Remembering Carl Goldberg Models "The Legends of Carl GOldberg"
09-21-2009, 10:06 PM
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I loved the original Goldberg models too.
Back in 1977 I learned how to fly on a Goldberg Falcon 56 (elevator/rudder). I got it as a kit for my 13th birthday and my dad and I built it together. We also built a 3 channel Heathkit radio we used to fly it with. I flew that for two years before moving onto other models but it sat hanging up in my dad's basement for almost 20 years. I finally resurrected it from my dad's basement around 10 years ago when I really got back into flying again (amazing what a divorce will do), popped a new OS 25 into it and flew it once again... what a memorable day that was (Dad had a tear in his eye... even though he said he didn't). It then hung in my garage for another 2 years until I had an accidental garage fire that distroyed 90% of my R/C gear... including the historic Falcon 56. Simply irreplaceable... but the memories will stick forever. The only think I salvaged from the burnt up Falcon 56 was the wing spar (extensive glue saved it barely) and a hand-carved (by my dad) wing tip/block. Both sit in my workshop were I see them almost every day as a reminder as to where and how it all started!
Back in 1977 I learned how to fly on a Goldberg Falcon 56 (elevator/rudder). I got it as a kit for my 13th birthday and my dad and I built it together. We also built a 3 channel Heathkit radio we used to fly it with. I flew that for two years before moving onto other models but it sat hanging up in my dad's basement for almost 20 years. I finally resurrected it from my dad's basement around 10 years ago when I really got back into flying again (amazing what a divorce will do), popped a new OS 25 into it and flew it once again... what a memorable day that was (Dad had a tear in his eye... even though he said he didn't). It then hung in my garage for another 2 years until I had an accidental garage fire that distroyed 90% of my R/C gear... including the historic Falcon 56. Simply irreplaceable... but the memories will stick forever. The only think I salvaged from the burnt up Falcon 56 was the wing spar (extensive glue saved it barely) and a hand-carved (by my dad) wing tip/block. Both sit in my workshop were I see them almost every day as a reminder as to where and how it all started!
09-21-2009, 10:49 PM
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Like many of you, I learned both controline and R/C with a Goldberg kit. My dad started me in C/L by building me a Shoestring stunter (McCoy.29) before I was big / strong enough to hold the lines on that thing. Wasn't even in first grade, but grew into it and flew it well into high school. When I decided to start R/C in 1980, it was with Falcon 56 Mk2. What a great airplane! Built another 5yrs later and have it to dad, I now have it and will repair it for two reasons- great memories and great flyer.
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RE: Remembering Carl Goldberg Models
Shoestring Stunter - Still hanging in my workshop with a K&B .40
Eaglet 50 - Plane crashed but still have the OS .20 that was on it
Lil Satan - Hangs on the wall in my home office with a Cox Black Widow .049
Swordsman 18 - Hangs from home office ceiling
Eagle 63 - Taught my dad how to fly this
Extra 300 - Rocket with YS 120, sold it last year at a swap meet
Sukhoi - Last one I bought
I like to build. I see a lot of interest in building when I fly my Carden. I hope more kits come back.
Eaglet 50 - Plane crashed but still have the OS .20 that was on it
Lil Satan - Hangs on the wall in my home office with a Cox Black Widow .049
Swordsman 18 - Hangs from home office ceiling
Eagle 63 - Taught my dad how to fly this
Extra 300 - Rocket with YS 120, sold it last year at a swap meet
Sukhoi - Last one I bought
I like to build. I see a lot of interest in building when I fly my Carden. I hope more kits come back.
09-21-2009, 11:09 PM
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Hey ChuckW,do you remember Fresno Hobby on First and Tulare streets?Thats where I bought all my CG models,I think I had every 1/2A c/l kit he put out,they usually did'nt last the weekend in our neighborhood.This was back in the early 60's.I remember Bob's Hobby in Fig Garden shopping center too,when I could afford R/C stuff in the late 70's he was the only real hobby shop in Fresno.I watched him maiden/crash a lot of rich kid's planes out at the Fresno Radio Modelers club field.Ah what memories.
