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yeah i love simple lol you are moving right along you are making me miss this plane quite a bit i am on the fence to do another one keep those pics a coming lol

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This kit is very easy and fun to accomplish, you should go for it, you have the experience so you know what exactly to expect.

I do run a Signs Business and I have some professional signs cutters which I tried to use before cutting monokote but never had success, I only have cut regular signage vinyl and stick them to my planes, monokote is several times thinner than the regular signage vinyl, but here we are with a new generation sign cutter, we tested with monokote material and after several setup tests, WOW!!: it is capable of cutting monokote, now I just imagine the kind of jobs that I can do to make more nicer schemes for my future planes.

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good deal on those trim schemes i think the next time i get one of those 10 bucks off from towers on a 50.00 or more order i will pull the trigger on this kit again and launch it with an OS-91 that i have from a dead stick yesterday which resulted in a broken fuse on a 4-5 year old u can do. could not make it back to the run way and that plowed up field is hard on a dead stick lol

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Hello everyone, Im also building this kit, and thought i was at the covering stage, but now due to reading this post im thinking of adding the duel aileron servos.
I built in the torque rods already,but i could just just let them free float, as ive added duel servos to a couple of 60" wing span planes that were arfs and were built with a single servo bay in the center. On those planes i added servo bays similar to the ones Alfredbmor has done here.
On this size of plane i kinda figured two servos would be over kill, couldnt i just run one high Torque/speed servo?
P.s. this is my first kit, so im open to any build tips.

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i did the kit with one servo; however, i am looking at doing the kit again and i will def use 2 servo. This will allow me to fine tune mixes, run flaps, large 3d throws, & many other better flying tatics...

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krayzc-RCU Thanks i think i will add the duel aileron servos after all, I too like to have the flaperons option, and mixing ability.

Im thinking for color scheme of going with Yellow base color with black trim.
It sould make it really stand out in the air.
Any opinions on this idea

see pictures: Id like to use colors like on the gee bee y, but use the trim scheme like on the the 330l extra in the pic ,Yellow with black stripe and black on the wings.
What do ya think?

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rugerv45
i like those colors to i told alfredbmor on page one that i am thinkimg more toward a yellow base also. Make sure to post some pics for us. As i mentioned to alfredbmor i think i flew mine wiht standard 40 oz servo even on the rudder. I never did try a knife edge loop but i did about everything else. The next time around i think i would use hitec 475 servos and my OS-91 running a 15 x 4 W apc.

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Rugerv45:

Black and Yellow is a great choice and the trim is also great, I do think like krayzc-RCU about the double aileron servos, the benefits becomes tangible when you use a programmable radio, then you can set flaperons or spoilerons at your choice and are beneficial for landings set up and some 3D maneuvers.

Yesterday I started to put in place the red and green metallic monokote on one side of the fuse, to activate the monokote' glue I applied windex and now I will have to wait 24 hours for a full activation of the adhesive, I believe that the ammonia of the windex is the activator, then I will iron on the edges to avoid any separation.

Here are some pics of the process:

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Hey that looks great!
Im still a little new too covering work. I did a wing half once after detecting too much flex in that wing after a hard landing in wind conditions.
I took it slow and it came out not looking too bad, but id sure love more professional looking results on my present covering job.
any tips would be appreciated.
Ive never heard of using windex.
So you wet the solid color with windex, then position the trim? I thought the monokote had to be heated?
Could you explain in more detail for us with less or no experience?

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alfredbmor
man that is looking outstanding i will be taking an easier way out on my kit doing a sold color and then ordering graphics to do the rest lol

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Monokote's adhesive is normally activated by heat but when you apply monokote over monokote with an iron, bubbles of air will appear trapped between the monokote layers, a good friend of mine told me some years ago that I should use Windex as an activator of the adhesive of the monokote and let it dry 24 hours, since then I have applied on some easy schemes using Windex and then iron the corners just to make sure that it wont separate. No problem till now.

Tips related on monokote covering come on many manual kits, I have learned a lot from there, and also there is a forum here at RCUniverse with this kind of topics. I am not an expert but for sure I will be glad to help on any issue that you may have covering your plane.

Alfred.

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Thanks, I looked o RCU and found one with some video.
I think i was doing the process right, but was using a little too much heat. I need to get a thermometer.
I dont no if i will get my cap covered this week,got alot going on.
but as soon as i get most of the covering done ill post some pics.
I believe i will be using lustercote for the cowl and pants, but will wait till covering is done.

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Great!!
Can you tell me where is the video posted? I'd really want to take a look at it. Thanks.

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I found it by by typing monokote under airplane forum, scroll down to monokote technique, and it is post #10
submitted by (minnflyer) he uses monokote and ultracote.
there are three videos in that post that i couldnt get to come up, but he included a link to his newest videos that has five videos
that you can download as a group in a zip folder. they are large files so you have to veiw the five one at a time.
Very good information to pass on to anyone doing their own covering.
He ends up with a very nice looking design too.
heres the link
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=726

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Here are a couple of my mods to the kit:
I made servo holders screwed into ply doublers attached to the ribs on each side.
then desided to fill in the surrounding area with balsa sheeting.
also added a finished cockpit, and later will make an instrument panel with clear plastic covered guages.
I dont own a tap set for the wing bolt holes, so i substituded t-nuts,with a dab of epoxy to make sure they dont come loose.
I also upgraded one size on the wing bolts, using nylon bolts
I had to move everything into a small room, My garage is too moisture prone due to some rain weve had lately.
I was afraid of warping all this bare balsa!

