on a plane. We both agree some colors should never ever be on a house,car, plane, or boat with very few specific exceptions. Part of the advertizing, or very artistic design that we think may be OK to look at but never would own.

Ken

TomCrump

My wife came up with this color scheme, AFTER I ruled out her pink and purple idea.

This one, I like !

FlyerInOKC

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Hey Tom, why not build another one for the wife to fly in purple and pink?

flyingagin

It takes a good scheme to pull off some colors or and combinations. That looks good Tom.

Ken

TomCrump

Unless the grand daughters want me to build a model for them, I seriously doubt that there will be a purple and pibnk airframe produced in my shop.

The little T-craft was painted using Ace aerosol cans. The colors are Navajo White and Terra Cotta. My wife hit the mark on this one, and I will probably re-visit the combination on future airframes.

I think my Kadet Sport would look great, done that way, when it come time to re-cover it.

jjscott

Tom, is the Taylorcraft a kit, and what's the span and power?

Jim

FlyerInOKC

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Tom, I have an old kit built Ace design I inherited in those same colors.

TomCrump

Jim

Yes, It's a kit, from Alien Aircraft. It has their complete electric package. http://www.alienaircraft.com/k502.htm

I hope to perform the maiden tomorrow.

If you get one, keep an eye on balance. Mine built tail heavy.

Mike, I've had two Ace Clipped wings. Both were white. One had blue trim, the other green.

Sig has one, now. It could easily find it's way into my fleet.

BigTeeEldorado

Had to photoshop over my first attempts cause it is BUTT UGLY and i would not dare share it!! . This is what I think I'll shoot for on the tail.

soarrich

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BigTee
Black in Vegas? To quote a famous author "Bubble bubble toil and trouble. "
On driving the ailerons, have you thought about driving them from the LE, with a push-rod going vertical to the servo-arm? Not much possibility for slop in that set-up.