Whats the best kit for all around areobatics and percision flying. Im looking for a kit that can still be purchased today, and is good for a new builder. .Up to .60 size.

As in do anything sport, more along the pattern line, or an airobatic tumble bug.

goplaneman,
The problem with you question is that there are almost as many answers out there as there are pilots/builders. You might want to try and narrow down your question a little bit more. Do you want gas or glow? 3D flying? Precision aerobatics? Scale? 60 size? Giant? These kind of qualifications really help everybody give a better answer to your question.

Ken

Hi

Beat the bushes and see if you can find an ultra-sport 60. They are no longer made but there are likely a few still around. A joy to watch and fly.

bert

List of pattern kits http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3053513/tm.htm

Tons of them. Depends on what you want. Super Sportster 60 with retracts is as stable as anything you can buy and will do any maneuver you throw at it if you set it up right. It flew as well or better than any of my aerobatics, but was more stable to land.

Precision aerobatics, fun fly. Able to knife edge and flat spin, yet stable. Glow please. Rember, first kit.

Hello; I would recommend the Sig Mid-star 40. It will do all you ask for and is an easy build. I have built 4 of them and would like to build another. Don't be surprised if you get a million different answers, everybody has their own idea of what the best is.

I built a Goldburg Extra 300 last winter and the Kit was great, Instructions covered what had to be done very well, Flies very stable and smooth but will do just about anything you ask it too except the 3D stuff but that's not what I'm into, but it's a great kit. I would say a new builder could handle this one if they read the instructions a few times before building (That's what I do) but not a plane for a new pilot so if your a good pilot but a new builder I would recomend it.

Dauntae

I have built a ton of kits. Just depends upon what you want from the plane. I built a GP RV40 with flaps and used a 40 2 stoke in it. Great flying little plane and it amazes me how easy it flys. For general sport flying in a 60 sized kit the Goldberg Sky Tiger is hard to beat. These are a couple of great flying/building sport Sunday fliers. Hope this helps.

JEB

OOPPS! I should have read the request a little closer. You asked about "Precision" flying planes. I enjoy the Goldberg Extra 300 for cost/performance.

Flyboy named a great one. I was going to say Sportster also.

I just built a CG Chipmunk last year. Its very crisp and tight. Very precise airplane. I haven't flat spun it. But with that rounded upper deck on the nose, it should flat spin very well. And it is very easy to build. It did take me a little while to get the incedence set up properly and get the planed tuned the way I like it. But its just great now. It knife edges effortlessly. You can fly it with high power, fast and big manuevers. Or you can fly it very slow, the conservation of momentum pendulum thing, at idle most of the time. It seems very versatile.

Thanks for all the input, Im suprised on how many kits are no longer made and are hard to find.

Hello there,

I was actually interested myself in a bipe for my next project. I was thinking about this plane.. Any comments, suggestion, advice???

http://www.balsausa.com/kits/kit.htp?id=14&shopperid=

Thanks in advance.

You put a link to the 1/4 Scale Citabria Pro, That's not a bipe, It is a aerobatic high wing, 2 of my flying friends and I are planning to build Hog bipes this winter, From the research I've read there are tons of modifications that can be done to the Hog to make it look better and it is supposed to be a great flying plane too. Could this be the one you where looking at at Balsausa http://www.balsausa.com/kits/kit.htp?id=33&shopperid=

Dauntae

Lol,

That will teach me not to check the link. I think that firefox RC1 has some copy and paste issues. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... I was going between the both of those planes. I personally think I like the 1/4 Scale Citabria Pro*, a little better.. Yup, I do.. I might just have to wait for a better looking Bipe to show up that is 1/4 scale. Meanwhile I think I will take on the Citabria Pro.

In addition to your post here are some images of the Hog Bipe.
http://www.fubarhill.com/sighog.html

This time I checked the link

Great Planes Ultra Sport 40 Plus Kit, has anyone built one? Would the kit be good for a first time build?

I dont know about the US40+ but I'm scratchbuilding a US60 and I
would say it would not be a good first kit.

Someone else mentioned the Sig Midstar. I built one and flew
the heck out of it and its an outstanding plane.

If your flying ability is a bit better then consider the
Sig Somethin Extra. I also built one of these and
it has to be one of the easiest to build kits out there.
Its so well engineered I dont think its possible to mess it up.

Its a great flyer. With mild throws its pretty docile and can
fly almost like a trainer. Increase the throws and move the
CG back a bit and it can do really nice aerobatics. Increase
the throws a lot and hang on. It can get really wild. Its not
a precision aerobat though. It wasnt designed for that.
If its precision aerobatics you are after then start thinking
about a pattern type of plane.

Mike Hammer

Look at the great planes extra 300s 40 or 60 size. It will knife edge all day and fly precision very well. The cap 232 by great planes looks like it would be a good fit for you also.

I should have said something earlier, I have been flying for about two years or so, I have flown the following:

1/4 scale Cap 232
.40 Magic 3D
Tiger .60
Aero-bat .60
Slow-fly P51
Hanger 9 Ultra Stick .60
Lt-40
and a bunch of small electrics.

The US40 is a great Kit, Not at all hard on this kit, Great fluing plane too/
.

Dauntae

Take a look at the Columbo Anderson Widebody 40 or 60. Absolutely incredible flying planes.

The widebody looks great, How hard are they to build?

My Widebody 40 was my second kit to build and it is my favorite. I would suggest any kit from CA Models for a great flying plane. A buddy built the WB 60 and I'm building the Epsilon 60 now.

The CA Models kits are the best kind to build in my opinion. They are certainly different from kits from Sig, or Great Planes. This can be sort of unsettling at first, but I got to like how they don't send hardware or give specific instructions on installing all of that, other than the landing gear. They leave that up to the builder and the freedom is addicting. The wings, stabilizer, and fin are foam. I asked a lot of questions from a friend and working with foam isn't very hard. Maybe it's easier than making built up wings. They certainly look and fly better.

I would suggest that you try the Widebody if you have a buddy who can answer your questions about building foam kits. It isn't difficult at all. These are a lot of fun to work with and the planes are some of the best out there.