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Hey snoop
the plans for the eagle kit call for about 1.5 in diheadral in the lowest setting it is about right for the sort of flying you will be doing -the higher dihedral wings are if you are going to do a 3 channel version- because it will initeate a roll with rudder easier - my advise build it like it says- learn to fly -experiment later -go back through this thread read -the posts from -bill -tom- and I . we have been there and seen all this stuff- it is probably the same things you are hearing at your own field

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by the way the eagle is one of the coolest trainers out there you can learn lots from it -I know that I learn or relearn something every time we have a student makes me want one all over again
go fly have fun

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:) Yes, it's a halloween theme I suppose. More like a 'im too cheap to pay for covering when I already had some' HAW.

We shall see how easy it is to see in the sky however.

The fuse is still sitting there. I am going to probably remove the fin and put a big bandaide on it. Everything else is just a matter of a little push here, a tad of glue there and I am done. The biggest issue is putting the gears back on ( 10 mins), The fin (30 min), and the 3" hole punch in the side of the fuse...bandaide (5 mins). The biggest is to take apart the engine and clear her out. They don't run good with mud in them I here!

Damn picky devices...

S

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snoop,

the dihedral issue doesn't have to stay in the past at all.

i read somewhere recently that a kit builder didn't like the dih... in his wings so he cut a piece of wood in the shape of a 'v' and glued it in the place where the wings went together. there was a small amount of gap left that he filled after the adhesive set up. i don't think he mentioned what he used for filler or what adhesive he used.

the other builders here could recommend some good suggestions i bet.

elad

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tom,

i haven't found hinges for the lid yet. if they cost as much as a .46 engine i'll just screw a few pieces of 1/2" plywood together at 110 degrees and use velcro to keep the lid from falling down.

:)

elad

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Sounds like a good plan to me, but if you fixed it with a servo the, you'd have an extra servo. That's the logic I use with my wife. I just don't tell her the real motive.

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Sincrash, sounds like you still have some work to do. Better get it done so you can get back to work on the bipe.

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You really like that sincrash thing eh? Ok, I kinda like it also. :)
Fuse is done ...sorta. Covering on punched holes (more than I thought), took longer than I thought because all the holes were between pieces of trim and the main pieces. Ie: Instead of one solid piece of covering/patching...I needed to cut to fit pieces then more pieces in different color around the main piece.

Fin, I just exasperated the break...dropped ca all over it, pulled it back and braced it with 'stuff' to keep it level and slightly against the break so when I release the brace it bounces back to perfect level.

Took the engine mount and engine out tonight. Tomorrow I will clean it up and hopefully be ready to fly on thurs (if I decide to take a day off) or friday (my day off). Weather is supposed to be sunny and 70 on thurs! WOW.

:)

S

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Tom,
I am just past the point of joining the wings. I'm expanding the hole in the wing for the aileron servo to fit. I am not working on it everyday. I have other projects at home that I'm alternating between.

Don,
Yes, I have read about 80 percent of this threads posts mostly between yourself, tom and elad. It did take about 2 hours to get through it all :D I actually don't hear anything at the field. I have been a fan of rc flying since I was 10, I'm 25 now. My dad bought me a goldberg cub anniversary edition for my 10th birthday. Its still no more than a skeleton after all these years so I finally ventured out and got myself a plane (eagle II) thinking it was about time I did something about my burning desire to fly rc. I have just joined a club which at about 25 miles is the closest to my house. I have not gotten the since of being welcome there so I'm skeptical about rejoining for the next year. It has been hard to get information from anyone and I don't feel that they care about having a new member join their group. You know what I mean? I am very jealous of Elad reading about his wonderful instructor. I highly doubt after my experience with this club so far that I will find someone as dedicated as his instructor. I just feel that being new to the hobby, I have a lot of questions that need answers and further more need an instructor that is going to be dedicated and not want to do things half assed or be obnoxious with me and not compassionate about what hes doing. I met with a guy out at the field about a month ago who is supposed to be the guy to get instruction from due to the fact that he flies everyday and is supposed to know his stuff. Anyway, in conversation he says, " make sure you build two over the winter because one won't last you" Now,... that may be true but for someone who is definately not wealthy by any means and barely had the money to get into the hobby spending $600 dollars on a whole plane, engine, radio setup this is not something you want to hear, even if it is true. So I'm kind of leary from the get go about flying with this guy now.

