I am waiting for any news about the Superman Jet rally. before I commit to buying a plane ticket and hotel reservations etc. Please post some news or updates here.

P. Richards aka Swat Team[X(]

I thought that they had already announced that Superman was a go, but this was on the Pro-mark website:

I Heard last night that they didnt know if he was going to be able to or not... But don't hold me to anything!

His grand daughter said that they didnt know either... i'll try and find out.. now where'd I put that number

Jerry does not yet have WRITTEN approval from the FAA in hand. He plans to post on the official site or BVM site as soon as he does. Until then, it's not final either way. This is "directly" from him, NO ASSUMPTIONS OR RUMOR.

David S

THis was going to be my first year at Superman. I sure hope it is able ot happen. I was glad to see I was not the only one waiting to make plans.

Dave

In years past did Jerry get written approval each year? If so this year should be no different, the same GADO should sign off.
If written approval has never been requested nor granted it would surprise me if written approval will ever be granted.
I think Jerry should look into closing the airport for some sort of maintenance for the week! Just request the Notam for the maintenance closure thereby letting the FAA off the hook so to speak! Send someone out to fix something minor each day per work schedule of course far down at the end of the runway out of our way
Lee H. DeMary
AMA 36099

Sorry Lee.. there's new rules in place.

The FAA is being pretty hard-ass about allowing airports who receive federal assistance or funding to shut down runways for non-General Aviation related events.

A notable US Senator from Missouri tried to no avail to help procure location for ‘05 Ozark Mnt Jets but FAA denied his request.
Sullivan Missouri Chamber of Commerce and the City of Sullivan Missouri also tried to no avail.

If they deny a US Senator’s request, I wonder how somebody else or town could convince FAA otherwise.

Only time will tell.

Actually until we hear otherwise, its definite that SM is NOT happening. It would be more accurate to say that SM is off UNLESS the FAA gives approval.

I plan for Superman 12 months in advance. I am traveling 4500 miles to have fun with my buds and fly r/c jets at a jet meet somewhere in Illinois (or the vicinity) during the last week of September, come hell, the FAA, or high water. [sm=punching.gif]

My suggestion; let the pro's do their job and organize the meet, where ever it might actually be located, and everyone else cool your jets and wait until Jerry officially publishes what he's arranged. Sound reasonable?

All this rumor and theory flinging does nothing but make me want to quit the hobby....or at least quit this forum, or move to Australia where their government hasn't yet seen the inherent evil of law abiding citizens holding R/C jet meets. Tirade over....see you at Superman.....Aloha,

Woody.

I know.... but do a governmental end run..... runways are always being closed for maintenance why not Superman week? There is always a way around governmental red tape!
Lee

ironic how in our "free" country , we seem to be loosing our freedoms faster than most others ... [>:]..


Wotjek

I had to agree to this one.

I guess I still wonder what the inspiration was for this new stance from the FAA? Why did they suddenly get involved like this?

Doug wrote:

<<<I guess I still wonder what the inspiration was for this new stance from the FAA? Why did they suddenly get involved like this? >>>

wasn`t it this:
A notable US Senator from Missouri tried to no avail to help procure location for ‘05 Ozark Mnt Jets but FAA denied his request.
Sullivan Missouri Chamber of Commerce and the City of Sullivan Missouri also tried to no avail.

V..

I think Doug means in a bigger picture. Why all the sudden cracking down on airports that host events?? I'm not sure what the catalyst was, but must have been big.

How are the Reno Air Races using a runway??? And what's the difference? I mean, can I fly a cessna into their airport during the event?

Simply put......"It's all about the Benjamins" [:@]

Im not sure if you know Sean, but there are actual pilots inside the reno racers. these are not RC, and not under the AMA. I think the AMA would require a special permit to fly one of those RC .. I personally would not trust my 10X or 9Z flyin one of those ...


Wojtek

I meant a Full Scale Cessna, is the airport closed for me to fly in. If it is, then how is their event different from ours?

Despite all the valiant efforts by TORKS and the city of Columbus Ohio, HOH ’05 was moved to TORKS field because FAA denied their applications. http://www.torks.com/JetScramble/200...A%20letter.pdf

Again, I wonder why Superman would be an exception, but only time will tell.

Sean, i was just being sarcastic there .. ....

basically anything relating to full scale airplanes falls under the FAA .... they consider that "aeronautical" .. anything else acording to them is not ....

From what I know, a town and airport were denied their request to close an airport, which is a small airport with little traffic, for a jet event which had been previously held there with no problems. The local FAA official turned down their request, from what I was told probably due to one full scale pilot who complained that he was inconvienced.
The town officials spoke to the locally based U.S Senator who made some inquiries. Those inquiries were met with some resistance from the local FAA official and it was bumped up the chain.
In my opinion the town officials had every right to question the decision made by the local FAA person since events such as this are held all over the U.S with no problems whatsoever. Like MArk said it is all about the Benjamins, and whose palm is greased where.
The AMA was brought into the Sullivan problem very early from what I was told, but did NOTHING according to my sources until it was already too late. They are caught now trying to put out a fire which in all likelihood will cost us many fly-ins throughout the US. I am sincerely hoping that SM makes it thru this turmoil, since I love that event and plan on being there. Right now I am very pessimistic. If the FAA truly plans to uniformly enforce the rules, as they are written, there is no way that the Superman site can hold the event. The real test is to see if they are really interested in uniformly enforcing these stupid regulations.
The town of Metropolis will have a lot to lose in losing this event, since the impact from the jet events can be very good for small towns (ie, Metropolis, Sulllivan, Bardstown).
Tommy

Hmmmmmmm, I thought you were talking about me. (lol and pun intended)

Best Regards

Benjamin

I hope this all gets worked out soon! I know that there are many people traveling thousands of miles round trip paying over $3.00 per gallon to get to this show. It would be a shame that if when they got arrived there was either: (A) a closed jet show, or (B) a jet show that had nobody there because everyone stayed home anticipating the closure! Either way, I hope it works out for the best. I have never been, but the reputation of this Super event makes me check my schedule to see if I can someday get there. Im sure that Jerry will let everyone know ASAFP....the question is: Will it be in time?

Best of luck,
Dave

Your right, ghost rider, it is all about you.... Repeat after me.....I blame myself, I blame myself.
It works, it got me thru 19 years of marriage so far...
TOmmy