Ok so I've benn flying for sometime now and am wanting a plane with more aerobatics, realism looks, etc.. than my slow-stick. I'm looking for a plane, either a warbird looking plane or airliner.... I have eletronics already but rtf or arf are both fine. I just need your advice on a next step up on a plane.... Questions, comments, etc. welcomed.

Thanks!

Im not sure that its wise to move up from a slow stick to a warbird. Why dont you give the parkflyers cessna a go. Its pretty scale looking and has a decent power range.

If you want to make a gentle move up, check out the HobbyZone SuperCub. If you want a bigger jump, check out the ParkZone Stryker.

The ParkFlyers Cessna has mixed reviews. Some people love this plane, while others have found it to be so underpowered that it barely takes off. Also, practically everyone agrees that its electronics are horrible and need to be replaced right away.

I've been looking at the hobbyzone super cub.... I've heard great reviews on it. Now for the pz f-27 stryker isn't that a fast flying model? (I don't have the biggest area to fly at). Also keep in mind I'm not only looking for rtf, I'm actually prefering arf.

If you want to go with an RTF and not buy separate electronics, then I would go with the SuperCub. If you are going to buy separate electronics, then I would go with the ParkFlyers Cessna, you can buy all the parts for around $80 and pick up some of the stuff at your local hobby store. I bought the ParkFlyers Cessna, flew it once with the stock electronics and immediately replaced everything before flying again, it went up 10' and I lost all control. Now, it does barrel rolls, loops and is a blast to fly. The benefit of going this way is you have reliable electronics that you can use for planes down the road, if you go with a Futaba 6EX-PCM or equivalent, and you can put a slightly better 480 motor in it, and something other than the stock battery and these two things make all the difference in the world. You could even go brushless, which would make this plane into an airshow acrobat

Evader, all the above suggestions are good ones as I feel this one is, I have the GWS E-Starter and Formosa, both are excellent planes
The Formosa is much faster than the E-Starter but is fairly easy to fly, I would recomend the ES to anyone ready to make the move from a slow stick or slo v as it is a good aileron trainer and a very well behaved flyer. It is capable of some nice aerobatics as well
before I went brushless with mine I could pull nice big loops and nice rolls(not axial) it floats like a slow stick or flys fast, it can be flown in small spaces because it is well behaved and handles wind fairly well. can't go wrong with it, the formosa is just plane good fun and also behaves well but is much faster and requires a little more skill to handle. both of these planes can be brought down to walking speed and land smoothly without worry of stalling
Good luck with whatever you decide to get

Hey I just came across the cox warbirds.... How are those?

There is a thread dedicated to them, good reveiws but they are small and most likely a handfull. If your leaning toward warbirds look into the corsair, I understand it is one of the better flyers of the low wing warbirds You have to keep in mind your not just moving forward with a warbird but taking a big step, I would suggest a aileron trainer first, with the warbirds your going to get ailerons and a plane that goes the direction you point it, no self correcting effect, this in itself is a handfull to learn then you have the stall rates that are usualy high with the low wing planes, meaning no slow gliding to a landing. you need to come in with some speed to prevent tip stalling or just flat out stalling, also the warbirds will require a much faster speed at all times than your used to

You might even like the Mini Ultra Stick. It is a great flying plane and if you tone down the throws it is pretty stable. I have a lot of fun with mine.

If you are really hooked on a "Warbird" take a look at the E-Flite P-47 Thunderbolt. Great plane.

I like the e flite p-47. How big of an area does it take to fly at? And wich corsair would you suggest AJ1202? The GWS, or....??

A warbird may be more of a change than you want. I would suggest a foamie and set it up with dual rates. Almost everyone at our field has one , You can prop them fast and huge throws and it will chase it's tail , hover etc. not to mention that if it gets banged up a little hot glue and your back up again. Mine is a blueboard homade foamie copy or an extreme foamie. with a Eflite 450 , a Thunder power 2000mah and a 11 5.5 prop and it will fly in 10 to 12 mile an hour wind

Wow that sounds interesting... What foamies would you suggest for me?