I have found one person who is a rcuniverse member and has been a great help. He is in my area and told me about a farmer who lets people fly on his land and that the guys there are a great bunch. I said I would check this out when my plane is finished. I apologize for the rambling but I guess I'm writing all of this because I don't know what to do. The club I joined seems to have the mentality that I'm a member, I have friends here and I know how to fly so why should I care about you. I know thats sad but its the impression that I get. Anywho...should I venture to another distant club, or check out this farmers field or play out the club I've joined for a little while longer. Being new to everything its not easy making decisions on what would be best. I here from people on rcuniverse and just going to club websites how much the club is a part of their hobby so I take it that if I'm not happy with the hospitality I should look elsewhere...I just don't know. What do you guys think?

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Snoop:

Every club, or any group of people, is going to have a percentage of rectums. Maybe you've just not yet met the nicer folks there.

But I would check out the group at the farmer's field, sounds like that might be a lot better than your "Official" club.

If you feel able to do so, get the Real Flight simulator, I've seen immediate solo flight after some time on RF, most using it as a primary trainer solo with an hour or less of dual time. And $200 for the sim easily trumps $600 for the second plane. Not that you wont get the second and later planes, just that you wont have to get it as soon.

Bill.

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Snoop, too bad there's all that water between us. Don and I are both instructors. We could get ya flying! Clubs can be funny. There is almost always a group that is a bunch of "rectums".(good one Bill) But usually there is another group that really wants to help newcomers. In the club that I used to belong to, that group was the oldtimers. One guy in particular went out of his way to help newbies. He worked with me almost every day until I got my "wings".
I'm not buying that part about needing two airplanes. When I belonged to that large club, and trained many students, only a couple of trainers were severly damaged. Usually they get trashed after the student is on his own and starts "feeling his oats".
As far as next years club is concerned, keep your options open. I'd check out that group at the farmer's field, however, you may not have met the right people at your current club. You're fortunate to have a couple of options.


Keep in touch

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Sincrash, oops, Sincraft, Good to hear that you're making progress. Post some pics of your plane when repairs are completed.

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hey! crash craft
hows that bipe doing what motor ? what color is your next turf stain :Dha ha really though what color is it going to be
don

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Snoop
for every group of snobs in a club, there is usually a group of people to help new comers to the hobby. these are the ones to hang around with anyway because they are the ones that are interested in the future of the hobby or their club yes the grey hairs like me might run the club but the clubs future is in the young people. funny how some forget to be a kid and get all serious. some where i said" it is not my inside that got old, just my outside" Keep checking around for groups to fly with, you will be surprised at how many there are close by

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Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate it. I think I will visit the farmer and his "group" once my plane is finished and then see how I feel from there. There are other clubs in the area. I just chose the one closest which is still a drive. I'm willing to drive farther to fly if I have to in order to feel comfortable. We'll see I guess.

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Snoop: Had the same problem here. I was 21 when I built my Eagle II. I received attitude from what I considered rather 'odd' people. I couldn't find anyone to help me, or if I REALLY wanted to join my local club I would have to jump through all kind of hoops to just be able to fly some other guys plane on a buddy box, after at least 5 hours of oral instruction..never touching a stick. Fah. Last year I found there was a local field that didn't require anything but the will to fly. Alas, here I am. :) Approximately 30 flights under my belt solo, of which 1 resulted in a pretty horrific crash. :) It's all better now. Tough plane.

The plane is fini'. Some of the trim work was punched through but I didn't have the proper covering. So many of the du dads were covered to serve a utilitarian purpose...to be able to fly on Friday.

The bipe fuse is complete! The tail feathers are complete (took only about 10 mins ha). I have some pondering to do to figure out how they want the tail feathers attached as the planes needed a cut away view at this point...but I'll figure it out. The instructions state: Create tail feathers, set aside and do not glue together yet as you need to cover them first. The box of balsa is getting light. Only the wings to go, and that was what I was looking forward to. I am probably going to build a Sig SR this winter also. My bro got the plans as he has wanted to build one for awhile. So we are going to make a couple of em. I'm thinking, camera plane. :)

Colors? too far ahead for me. If it were not for the heat gun I would have a pretty awefull looking wing. The first time I never used one and it turned out better. SO, I am going to research a bit on what I should use etc etc. I would have liked to have painted some of the fuse areas, but found out that is not such a hot idea. I do however want it to look ARF quality at the very least. Engine? I am going to wait until after xmas to get that.