Jim.
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09-21-2009, 11:36 PM
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I have the super chipmunk and the sukhoi that i build almost 12 years ago, one of finest on the markets. They are great flying models. I spent so much time making the sukhoi that i keep it as one of my display models.
09-22-2009, 12:59 AM
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I have built Goldberg control line and R/C. I have loved them all. I learned control line on a l'il Wizard and also flew a L'il Toot and the L'il Satan. I learned R/C on a Skylane 62 and I am building a Falcon 56 MKII. I have a Gentle Lady in the rafters and would love to build the Cub. I thought the kits were wonderful. Since the take overs they have definately not been the same though. One look at the Falcon 3 sent me searching for a MK II kit. I was lucky enough to find one in great condition and am loving the build. Like many kit builders I am buying now when I see one I like. I may be paranoid but the ARF guys out number us at the field now. Soon if you want to build it may be scratch building or nothing.
Until then however I still enjoy kit building. Thanks Carl.
Gord
Until then however I still enjoy kit building. Thanks Carl.
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09-22-2009, 06:09 AM
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ORIGINAL: ArcticCatRider
This is not designed to serve as a pissing post in regards to the viability of bringing back the entire line. Instead, us kit builders, us "real model airplane people," can bask in the glory of what we knew to be the greatest manufacturer and promoter of real modeling.
This is not designed to serve as a pissing post in regards to the viability of bringing back the entire line. Instead, us kit builders, us "real model airplane people," can bask in the glory of what we knew to be the greatest manufacturer and promoter of real modeling.
<edit> Tee Hee, thought it'd do that. Instead of protecting our oh-so-vulnerable youngsters, they just draw attention to the naughty word <endedit>
Anyway,
I agree, Carl Goldberg models were always something I aspired to owning, but could never afford. Now I can afford them, I have turned into a CG collector of sorts.
Six Falcons, a Skylark 56, Two Cubs, Extra, Chipmunk.
I REALLY want a Shoestring, but they're going for a lorra dosh on EBay; so that makes the Top Notch Models Shoestring a VERY viable alternative IMHO.
But it's not CG issit?........................
09-22-2009, 08:24 AM
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Now, why does the web-site allow ''pissing'' but not ''***** cat''?
<edit> Tee Hee, thought it'd do that. Instead of protecting our oh-so-vulnerable youngsters, they just draw attention to the naughty word <endedit>
Anyway,
I agree, Carl Goldberg models were always something I aspired to owning, but could never afford. Now I can afford them, I have turned into a CG collector of sorts.
Six Falcons, a Skylark 56, Two Cubs, Extra, Chipmunk.
I REALLY want a Shoestring, but they're going for a lorra dosh on EBay; so that makes the Top Notch Models Shoestring a VERY viable alternative IMHO.
But it's not CG issit?........................
ORIGINAL: ArcticCatRider
This is not designed to serve as a pissing post in regards to the viability of bringing back the entire line. Instead, us kit builders, us ''real model airplane people,'' can bask in the glory of what we knew to be the greatest manufacturer and promoter of real modeling.
This is not designed to serve as a pissing post in regards to the viability of bringing back the entire line. Instead, us kit builders, us ''real model airplane people,'' can bask in the glory of what we knew to be the greatest manufacturer and promoter of real modeling.
<edit> Tee Hee, thought it'd do that. Instead of protecting our oh-so-vulnerable youngsters, they just draw attention to the naughty word <endedit>
Anyway,
I agree, Carl Goldberg models were always something I aspired to owning, but could never afford. Now I can afford them, I have turned into a CG collector of sorts.
Six Falcons, a Skylark 56, Two Cubs, Extra, Chipmunk.
I REALLY want a Shoestring, but they're going for a lorra dosh on EBay; so that makes the Top Notch Models Shoestring a VERY viable alternative IMHO.
But it's not CG issit?........................
If you really want it....grab one! Save up some dough....the Carl Goldberg models that I hold near and dear aren't getting easier to find.
09-22-2009, 08:28 AM
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I loved the original Goldberg models too.
