A-10 Convert Kit (brushless bada**)
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A-10 Convert Kit (brushless bada**)
Hey, why not offer complete brushless upgrade kits for your A-10 Model???
I'm sure there'd be a few here that'd order since the "bananas" are taking pre-orders for an upgraded version. beat'em to the punch by offering a "upgrade package" sold separate from the plane kit that has everything needed to make this VERY important conversion!
Include:
18A ESC Brushless (2)
Lipo 11.1V
Brushless Motors that fit the exsisting nacelles
Upgraded shafts (required)
and all wiring (if needed)
(maybe even piano wire landing gear instead of the softy's included)
Box it..and ship it...done!
I'm sure there'd be a few here that'd order since the "bananas" are taking pre-orders for an upgraded version. beat'em to the punch by offering a "upgrade package" sold separate from the plane kit that has everything needed to make this VERY important conversion!
Include:
18A ESC Brushless (2)
Lipo 11.1V
Brushless Motors that fit the exsisting nacelles
Upgraded shafts (required)
and all wiring (if needed)
(maybe even piano wire landing gear instead of the softy's included)
Box it..and ship it...done!
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RE: Hey Nitroplanes Why Not???
Thanks and we are working on that. I realized couple month ago that many customer are modifying the A10 to burshless system. We are working to on a V2 that's RTF with brushless system.
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RE: Hey Nitroplanes Why Not???
ORIGINAL: nitrostaff1
Thanks and we are working on that. I realized couple month ago that many customer are modifying the A10 to burshless system. We are working to on a V2 that's RTF with brushless system.
John
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Thanks and we are working on that. I realized couple month ago that many customer are modifying the A10 to burshless system. We are working to on a V2 that's RTF with brushless system.
John
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Ok, thats kool..but for us that already own the kit.. an upgrade pack would kick butt!
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RE: Hey Nitroplanes Why Not???
ESC: 2X Hobbywing 18amp Brushless ESC
Battery: 1800mah 3 Cell 11.1V 15C Lithium Polymer Battery
Whatever will match the above! (Bananahobby specs)
Opinions on motors vary: Here is some posts of modified ones to help:
and another fellow:
Here is the thread where you competition is starting to take the lead on the A-10 Project AND getting positive feedback from the members here!
[link=http://www.bananahobby.com/1745.html]Banana's Plane with Video[/link]
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7077307/tm.htm]Link to A-10 Thread READ ALL!![/link]
Battery: 1800mah 3 Cell 11.1V 15C Lithium Polymer Battery
Whatever will match the above! (Bananahobby specs)
Opinions on motors vary: Here is some posts of modified ones to help:
I finally was able to get a video of my A-10.
Again, the configuration here is two 4400KV motors with 20 amp ESCs, GWS 55mm rotors and powered by two TP 1320 mah 3S batteries, each connected to one of the ESCs. The throttle endpoint was adjusted to limit the maximum current to 16.5 amps per motor. Flying weight is 26 oz. The video is about 2 minutes edited from the full flight that was about 4 minutes long (including takeoff and landing taxi time) and took about 500mah from the batteries that were slightly warm after the flight.
To view the video click on the link below.
http://www.vimeo.com/1597658/l:transcoded_email
< Message edited by aginzu 8/25/2008 7:51:40 AM >
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The parts from Hong Kong arrived, including two each 4400 KV motors and 20A ESCs. The only problem I had installing the motors with the GWS adapters and fans was that the fans are very tight on the adapter shafts. I can't push them on far enough for the front screw to engage. I wonder if it needs the screw for security or if the fit is so tight that it is not needed. Does anyone have a trick for getting these all the way on?
In any case, I ran one of the motors on a 3S 2100 battery (the $20 one from Hong Kong) and it pulled 25 amps and produced an insane amount of thrust. I didn't measure it, but two of these will make the A-10 go like a rocket. I suspect it would fly just fine on one. Now I need to decide on the battery setup. I can either run my existing TP 1320's at partial throttle to keep the current below the battery 17 amp limit, get two 1300 20C 3S batteries, get a single 2500 20C battery, use the A123 cells as others have done, or go to some kind of two cell setup. Any suggestions? Is anyone else using the 4400KV motors on 3S LiPOs in this plane?