S

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hey guys,

s, im glad you're liking your new name (new twist anyway on craft.) i've begun to get a kick out of it too. :D

tom, your logic won't work on my wife, she thinks i'm her servo.

don, crash craft huh? i like that one too.

snoop, the guys are right about checking out those options a little closer. sorry it ain't so easy there for you as it was here for me. my instructor is very interested in growing the club larger. and there's a few more members who are willing to take up his slack when he can't be there. i very much appreciate his giving me his flying time too and i make sure to tell him so regularly just to be certain he hasn't forgot that i appreciate it.

although i have only one solo flight under my belt, and KNOW that i couldn't be successful flying alone just yet, there's still the temptation to crank it up and try it. there's a lot of guys who can't resist, hence your instructor's 2nd plane advice. i HOPE that's what he's thinking. if he's thinking he might not be attentive while you're flying he's not the instructor you want. my instructor has kept me from crashing (with the buddy cord/box combo) about a dozen times in 3 or 4 lessons. he won't allow me to buy a starter, a battery, a flight box or even fuel until he oks it. i'm 54 yrs old and feel sort of like a kid for that, but the grown up in me is richer by a dozen planes for it too. well, one plane richer. i wouldn't buy a dozen without having wings first.


if you check out the farm airport or the other club and get the warm welcome you need to feel,,, look no further,,, you're HOME. even if the warm welcome is a longer drive, it ultimately will be much a shorter distance to getting your wings. and that's where your friends will be. i've met a few snobs in my lifetime, but i never wanted to get to know any of them well.

but, that's just my stupid opinion, :D

elad

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SINCRAFT
I thought it was just me that thought rc people were odd. I found it funny that you made that statement. My experiences so far have led me to believe that rc flyers are kind of different. Well at least some of them anyway. I guess its something I won't understand until I get more into things.

ELAD
It sounds like you have a very good instructor. I hope that I can find someone like that. It's easier to learn something when you have confidence in your teacher.

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Snoop, Why wait until your plane is finished to visit the farm group?. If the snow isn't flying, they probably will be. If they are a decent bunch, they'll be able to give you some decent advice on putting your bird together.
Yes RC'rs are an odd bunch. Not many people are willing to take long hours building something and then go out and put it at risk. Then, those people don't understand the satisfaction gained from doing so, either.

Elad, too bad my logic won't work. You'd be amazed at what I've been able to get away with.

Sincraft, Post some pics of the completed fuselage in your Charger thread.

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Elad, your statement about just taking off and having a go at it is exactly what I did one day. High winds, poorly tuned engine, and only one flight that year while the prior year I had always had someone to shove the controller into their stomache. I did however make a couple solo's last year. My first attempt ended bad. I lost power on takeoff and crash landed. About an hours worth o repairs. The second attempt lasted 5 mins as all I wanted to do is get it back on the ground after I took off. Once I did I literally packed up in less than 5 mins (including cleaning the junk off my plane/oil) and dashed at of there like I stole something. And actually I did. My freedom! Ever since then I try to remember how my first landing was...I do remember that I hit the runway...sideways..and I bounced but then landed in the grass and rolled to safety. To this day my landings are a bit squirly. Landing on pavement, it's hard not to bounce. Last friday I landed on the 180' x 26' runway...slowed enough to turn it around and took it off immediately again. That was my crowning acheivment so far. However, it was followed by a crash into the trees and a rather lengthy search for pieces parts. She is ready to go now, and hopefully (wind permitting) I will be flying tomorrow. Tally ho!

Snoop, odd is a nice statement. :) Some are *******s, some are VERY nice, some are weiiiiiiiird, but most are just a good ole bunch of guys. I usually notice some wierd quark about them..and often recently wonder, what is mine? I would most likely not notice it being on the inside looking out. I'll have to video tape myself and my statements some day. HA. In my area however, the best description I could give is there are 3 categories. 1. older nerds 2. old guys. 3. young guys that crash and you never see again. HA. I fight to stay out of all 3 categories, and have only met a handful of 'normal' people. All in all though, in any of the above categories, I am glad to talk with them and fly with them. I know where I stand with these people, and they know where they stand with me. Just two people interested in the same thing, with probably completely different lifestyles before and afterwards. THAT'S an interesting aspect of the hobby!

