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fly20 05-17-2011 08:18 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Yeah, imported from N.Y. Aerocraftrc.com

ORIGINAL: edmoor

not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.

DUCO 05-17-2011 05:12 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 


ORIGINAL: Oly

I built the Telemaster 40 many years ago and it does need reinforcing for the horizontal/vertical stab if you put a larger sized engine than recommended. I have an OS .55 AX 2 stroke in mine, which is great for climb performance with an APC 12x5 prop. I reinforced the tail by using an aluminum air-foiled tubing strut (K&S tubing) from the bottom of the horizontal stab to the under side of the fuse. Place the strut on the reinforced (blocked up) spar of the stab, under the fuse and up to the spar of the stab on the other side. Use Bolts through the stab and lags into the fuse. This strengthens the whole tail and the extra weight is compensated by the heavier engine up front.

Still have the plane and fly it frequently...

Have fun with one of the best flying planes ever designed!!!

Oly
Thanks for the advice, I had already decided to reinforce, but like your idea of struts, have seen this done and asked severial threads up for any ideas about this. Could it be possible for a photo of this mod!

DUCO 05-18-2011 04:24 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 

ORIGINAL: fly20

Yeah, imported from N.Y. Aerocraftrc.com

ORIGINAL: edmoor

not sure about hobby lobby?......i dont buy there......they wouldnt sell telemasters last year becuse they said they didnt have any balsa.....thats bs. now they come out with a new version...see? they had the reason. i dont like hobby dealers like this. they can fool some of the people some of the time.....but not me. they are just middle men anyway....its all imported.

fly20, I will try to answer since this reply was posted to this thread! I believe edmoor was refering to the fact that balsa is imported, and the last time I checked, I do not remember seeing a bumper crop of balsa coming from N.Y. I also agree, most delears are middle men selling a product for another producer. I am not knocking any Hobby Dealers, but I do agree, some are better than others. If I receive poor service and or lies from a source I am spending my hard earned on, that business is over, period.
I have been modeling most of my life, and not ever sell goes plesant. However, when I do find a dealer who understands repeat sales, I support him and not the flash in the pan!

iampilot2 05-20-2011 08:17 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Duco,

Pictures? were are you in the build?

Hope to get that G10 part cutout and mailed to you by Monday.

-Brad

DUCO 05-20-2011 04:32 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Hello iampilot, I have started laying out the fuselage. Tail feathers are pretty much done. Man this thing is huge. I did not really know just how big until I rolled the full lenthg of the fus plan out. Man the Senior must be a monster. I will post photos soon. And thanks for asking.

DUCO 05-20-2011 07:56 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
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Start of the Fuselage. I am still trying to decide if I want to go with the larger engine, or stick to the size as recommended. The front end of the fuselage is cut for a 40 size motor. The other plains I have show 2 differant nose lengths for ea. type motor, but this option was not included in the cut wood parts!

mylamo 05-20-2011 10:48 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
A .60 two stroke is a bit much and a .50 four stroke is weak.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.

DUCO 05-21-2011 07:24 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 


ORIGINAL: mylamo

A .60 two stroke is a bit much and a .50 four stroke is weak.
I built one according to plans and flew it for years on a variety
of engines. A good .45 two stroke or .65 four stroke seems to
be about right. I had flaps and they are worth it for the fun
take offs. The airplane as designed is very strong but if you
load it up with a bunch of stuff it could use a dihedral brace.
That means six or seven pounds extra. It will,however lift it
with a .60 two stroke it just won't survive the first turn.
So with what you have learned and I value your advice since you have built/flown, a OS Max .46 two stroke would be the best choice for this kit. I agree, I do not want to add a great deal of mods/nor weight. I have a Saito .56 4 stroke, but with the engine mount/engine combo,it is too long f/the nose of the plane. I know I can extend the nose, but then I start changing the balance point!

mylamo 05-21-2011 08:33 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
OS .46 is perfect with an 11X5 prop.

DUCO 05-21-2011 09:21 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Thanks, I wll go w/your recommendations. Will save the Saito for another project.

DUCO 05-21-2011 09:26 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
As I work on the 1st side to the fuselage today and have been pulling more and more lumber from the Hobby Lobby Telemaster 40, I have come to the following: The wood in this thing is horrible, looks like it was cut w/a cross cut saw, f/you younger ones, thats a 2 man saw, one on ea. end. Stringers are twisted and or bowed. Some parts look like a 1000lb break stamped it out. Is this indictive of the quality of product that the supplying company produces, or did I get a really poor kit. Oh yea, no there is no water damage to the box, as a matter of fact, the box is the nicest thing about the kit[&o]

DUCO 05-21-2011 10:27 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
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What I have done up to now::eek:

DUCO 05-21-2011 01:11 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
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2nd Half of fuselage built over top of 1st, much like a giant rubber FF.[X(]

iampilot2 05-21-2011 02:27 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
VERY nice Duco! thanks for the pictures.