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Rugerv45:
Great videos, they are very illustrative and for sure will help us in our future covering jobs. Your Cap looks so good, servo hatches are great and covering the rest with balsa was a good idea. I was about to do the same with the cockpit but I thought that I might cover the holes with monokote (gray color) now I am in a doubt again and I want to install a Pilot bust so maybe I will make a hatch with balsa to support the pilot bust, about the instrument panel you have a great idea there and I think that it will make it look better than a simple printed vinyl that I was planning to use, now there is something else to think about. Rugerv45 you have to keep posting and showing pics, there is so much to do and post. Thanks.

Now to the process again:
Both fuse sides and elevators are now ready with the graphics, they pictures are a little shady but it looks great. I was so immerse on this job that I forgot for complete the weekly meeting of our Aero model club, well no problem I'll meet the guys on Sunday at the field.

Now I have to move to the wing. Wings have always scared me a little (Building and covering), but at the end they all get done soon or later. I bet this will be sooner.

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Thanks alfredbmor for the thumbs up!
Minnflyer really helped me with a couple of my wonders with his videos, I hope he posts some more later.
If you are interested in making your own instrument panel, heres a pic of one i put in an extra 330L Arf awaile back.
You can take the decal GP provides and dress it up abit.
Cut your decal out of the decal sheet (dont remove the backing) , trace around it on trace paper or printer paper. then
lay the paper over the gauges and trace around them.(so they are inside the outline)
next trace over your cirlces again once more on a piece of scrape balsa sheet, apply a little pressure so you will leave the circle marks
in the balsa.
Then just cut the outer shape, and cut out the circles with a #11 blade or a dremel, then paint or cover the balsa and lay it over your decal.
put a small drop of ca on all four sides to keep them together.
And wa la its ready to glue or screw in place.
I know it sounds like this would take hours to do, but it really doesnt take that long, and looks better than the decal they gave you.

The figure i found at a garage sale for 50 cents, and i thought ----pilot---
he is hollow including the head and arms, so he only added a few grams of weight! The headset was made from a sewing pin sanded flat on one side for the mike, and the ear phones are painted balsa scrape.
Sorry for the book here, lol you all continue on!

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Are you still cutting monokote looking for ideas on a 33% staudacher? Looking for ideas.

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Rugerv45:
You have a very professional instrument panel out there, I have seen some similar of them at the LHS but they are very expensive and I have always opted for installing the bare printed vinyl, but now thanks to you I can have it with out take my wallet out.
Your pilot is very professional, it better flies the way it looks LOL!
You will need to grab another one like that for your cap. I have a couple of pilot bust around that are willing to ride so I will use one of them, they are the Sullivan’s brand, not that great looking as yours and very expensive, I remember that I regret all day when I got it at the LHS, well now they are part of my hobby inventory and will use them for sure.

N8rloves2fly:
I have finished cutting all monokote graphics for my cap, I only need to apply them on the main wing, which I have not started to cover, I found a great looking scheme for a staudacher at the net, here is the pic, I do believe that it requires a lot of work but is a great looking plane, I believe Lanier is still selling this kit.

Thanks and keep posting.

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n8rloves2fly:

You might try an internet search for full scale airplanes, the Extra 330L in my post #31 is a full scale plane.
I found this pic of a 40% cap 232 that looks awesome, but would take awhile to do.

http://www.extraaircraft.com/

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alfredbmor:

Question please, Have you cut out your canopy yet?
I followed all the cut lines, and on the front of the canopy I have about !/2 inch over lay. should this be trimed back farther?
Ive never had one look like this.
Of course this is also my first cap 232 so i know the canopy will be different.

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It happens all time to me, when I cut the canopy by the line it seems that I will need extra material to cover the entire canopy area or I have to trim a little more, so now what I do is to cut the canopy leaving some extra material, about 1/4" extra, then I test and cut repeatedly until I am satisfied with the results, I do not trust the line that comes formed on the canopy because it usually do not correspond with our reality. I think that I will paint a black line on the canopy contour.
I did not advanced to much but I have completed the pull pull installation and now I will have to test it with the receiver, I also finished trimming the stock cowling which I will use before buying the Fiberglass one. I will post photos tomorrow.
Thanks.

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Here they are:

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What did you do with the elevator pushrods since they have to be in the centre too along with the pull pull?

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Looking good Alfredbmor!
What brand of pull pull system are you using?
Id like to move my rudder servo forward and use pull pull , however ive already planned for single servo on elevator.
( mounted up front ) Id also like to make the elevator pull pull.
But then with the throttle servo being where is i have a mounting problem. Any creative ideas?