Tom, in due time my friend. Batteries have gone by by. I need to buy more but am BROKE. I get paid tomorrow. Poor trick or treaters are going to get a handful of whatever I have left from when I first bought candy but ate most of it. Damn Junior mints! Why do you tempt me soooooo!

:)

S

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Sincraft, Did you lose the batteries in the crash, or were they destroyed?

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s&s,

weird? normal?

this statement will be like the pot calling the kettle black, but the only people that i ever thought were normal were the ones i haven't stayed around long enough to get to know very well. familarity usually exposes weirdness and abnormality.

elad

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Elad,
LOL Oh how so very true.

Tom, batteries are a ok. I just flew tonight. :) I was speaking of the batteries in my camera. Damn digital camera really suck up the juice.
I waited to later this evening to fly to allow the 15mph+ winds to die down, got to the airfield at about 4:30, and did about 30 mins of preflight/added a muffler redirect. It started up rather nicely, only about 3 flicks and I already had a looseness feeling and a putter. Probably a few more later I had it actually running. Sure makes the engine sound different, and seemingly run different with a redirect. I am tired of battling the huge amount of gunk on my wings after flying. It will help a bit. I still had alot on my fuse and a bit on my wing, but nothing like what I am used to.
I was VERY afraid of that tree area I hit into the last time. :( Oh and btw, I don't think black was the best color for my airplane. I don't know how anyone can fly if they don't have very good eyes. I wear contacts that correct my vision to almost perfect, and I was getting confused BIGTIME as to how my plane was angled. It is hard explaining to people also that at a certain flying height and distance away, you can't tell if you are in a 30 degree bank to the left or the right because the siloette looks the same. I did a hammerhead and as I was coming out of the loop the wind (about 12 mph) pushed my wing over but to me , and with evening coming fast with that dark color...looked like it was coming out of it ok but I knew it wasn't. I pulled back and immediately realized that tighted the 'death spiral' I was in. Now I was stuck with the notion that if I don't decide to push the wing in one direction...I will certainlly crash. I pushed right..the plane leveled and THEN I pulled back to correct the now contining fast dive.
-Wing speed test: check. (whew)

I had one of best landings tonight also. It was the slowest I've had yet it also didn't drop at the last minute or anything bad like that. Perfect down the 26' wide runway, one tiny tiny little bounce and 100' later I was turned around and took it off immediately.

Good times.

Elad I saw a .60 OS four stroke on sale at the local hobby store for 55 bucks! It was NEVER run before (or so they say), however it was OLD. Those rod doohickeys that normally are covered with a cover were uncovered. The old guy that runs the hobby store says its a good engine but old. Just wonderign what you guys that have been in this for awhile thought of that engine? He said it was like one of the first 4 strokes out apparently. It has 'made in japan' written on it.
This guy has several old engines on sale for $1 per CI. IE: .35 OS for 35 bucks. That .60 seems like a good deal though. I am thinking of buying it and popping it into something else I build this winter. If it doesn't work I am sure I could at least get 30 bucks back from the guy. He is selling it for someone that is selling his collection of stuff because he is too old to fly. Which kinda pisses me off. I would love to meet some of these guys up at the airfield and fly them around with my buddy cord. I know if we had a more open airfield they would do fine but the treeline sometimes hides the plane in their vision. Thus they are all quiting. :( The guy who owns the hobby store is I think 76 and had a stroke about 6 years ago. He from his own admission was never really a great pilot. But he still loves to fly and more often crashes them than lands them safely. lol. This guy is crazy. He refuses to use a chicken stick to start his airplanes. He is a GREAT builder. He never uses plans, and rarely are his airplanes even 1/2 the weight of most of the airplanes out there. But yet they are just as strong if not stronger.

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Sincraft, Hopefully Don will see your post. I think he knows something about those old engines.
I don't think you'd be happy with it. From what I understand about old 4/strokes, is they are powerless and heavy. For the money, it might be cool to put it in your Eagle. It should have about the same power as a 40 2/stroke. It might be cool in a Goldberg or Great Planes 40 size Cub.
I know what you mean about camera batteries. Don used three sets when he took the pics of my Stinson and 109.
Glad the Eagle flew well. How much junk did you get out of your engine when you cleaned it?
By the way, I'm normal. Just ask me. (Not Don)

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lol normal. Hmm You should see the post i posted in the engine discussion. It has the ebay link to the exact engine. I'm thinking of buying it just to sell it on ebay really if anything. I know I can get a few bucks more. At least 20.