Back in 1977 I learned how to fly on a Goldberg Falcon 56 (elevator/rudder). I got it as a kit for my 13th birthday and my dad and I built it together. We also built a 3 channel Heathkit radio we used to fly it with. I flew that for two years before moving onto other models but it sat hanging up in my dad's basement for almost 20 years. I finally resurrected it from my dad's basement around 10 years ago when I really got back into flying again (amazing what a divorce will do), popped a new OS 25 into it and flew it once again... what a memorable day that was (Dad had a tear in his eye... even though he said he didn't). It then hung in my garage for another 2 years until I had an accidental garage fire that distroyed 90% of my R/C gear... including the historic Falcon 56. Simply irreplaceable... but the memories will stick forever. The only think I salvaged from the burnt up Falcon 56 was the wing spar (extensive glue saved it barely) and a hand-carved (by my dad) wing tip/block. Both sit in my workshop were I see them almost every day as a reminder as to where and how it all started!
I loved the original Goldberg models too.
Back in 1977 I learned how to fly on a Goldberg Falcon 56 (elevator/rudder). I got it as a kit for my 13th birthday and my dad and I built it together. We also built a 3 channel Heathkit radio we used to fly it with. I flew that for two years before moving onto other models but it sat hanging up in my dad's basement for almost 20 years. I finally resurrected it from my dad's basement around 10 years ago when I really got back into flying again (amazing what a divorce will do), popped a new OS 25 into it and flew it once again... what a memorable day that was (Dad had a tear in his eye... even though he said he didn't). It then hung in my garage for another 2 years until I had an accidental garage fire that distroyed 90% of my R/C gear... including the historic Falcon 56. Simply irreplaceable... but the memories will stick forever. The only think I salvaged from the burnt up Falcon 56 was the wing spar (extensive glue saved it barely) and a hand-carved (by my dad) wing tip/block. Both sit in my workshop were I see them almost every day as a reminder as to where and how it all started!
Sorry about your garage loss....that's terrible. In fact, I'm so paranoid about the same thing happening to me that in recent years I've separated some of my collection to my house, my folk's house, an aunt's house...just so I don't lose it all. They all think I'm silly.....I told 'em I'd pay 'em rent..ahhh??
09-22-2009, 12:38 PM
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Still love my Extra 300. Always thought set up right it was a good practice plane for the old AMA pattern in Sportsman anyway 
My goldberg is obviously the one in the middle. Spent hours cutting out those stupid letters by hand.
My Sukhoi is just waiting for me to buy new covering material, cowl, and belly pan. Engine flameouts over the years ripped my good share of landing gears out of the wing Flew nice though.
My goldberg is obviously the one in the middle. Spent hours cutting out those stupid letters by hand.My Sukhoi is just waiting for me to buy new covering material, cowl, and belly pan. Engine flameouts over the years ripped my good share of landing gears out of the wing
Flew nice though.
09-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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Well guys, I still have my Jr. Falcon from the 70's with my Ace equipment. Hundreds of flights on it. I grew up on rudder only and quite frankly am still sharp on it! Now fellow's, hve you all gone to WWW. EARLYRCMODELS.COM? Check out their kit's. I have build a couple of them. Long live Carl Goldberg Kits!!!
09-22-2009, 01:45 PM
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Good thread. Now I'm glad I hung on to my .25 powered Jr. Tiger! Neat little plane and a ball to fly.
One of my buddies learned to fly on a Sr. Falcon, and I helped build a couple of the Super Chipmunks. I think its about time I ordered a Super Chipmunk kit for myself.
One of my buddies learned to fly on a Sr. Falcon, and I helped build a couple of the Super Chipmunks. I think its about time I ordered a Super Chipmunk kit for myself.
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I had a 1/2A Blazer kit which I unfortunately never constructed. If memory serves, the quality of the die cutting was almost as good as today's laser cutting.
