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Old 10-01-2008 | 10:24 AM
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hey guys,

I am planning (when finances allow) to build a super pershing out of a HL pershing (obviously 1:16!! )

I am going to be rid of the bb gun, and planning on moving switches changing speaker ect.

I can make the extra armour and parts except the barrel (as thats go to be smooth) so i have a few questions:-

[ul][*] Does anybody know where i can get (prefurably in the UK) a super pershing full length and correct scale size barrel?[*] Does anybody know where i can get (prefurably in the UK) a HL pershing with metal gears and drive wheels (dont mind about tracks) with a complusory RX14 board in case in the future i want to go with El-mod?[*] Where i can get the plastic to cut the extra armour and bits out from where i can get it (prefurably in the UK)
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thanks ALOT guys, if i can get these answered im well away!!!

cheers, and thanks in advance,

Matt
Old 10-01-2008 | 10:40 AM
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get me the dimensions and I can cut you one on my lathe and send it out to you gun barrel that is
Old 10-01-2008 | 11:42 AM
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whoa!! thanks for the quick response!! i will try to find the dimensions, but wouldnt i still need a muzzle break and its going to have re-caoil and a flash unit so hollow aswell? is that possible?? even with the beggining of it slightly bigger i think? and from canada to UK i would pay for it and shipping?

thanks for the offer mate

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Old 10-01-2008 | 12:08 PM
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Here is a link to another person who made a super pershing and what he used for the gun barrel and other stuff .

http://www.customrcmodels.com/Tanks/id74.htm

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Old 10-01-2008 | 12:23 PM
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wow cool thanks bowlman!! im not to sure about re-modeling the gun though ... with alot of effort mabe,, but i still dont know what to use for the extra armour

thanks anyway, thats one nice super pershing!!

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Old 10-01-2008 | 01:41 PM
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here is a model site that has some pics of a real super pershing .

http://www.militarymodelling.com/new...le/mps/uan/792

you can use evergreen scale models sheet styrene and styrene tube and other shapes there is a conversion kit out there for a 1/35th model conversion of the m26 pershing to super pershing but have not found it yet .

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found it here is the conversion kit in 1/35th if you want it you would have to scale up but will see what it looks like .

http://www.accurate-armour.com/ShowP...manufacturer=0

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Old 10-01-2008 | 02:04 PM
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thanks, whoa the barrel on that things a beast!! but can you actually buy a super pershing barrel??

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as far as I know you cant buy one but you can use a KT barrel it may need to be worked down some .

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matt i have scale drawings of the super pershing pm me your address and i will post them to you

the barrel should be 32 cm with the muzzle brake from the mantlet heres a pic of my rebuild so far
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whoa!! thanks for the quick response!! i will try to find the dimensions, but wouldnt i still need a muzzle break and its going to have re-caoil and a flash unit so hollow aswell? is that possible?? even with the beggining of it slightly bigger i think? and from canada to UK i would pay for it and shipping?

thanks for the offer mate

cheers,

Matt

I make all my own barrels on my lathe as long as I have the dimentions I can do it I use barrel stock I had made for barrels so they all have the holes though them make sure I have a pic and dimentions for the recoil attaching point so I can machine it corectly here is a KT barrel I made recently
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Old 10-01-2008 | 04:13 PM
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here are 2 pics I found of the super pershing
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Old 10-01-2008 | 04:25 PM
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for the extra armour use 80 thoughsants evergreen styreen stock easy to glue and sturdy and with a small tip soldering gun easy to make the weld marks
Old 10-01-2008 | 04:29 PM
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For the gun tube, (Army terminology= tube.) use another Pershing gun, cut the tube right at the muzzle brake and the added section just where it starts to expand, and it'll be right on. (or very close) Pull the metal BB tube out a couple inches and slide the new piece right on. All that is needed is a little finesse in filling/sanding the crack. My Super P gun is 30 cm. If Septon can make one...great!

Added armor, you can make from sheet styrene....surely someone in UK carries it. Use the photos from Dick Hunnicutt's book Pershing. Also need to convert the loader's hatch to a round "finger chopper" split hatch. I used an old Tamiya Sherman turret and simply cut out the hatch and made a round hole in the turret for it. You absolutely need the T-81 track....the standard track just doesn't look right. [:'(]

Work the front suspension to sag a bit at the front. The added armor on the 2 supers that were in Germany was really hard on wheel bearings and shocks. I added a screw and blocked the suspension from raising all the way. Good luck. Lotsa work[>:]
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Old 10-01-2008 | 04:32 PM
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wow thanks bubbajoexx, great help!!
Old 10-01-2008 | 04:36 PM
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Hi Septon
Is that the bic barrel, why don,t you and Matt get our friend in Canada
to make two and post to one of you and then sort it out over here!.
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wow thanks bubbajoexx, great help!!

if you need the styreen I have some here I can send you a chunk 8X8 inches no charge
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You right Bill they must use the right tracks,T81
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not a bad idea just fitted a new pen to make the barrel the right length
Old 10-01-2008 | 05:14 PM
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and pattoncommander, thanks for the advice, i dont know where i can get the plastic needed, and about the gun, isnt the HL barrel too wide? so why extend a faulse scale barrel?? and is the super pershing in your pictures a HL or tamiya, and about the turret hatch i cant get one from a sherman, as i dont have one let alone a spare!! also im a bit stupid so i didnt fully get the brrel lengthening part!!

thanks anyway pattoncommander, your advice is much appretiated!

thanks,

Matt
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tankzone has the hatch that what im useing on my one
Old 10-01-2008 | 05:22 PM
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Hi Septon
Is that the bic barrel, why don,t you and Matt get our friend in Canada
to make two and post to one of you and then sort it out over here!.
Flesh.....................
hmmm, thats sounds like an idea!!

thanks, what do you think septon or are you happy with your job??

cheers,

Matt
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as septon said on the hatch check here http://www.tankzone.co.uk/cart/tam_m4.htm

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thanks fv432!


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