I also bid on a fokker dr triplane with an os91 4 stroke. :) I'm going to lose it. But that's the fun. I pay what I want right?

Hey Tom, what is a good 2nd plane for me btw? Obviously this bipe is NOT. I need to learn how to use ailerons and want something I can either 1. put this current enya .40 in or 2. something I can put that OS .60 4 stroke in if it works and isnt a bad engine per say.

Oh and btw, you are NOT normal. I'M NORMAL. So that's how I know you are not. The reason I know just fyi, the aliens told me so!

Edit: opps in ahurry to reply as I saw you were online. Junk in the engine was about 1/4th a teaspoon o dirt. Mostly embedded in the head, some in side the carb and some down inside the engine. I cleaned her out good, and gave it a bath on the outside also. I found batteries (in a remote I never use) and am going to post pics of both planes in a few mins. :)



S

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ok more pics. Was trying to figure out why my camera seems to be losing memory. Not to mention, it freezes up in video mode (not that it's worth much). I formatted the media and suddenly am able to take 10 hi-quality pics instead of 1. And low qual I can take 80. This camera is horrible.

Anyway, here's some more schtuff.

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opps a bit out of place. Here's more..

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t & s,

i don't think i'd know normal if i saw it in the mirror. but how'd i know,,,, i never do see normal in the mirror. but wait, maybe that is normal for me,,,, hey tom, if that's right, maybe i'm seeing you in my mirror.

man oh man,,,, talk about convoluted logic......

$60.00??? sounds ok if you're into paying for schtuff.
tom and bill would know a lot more about its worth than i would.

yesterday one of my workmates dropped a brown bag in the bed of my pick-up. i looked inside the bag this evening. it held two boxes, 1) a never opened hitec focus II, a 2 channel am radio with 2 hs 300 servos, and 2) a fox .19 engine that's never been run. i don't know if i'd ever buy a .19 fox, but i'll probably use this free one someday. i might not should be so hard on the fox brand they're still in bizz since i was a snotty nosed bratt. the li'l .049 i had as a kid was ok for a dozen crashes. :)

the radio has a crystal in the back, and the .19 has 3 plastic packets in its box. one is a high speed screw and another is a low speed screw while the 3rd has 2 sizes of allen wrenches. i have no idea why the extra screws and wrenches.

i flew today, but no landings. i think ron wanted to see if i remembered how to move the controls after what seems like a month of no flying. tomorrow he says there will be a lot of emergency power loss practice. i think i'll have a hard time getting aligned with the runway. if tomorrow's weather is like today's it'll be purrrfickt.

elad

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oh yes,

nice work and good pictures.

elad

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Hey guys- they say 33% ofthe people are mentaly unbalanced. Now think of your two best friends do they seem OK? if so -your the one HA HA:D
good flying dale- now you have a radio for a park flyer thanks to a kind soul
sincraft go find a tiger 2 It simply is one of the best sport planes around- as far as that old 60 they are really cool desk ornaments- they were not popular in an airplane for all the reasons that tom said- absolutly no parts available- so break it and its done -the best application I can think of would be an Old timer style that you only need low rpm and the extra nose weight- todays four stroke are a world apart from the old ones

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Elad, When you look up NORMAL in the dictionary, they use my picture as the definition! That donation is neat. It'd be nice if we could get some flying weather up here. It was nice a few days this week, but work got in the way. Now it's the weekend and the forcast is for rain.

Sincraft, A GOOD second plane would be the TigerII that we were discussing a few thousand posts ago. Go back and see what we had to say about it. If you build one make it a tail dragger as you need to learn that for the bipe. There are other good planes out there, but to me, this is probably the best bet.

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Hey thanks for the tips guys! And believe it or not I am still winning my ebay auction for that .91 os 4 stroke including a beautiful ww1 triplane for 160 bux. :)
Yea I kinda figured that engine wasn't the greatest deal, but something yesterday caught my eye about it that other days as it sat there did not.