I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.

Keep up the nice workhttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f.../thumbs_up.gif

-Brad

DUCO 05-21-2011 03:27 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 


ORIGINAL: iampilot2

VERY nice Duco! thanks for the pictures.

I had to move my firewall back in order to mount the .91 four stroke in my STM. Plus I used a vibe/Isolation type engine mount, by Dubro.

Keep up the nice work[img][/img]

-Brad

Hello friend, I had thought of that! But I was concerned again about the point of balance being moved too far back resulting in a hard to balance airframe. I would very much like to use the Saito, after all it was this plane I purchased it for. Any tips would be most helpful. Regardless, I do have the OS to work with and or a 40 size electric. I have seriously considered going this way too!
After all it is a electric I will learn to fly from @ the present time. So to build as kitted f/.40, build lite f/electric or beef up and move the firewall back f/the Saito. I am pretty sure the Senior I have will be electric and used for towing a Glider and photo work.

iampilot2 05-21-2011 07:16 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
The 4 stroke motors are heavier than the 2 stroke motors. On the STM I had to move my firewall aft 7/8", don't see any reasons why this is harmful.
You will still need to add weight to the nose once completed. Telemasters have a long fuselage and any strenghting you add, or in my case tail mounted
servos as well, lead in the nose will be required.

I like electrics too but a 4T in a telemaster is a nice match.

-Brad

mylamo 05-21-2011 08:37 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Great thing about this airplane is pure simplicity. If you don't
complicate things a wonderfull and able aircraft emerge. Many
of us OTFs will attest to the unique abilities of the design.
Old Telemaster Fan.
Ralph

DUCO 05-22-2011 09:46 AM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
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Both basic sides are up and checking to make sure the tail wheel assembley will work and I feel it is just fine though the plans do call f/a bit larger wheel.

DUCO 05-22-2011 06:58 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
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A few more photos.............:D

Telemaster Sales UK 05-22-2011 09:30 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Just a brief note of explanation.

Aerocraft of Riverhead, New York State, cut all of the Telemaster builder's kits for Hobby-Lobby. Last year Aerocraft were unable to buy sufficient balsa to produce Telemaster kits as apparently the Chinese had bought most of the crop to make wind turbine blades. That is why I have not been able to buy T40s for twelve months and why the supply of Senior Telemaster (STM) kits dried up soon after that.

The good news is that Aerocraft have managed to buy sufficient balsa wood to enable the production of both the T40 and STM. In fact the T40 is currently being produced and I'm assured that both kits will be available from Hobby-Lobby within a couple of months or so. The new kits will feature laser cut parts as opposed to die-stamped parts and despite rumours to the contrary both kits will continue to contain the same substantial aluminium undercarriages which have always been a feature of these kits.

The ARTFs are produced in China. Presumably the manufacturer there managed to secure sufficient balsa to allow for production but even the Electro, which is an ARTF T40, was not available for much of last year.

I have a list of fourteen British enthusiasts interested in buying these kits, if they all put their money where their mouths are, I shall be very pleased.

You can add two Italians interested in the Giant Telemaster too!

DUCO 05-23-2011 02:46 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Now with construction of the Tele 40 and a Senior stashed back, and after seing the size of the Senior, I am not too sure if I would want to tackle building a Giant, but I would still like to aquire one, maybe someday, who knows.:eek:

DUCO 05-23-2011 02:51 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Oh yea, I have almost come to the conculsion to go electric on the Tele 40, I have spent the weekend looking and to do, is going to run a bit over $230.00 for the motor, ESC, batteries and charger, but will wind up w/a plane I can fly @ a local park where they will allow electrics but not fuel powered AC! :eek:
For some strange reason unknown to me, I keep steering toward this direction.[X(]

iampilot2 05-23-2011 03:45 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
Duco,
Electric powered T-40 would be fun, go for it.

Once you carry a STM outside of the house and put the wing on it, it seems much smaller.
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Telemaster Sales UK 05-27-2011 08:26 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 
1. Electric motors have saved lots of flying sites.

2. Electric motors are nice and clean, don't vibrate and don't drip fuel all over the carpet once you've brought it home!

3. Electric motors can power all of the Telemaster range. I have used them in the T40 and an STM and they will even power the Giant.

4. However, electric motors lack SOUL.

You can't beat the sound of a Telemaster flying a low pass with a throttled back four-stroke!

EscapeFlyer 05-27-2011 09:10 PM

RE: Telemaster 40
 


ORIGINAL: Telemaster Sales UK

4. However, electric motors lack SOUL.

You can't beat the sound of a Telemaster flying a low pass with a throttled back four-stroke!

AMEN!

Brian


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