You will need an area as long as a football field and a little wider. So maybe 100yds plus long by 75 yards plus wide or so. That is if you can control it pretty well. The bigger the space the better obviously. I personally stay away from the flat style foamies, I prefer to have a "full bodied" plane so to speak

If you think you are going to transition from a Slo-V or slow stick to a warbird or 3D fomie forget it . they require a lot more skill and stick time . Learn how to fly an ail. plane first , it's much different then a sl st . You might just want to look at the www.mountainmodles.com Magpie you can get it with both wings,one is trainer wing the other wing is sport wing with ail. It's also a big airplane so you can see it and more important what it's doing . It's just my 2 cents.

I agree completely about staying away from the flat foamy for now, they can be a major handfull and are not designed to fly without power, most of them won't deadstick very well, some do OK but not a good idea, I still say the E-Starter would be a good move, it has a lot to offer, of course the magpie is an excellent choice as well, I understand the E fliht P-47 is a good plane and can fly slow, I don't know your skill level so I would still be leary to suggest it, the GWS corsair is inexpensive as a slope glider version and flys well, if you bang it up while learning the loss is not so great, however if it gets too difficult you may get discuraged, Go with a good high wing aileron trainer and you won't regret it. I went to a low wing before I was ready and trashed a 150 dollar plane in 3 flights [&o]. Just trying to save you the same mistake, ultimatly it's your decision so soak in the suggestions given hear and read info in threads on the planes your interested in and learn about them before you buy

All right thanks for the info... I found this plane http://hobby-lobby.com/eindecker.htm , it has ailerons and low-wing but for novice flyers. Or I also like these dual ebgine planes (I'm guessing there much harder to fly to) It's a highwing and for begginers to intermediate http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHTM9&P=0.

Evader, don't get the twin E-Starter, I have heard a lot of bad things about it, I read up on it and it got a lot of bad reviews
I had a Fokker but it wasn't aileron, It flew great but was too light and was a floater, kind of like a mini slow stick, that one looks much better, might be a good flyer

Definitely stay away from the E-Starter. The Fokker is basically what you have now with ailerons, take a look at some of these:

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/De...ProdID=EFL2200

http://www.parkflyers.com/html/cessna_182.html (not the RTF version, buy the parts separately)

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/cessna182.htm

These are all foam planes, so if you crash, most of the time you can just glue the foam back in place. I actually have the ParkFlyers Cessna and highly recommend it, just don't get the RTF version, the electronics are terrible.

I really like the e-flite cessna. Yet every time a take a look at the cox warbirds I get even more tempted to buy one. Does the difficulty of a low wing war-bird carry on to these little birds too? Yet if you would reccomend a cox warbird wich would it be? http://www.coxmodels.com/products.asp?dept=80 I'm sure the stock radio that comes with it isn't very good.....(wich I could always get arf).

Where could I buy the e-flite cessna at? I can't seem to find it.

The Cox Warbirds are tiny little things, under a 21" wingspan I believe, vs. a 38" wingspan on the Cessna. The Cox Warbirds will be very hard to control just because they are tiny, not to mention the fact that they are low/mid wing planes and will take a lot of getting used to. The biggest difference is that a high/top wing plane is self-correcting, which means if you let off of the ailerons it will straighten itself out, the low/mid. wing planes are not, you have to constantly be on the sticks, and if you are not use to ailerons, it could be a be challenge to take on. I would say go with the E-Flite Cessna, it is meant to go brushless so it will have plenty of power, and the LiPo's are lighter and pack more of a punch than the NiMh's. Here is a link for the Cessna as far as where to buy it:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2200

Ok so maybe this will help..... It seems like a few of you are wondering my past experience on flying. I started out with an aerobird extreme..... Got the hang of that then moved up to a wattage cessna 180 rtf. It was a much different flyer than the aerobird extreme but I got the hang of the cessna to. Then I'm up to where I'm at now wich is the gws slow-stick. Maybe that will help a little.

Ya, that would have helped a little I take it the Wattage Cessna was a 3 channel? So maybe the move to the E-Flite Cessna that is 4 channel would be wise, due to the fact that you are familiar with the general handling capabilities of the Cessna as a plane. That should make getting use to ailerons easier. If the Wattage was a 4 channel, then go for the warbird, make the move up, E-Flite P-47 Thunderbolt.

If you can handle an ABX you can definately handle that P-47. I went from an ABC to a Stryker so I say go for it. You've got all of the experience you'll need. Ailerons aren't hard, believe me. I find them easier than rudder.

I was also looking into the Cessna 182 from Eflite, but the reviews don't look very well on another forum I saw. Any experiences with this plane anyone??