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09-22-2009, 03:33 PM
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Well guys, I still have my Jr. Falcon from the 70's with my Ace equipment. Hundreds of flights on it. I grew up on rudder only and quite frankly am still sharp on it! Now fellow's, hve you all gone to WWW. EARLYRCMODELS.COM? Check out their kit's. I have build a couple of them. Long live Carl Goldberg Kits!!!
Well guys, I still have my Jr. Falcon from the 70's with my Ace equipment. Hundreds of flights on it. I grew up on rudder only and quite frankly am still sharp on it! Now fellow's, hve you all gone to WWW. EARLYRCMODELS.COM? Check out their kit's. I have build a couple of them. Long live Carl Goldberg Kits!!!
09-22-2009, 04:11 PM
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What's really scary is that Tower, slowly and very surely, is going to have the last say as to what kit builders are able to build - or even if there is anything TO build! I don't know what everyone else is going to do, but the plans of these kits that I love are going to be copied, carefully stored away, and pulled out for kit cutting occasions only. If I can't buy the kit, I'll have the parts cut (or cut them myself) and STILL build what I want. I may be a hybrid kit-scratch builder before it's all over! Tower and everybody else can take their ARF's and stick 'em!
Kit producers like Goldberg one by one will go the way of the Dodo and it's a shame. Glad now that I bought that Chipmunk I didn't think I could afford!
What's really scary is that Tower, slowly and very surely, is going to have the last say as to what kit builders are able to build - or even if there is anything TO build! I don't know what everyone else is going to do, but the plans of these kits that I love are going to be copied, carefully stored away, and pulled out for kit cutting occasions only. If I can't buy the kit, I'll have the parts cut (or cut them myself) and STILL build what I want. I may be a hybrid kit-scratch builder before it's all over! Tower and everybody else can take their ARF's and stick 'em!
Kit producers like Goldberg one by one will go the way of the Dodo and it's a shame. Glad now that I bought that Chipmunk I didn't think I could afford!
As you accurately point out, if a kit stops being available, we always will have plans:-) I do have a lot of plans left over from 30years+ in the hobby, I just never felt the need to go and build one, but if the day comes, I will be ready!
I had 2 eaglets and a couple of j-3 (aniversary edition). Now I have a 1/4 scale Super cub (BUSA) and a 1/4 scale clipped wing Sig J-3, both gas powered...
I think Goldberg had an edge over Sig (at the time) because their kits were much easier to assemble than the Sig ones.
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09-22-2009, 05:31 PM
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You are right, but I don't think that you can mistake the current trend. This country is full of modelers that just, for whatever reason, do not want a kit. I believe that the handwriting is on the wall. If there's a kit you want, you better get it. The ARF world will rule one day, I hope I've got enough plans when that day comes to last me. Carl Goldberg Models is just the latest casualty. You guys are all right, when somebody like Goldberg goes, you lose a little bit of something. I guess I'm just not a big fan of change!
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I'm not nearly as old as most of you guys (20) but I remember learning CL on Carl Goldberg planes in the 90's. Lil wizard, lil satan and a jumpin bean. The wizard had a cox and the others ran norvel 049's. The wizard took a heck of a beating, we crashed that thing all the time, trying to pull loops and stuff like that. They are still in flying condition though I prefer to fly the larger 35 size models now.
09-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: Bladejunkie
Hey ChuckW,do you remember Fresno Hobby on First and Tulare streets?Thats where I bought all my CG models,I think I had every 1/2A c/l kit he put out,they usually did'nt last the weekend in our neighborhood.This was back in the early 60's.I remember Bob's Hobby in Fig Garden shopping center too,when I could afford R/C stuff in the late 70's he was the only real hobby shop in Fresno.I watched him maiden/crash a lot of rich kid's planes out at the Fresno Radio Modelers club field.Ah what memories.
Jim.
Hey ChuckW,do you remember Fresno Hobby on First and Tulare streets?Thats where I bought all my CG models,I think I had every 1/2A c/l kit he put out,they usually did'nt last the weekend in our neighborhood.This was back in the early 60's.I remember Bob's Hobby in Fig Garden shopping center too,when I could afford R/C stuff in the late 70's he was the only real hobby shop in Fresno.I watched him maiden/crash a lot of rich kid's planes out at the Fresno Radio Modelers club field.Ah what memories.
