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Old 02-15-2004 | 03:38 PM
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What's the best brushless setup that I can go with to get long fly times and performence on a 110. The best I've come up with is a hacker c4012s, phoenix 35 esc, and 6cell 3300 mah batteries.
Any better sugestions before I purchase?
Old 02-15-2004 | 09:52 PM
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Hey Coy , looks like a good set-up that Iv'e been very pleased with except for the cell count . The hacker likes lots of power so 7 cells are good and I have found that 8 cells are the sweet spot . You've got a great motor so take advantage of it . I don't have the technical knowledge to tell you why but I know that it works . I use 7 & 8 cell counts of GP300 matched sets from Battlepacks.com , good folks .

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Old 02-16-2004 | 06:47 PM
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Thank's Mando for the info. Going electric is a new deal for me, and I'm trying to get all the info I can in order to get a good setup up front.
The tech at the local hobby shop suggested an Astro brushless, Phoenix 35, and 6 cell 3300 mah (10 to 15 min. flying time). The Astro is unavailable, so the hacker was my choice. Tell me what kind of difference you would expect between a 6 cell and a 8 cell battery pack? And is the ESC I am choosing big enough?
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I am getting 22mins with a mega16/15/3 motor, pheonix25 and a 2s3p etec pack. (7.4v@3600mah)
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From what I read and understand I don't think you would get much of 10 min. on a 6 cell pack .
I've been getting 15-18 min. on the 7 cells . On the 8 cells I get much more power but no notable increase for duration due to the added weight of the additional cell . Keep in mind that I'm using matched cells which seem to make a noticeable difference with duration and pack life .
The Phoenix 35 is a great choice for the configuration you're considering .
Again I'm no techie , but I do know what works for me . I also did a lot of research on these forums to accomplish exactly what your doing now and it payed off for me very well ! I'm just trying to repay the favor and "Pass it on down the line"

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Mando, 8 matched cells sounds like the best choice then, if you think the added weight want lesson any flying characteristics. Is the name brand a concern, or can I get the type that is available?
One more thing, will lmh 9t pinion fit the hacker ( shaft size) without modification?

Mossie, how many cells is this battery? By the volts it sounds like a 6cell.
And how are you getting such long flight times? I've read so much on what everyones using, that I've got to write it all down just to keep the setups straight.
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Yes the LMH pinion fits the Hacker shaft fine . Not sure about brand differintials , but I am using what Steve at www.battlepack.com offers with great communication and service .

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Hi R-coy:

You may find this link interesting regarding the Astro Flite brushless:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Anot...1531461/tm.htm

Also, just for information's sake, I am running 7 cell HR-SC-2600 Sanyo NiMh packs and getting 10 to 11 minute flights With a Hacker C-40-12 ... flawless motor.

Russ
Old 02-17-2004 | 03:23 AM
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R-coy;

Uh ... Ohhh ..... Another one:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_14...tm.htm#1536104

Read post 10 & 16 particularly in this thread,

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Old 02-17-2004 | 05:14 PM
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Thank's everyone for the info.
That's not good news about Astro motor's. From what i understand about Astro, they have entered into a contract with NASA, that's why i couldn't get one.
I have another question, what type/kind of connectors are you using between the battery and ESC? LMH manual say's to change out the stock connectors to a type that will handle the amperage.
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r_coy!

Although others may disagree, the Deans Ultra connectors are really pretty bullet-proof ..... they do, however take a bit of expertise to solder to the leads, but at the end of the day, they are VERY reliable at high current over the long run. One thing is FOR SURE though, the stock "Tamayia" connector that comes with the stock LMH ESC is NOT what you want to run in your setup!!! I don't think anyone will disagree with that.
My suggestion would be, if you are "scared" about soldering, is to order a couple of extra pair of Deans Connectors to "experiment with", and then just do it!

AND, forget about a soldering "gun", OR a Bernz-O-Matic Torch!!! You need a 40 watt soldering IRON with a CHISEL TIP from Radio Shack (or any other vendor), let it get good and hot, keep it clean, and "do your thing"! If you have any questions about soldering, check out the construction / beginner / electric forums and you will get the answers.

Happy "connectoring",

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I'll second that Russ !

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Thanks again guy's! I'll let you know how it all turns out when i get it all together.
Coy R.
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r_coy:

Keep us posted ....

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Mando:

Thanks for your feedback!!

Russ

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