Again, the configuration here is two 4400KV motors with 20 amp ESCs, GWS 55mm rotors and powered by two TP 1320 mah 3S batteries, each connected to one of the ESCs. The throttle endpoint was adjusted to limit the maximum current to 16.5 amps per motor. Flying weight is 26 oz. The video is about 2 minutes edited from the full flight that was about 4 minutes long (including takeoff and landing taxi time) and took about 500mah from the batteries that were slightly warm after the flight.
To view the video click on the link below.
http://www.vimeo.com/1597658/l:transcoded_email
< Message edited by aginzu 8/25/2008 7:51:40 AM >
and same member said:
The parts from Hong Kong arrived, including two each 4400 KV motors and 20A ESCs. The only problem I had installing the motors with the GWS adapters and fans was that the fans are very tight on the adapter shafts. I can't push them on far enough for the front screw to engage. I wonder if it needs the screw for security or if the fit is so tight that it is not needed. Does anyone have a trick for getting these all the way on?
In any case, I ran one of the motors on a 3S 2100 battery (the $20 one from Hong Kong) and it pulled 25 amps and produced an insane amount of thrust. I didn't measure it, but two of these will make the A-10 go like a rocket. I suspect it would fly just fine on one. Now I need to decide on the battery setup. I can either run my existing TP 1320's at partial throttle to keep the current below the battery 17 amp limit, get two 1300 20C 3S batteries, get a single 2500 20C battery, use the A123 cells as others have done, or go to some kind of two cell setup. Any suggestions? Is anyone else using the 4400KV motors on 3S LiPOs in this plane?
RysiuM
:This will easy supply my 4040 motor
:This will easy supply my 4040 motor
[link=http://www.bananahobby.com/1745.html]Banana's Plane with Video[/link]
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7077307/tm.htm]Link to A-10 Thread READ ALL!![/link]
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RE: Hey Nitroplanes Why Not???
would you like to do some testing for me? let me know. here's a list of motor we have http://www.nitroplanes.com/exrcbrmo.html
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RE: Hey Nitroplanes Why Not???
Sure... I'm willing to. I just saw in another forum that almost EVERY a-10 reference is labeled "nitro" so fixes on this would work for the masses if priced right.
PM me to discuss the how,who,what,where, and when.
Looks like you have some candidates there.. 2.3 mm shaft is where we have to stay.
PM me to discuss the how,who,what,where, and when.
Looks like you have some candidates there.. 2.3 mm shaft is where we have to stay.
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RE: A-10 Convert Kit (brushless bada**)
I recently purchase 2 A10 nitro models. Could someone please tell me what brushless motors will fit into the cowling and which esc to use with them. I could really use some help
Thanks.
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RE: A-10 Convert Kit (brushless bada**)
ORIGINAL: Flexserve
Ok here is a stock config:
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...49&pid=U834468 <== these motors fit STOCK
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...5&pid=B3905413 <== Replace impeller hub
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...5&pid=NGWSV010 <== Replace Impeller
http://www.nitroplanes.com/10b12-74v15c1300mah.html <== Batteries (you need 2)
http://www.nitroplanes.com/40aelbrspcoe.html <== ESC 25 Amp (need 2)
Done. Mine Flies like a dream
You can fit most 20mm motors of choice with this into the A-10 stock ducting:
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...69&pid=V743117
Just keep a motor with a 2mm shaft and 24mm and under case size (diameter)..also KV rating of 4000kv and higher
Fastest way is to throw 2 esc in fuselage under where wings connect, replace the nacelles with modified ones, throw 2 batteries in box and done
1 battery per esc (or in other words 1 battery per motor)!!! dont wire batteries together!
Ok here is a stock config:
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...49&pid=U834468 <== these motors fit STOCK
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...5&pid=B3905413 <== Replace impeller hub
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...5&pid=NGWSV010 <== Replace Impeller
http://www.nitroplanes.com/10b12-74v15c1300mah.html <== Batteries (you need 2)
http://www.nitroplanes.com/40aelbrspcoe.html <== ESC 25 Amp (need 2)
Done. Mine Flies like a dream
You can fit most 20mm motors of choice with this into the A-10 stock ducting:
http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...69&pid=V743117
Just keep a motor with a 2mm shaft and 24mm and under case size (diameter)..also KV rating of 4000kv and higher
Fastest way is to throw 2 esc in fuselage under where wings connect, replace the nacelles with modified ones, throw 2 batteries in box and done
1 battery per esc (or in other words 1 battery per motor)!!! dont wire batteries together!