As far as the mentally unbalanced part, I can assure you I am. That is something I am certain of unfortunately. :(

Elad, good luck buddy. Emergency power loss? What are you doing flying into electrical storms? HA. I've had two in probably 20 flights. One ended not so good as you may recall. It was my first true solo flight and happened 3 seconds after takeoff. The other ended beautifully as I was in the air and had time to react and bring her in.

S

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Sincraft, If you win that auction, keep the triplane in your hanger. You could use the engine in a 60 size Tiger. That would make a good second airplane and it would leave the Eagle as a backup. The tripe is for later in the learning curve.

Don, I know you and Tim aren't balanced, proving that I am!!!

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hey guys,

i've always been on an extremely delicate balance, exactly on the edge, with one foot on a bananna peel. and some armour encased guy riding toward me on a tall white steed and pointing at me with one of those dark ages javelines.

i'm betting on the other guy.

elad

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Elad, You just have to figure that you're smarter than they are! Always bet on yourself, even if you're wrong!!!

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Elad, LOL!

:)

S

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tom,

when i bet on that other guy and he wins at least i was right once. ha

s,

thanks.

saturday flight was shortlived. i took off, sort of squirrley again, and ron saw something i didn't see. he took over the control, and the eagle took on the flight pattern that looked like a vertical climb attempt, then looked like it was an attempt at knife edge maneuver all from less than 8 feet up, then suddenly the eagle met the runway at full throttle. the prop broke off which allowed the engine to rev to a never before experienced rpm. the eagle settled sort of upright, sort of nose down, sort of on its side and sort of looking back at us.

while this rpm extreme was going on ron showed me that the radio inputs from the radio he was holding had no affect on the engine speed. i tried the same with my part of the buddy box set-up and i had the same results. it finally quit running and we put the battered plane in back of ron's truck and we all left the field. the spinner was badly bent and the end of the left wing was kind of chewed up. there were small places torn on the underside of the wing covering.

i theorized there was intermittent operation in either the transmitter or receiver. ron thinks the receiver switch was pulled only partially on then vibration during takeoff made it go back to the off position. ron says he can have the plane repaired with about an hour of shop time, including switch replacement.

we have a club meeting this coming tuesday night. the guys have one project going using a 6 hp engine. wow!

later, oh ye well balanced dudes,

elad

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Elad, Your instructor comes complete with repair service? You don't know how fortunate you are!!!

Good to hear that the Eagle wasn't severely damaged.

We had rain this morning, so I started working on the FW. Got some stuff done. When I looked out the window, the sun was out. Barely any wind, too. I was already committed to working on the plane, tho. So no flying.

Sincraft told me that he wanted to. Wonder if he got to go.

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Eagle squirly?! NOOOO! Say it aint so!

Well, I have been saying this but people that fly my plane say. It's great!

But on takeoffs, especially with wind. The plane seems to have a mind of its own. It seems like it wants to stall or knife the first turns. Everyone has been saying my takeoffs look picture perfect, but they have no idea how many inputs i have to produce to do that. I flew my brother trainer and it's as easy as pulling back on the stick and slightly turning for the first turn.

Glad to hear nothing serious happened to your eagle elad. That could have easily become a stall or tip stall that resulted in a full throttle SMASH into the ground. I've seen probably 10 crashes from other people since flying. Out of those 10, 9 of them resulted from takeoffs or landing attempts. All from good pilots. One was an idiot hitting into the trees. :ME:

I fly very cautious and with buttocks clenched now. I am hoping I can get a few more flights in this year. I still can't believe I was flying with a short sleaved shirt on today. Other people had shorts on. It feels like spring outside, and I am loving it. We never get this weather, it is either HOT or COLD. If it is midranged, it is cloudy and ugly. Today was kinda sweet. Except for the hellish winds, but they eventually died down also.

I lost that ebay auction for that 4 stroke w/ dr1 triplane. It went for only 180! DOH. I would have taken it to 200. I messaged the guy and told him I could come very soon to pick it up as the reserve wasnt met so he has the option to sell it to me if he wants. I'm sure he will work with the current high bidder though. :( That kinda sucks. I came home from flying and passed out on the couch. Woke up hours later realizing that I slept the night away. Now I am wide awake and have to work in 5 hours. DOH.

S

RE: Eagle 2 ARF & 4 Stroke Engine?
 

Sincraft, It's natural to be nervous for a while after you crash. You'll get over it.

Don't worry, that nice weather will end. After being in the fifties yesterday, it rained, was windy, and in the low forties today.