Jim.
09-22-2009, 09:00 PM
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I began in 1981 with a Lil Jumping Bean also with a Coz Golden Bee .049. What a great little airplane that was! I fianlly earned enought money with my paper route that I bought a CG 1/2 A Skylane set up with 2 channels ( elev and rudder). Not a smart move - brought it home in a bag. Moved on to the Eaglet 50. What a wonderful airplane that was. This airplane taught me how to fly with 4 channels and a Enya .09. Moved on to the Jr. Tiger powered by a OS .25 FSR. Another marvelous design. Then came the Anniversary Edition Cub, followed by the Sukhoi, then the Ultimate. All fantastic designs. Hard to fault anyone of them. I recently built my son an Eaglet 50 and this is what he learned on. It now hangs from the ceiling in his room! Thank God for Carl Goldberg!
09-22-2009, 10:34 PM
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The "Ranger 30" was my very first kit that I built back in 1963. Then moved on to a Lil' Jumpin Bean. I still have a beautiful kit built Goldberg Sukhoi SU26 that I put together about 8 years ago. She still flies like the full scale one!
09-27-2009, 08:17 AM
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In the early 1980's, I owned and operated a hobby shop in Miami, Fl. I ordered Eagle 63 & Eaglet 50 kits in case lots. There was never a dissapointed customer and every model flew as it should. I tried to help the beginners along and would test fly and trim out their models when our schedules allowed. After trimming, I would make a low speed inspection pass and as the plane passed abeam, I would mention "Do you remember when it was just a box of balsa wood?" There answer was always the same, a slowly uttered, "Yeah". The thing that is missing in todays Avistars is the pride of ownership and accomplishment that Carl gave the hobby.
I think the thing I hear most often when we discuss Goldberg kits, is no matter how badly you messed it up, they still flew great.
Thanks Carl
I think the thing I hear most often when we discuss Goldberg kits, is no matter how badly you messed it up, they still flew great.
Thanks Carl
09-27-2009, 10:30 AM
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Man what a great thread.
My first successful RC plane was a Falcon 56 I got from the base BX when I was stationed in Germany, it flew great and taught me how to fly, I got out of the USAF and went to Utah to go to school, since I was new there I didn't have anyone to fly with, so I flew the Falcon once or twice , but it made me so nervous that I just didn't enjoy it, so I took it down to the LHS to sell it, but thankfully for me, the owner talked me into keeping the radio gear and getting a Gentle Lady Glider with a power pod (the best hobby advice I ever got
). I quickly got it assembled and was able to learn to fly without having a nervous breakdown.
I went up through the Goldberg line up, Eaglet 50, Skylark 56MKII and on to countless other kits over the past 28 years. to this day the Skylark 56 is still one of my all time favorites (I have a new undisturbed kit) and I still fly an Eaglet, it's a ton of fun to fly and is much better on fuel consumption than my YS 140 powered Skybolt...
Thank you Carl Goldberg for getting me into this great hobby (twice)...
My first successful RC plane was a Falcon 56 I got from the base BX when I was stationed in Germany, it flew great and taught me how to fly, I got out of the USAF and went to Utah to go to school, since I was new there I didn't have anyone to fly with, so I flew the Falcon once or twice , but it made me so nervous that I just didn't enjoy it, so I took it down to the LHS to sell it, but thankfully for me, the owner talked me into keeping the radio gear and getting a Gentle Lady Glider with a power pod (the best hobby advice I ever got
). I quickly got it assembled and was able to learn to fly without having a nervous breakdown.I went up through the Goldberg line up, Eaglet 50, Skylark 56MKII and on to countless other kits over the past 28 years. to this day the Skylark 56 is still one of my all time favorites (I have a new undisturbed kit) and I still fly an Eaglet, it's a ton of fun to fly and is much better on fuel consumption than my YS 140 powered Skybolt...
Thank you Carl Goldberg for getting me into this great hobby (twice)...
09-27-2009, 01:19 PM
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