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Slo-V
How is the pz slo-v? Approx how fast. I think im going to get one bet im not sure yet. Has anyone flown one. How do they respond. Is it more of a beginner plane or more advanced?
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08-22-2007, 03:37 AM
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Intermediate, The trips for part will frustrate you enough maybe to not pursue the hobby. Its a great/fun plane, but not to learn on.
There is another thread that is devoted to the Slo-V
Check out the Hobby Zone Super Cub. Takes a beating, great for learning.
There is another thread that is devoted to the Slo-V
Check out the Hobby Zone Super Cub. Takes a beating, great for learning.
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RE: Slo-V
Hi Dude,
Welcome to RC flying!
The Slow-V is a very nice beginner plane due to its slow flying capability. Last summer, after making the mistake of getting the Firebird Freedom for my son to learn to fly with, I then got him the Slow-V. He learned on his own with no problems. I would agree that the plane is a little more fragile than I would have liked, but it flies very nicely once you get it trimmed out. It also requires less space than most other beginner planes due to its slow speed. If you intend to get one, get the optional 7-cell battery right away, set the wing to the forward position and set the transmitter to the high rate setting right away. The low rate setting just doesn't give you enough control of the plane and the stock battery doesn't give you enougfh power to get out of some tricky situations.
HOWEVER, when I bought him the Slow-V, the SuperCub had not been available yet. If I was to buy him a beginner plane today, there is absolutely no doubt that I would buy him the SuperCub. It is a much, much better plane. Easier to learn how to fly, much more damage resistant, and yet with a lot more power for fun as you get better.
Welcome to RC flying!
The Slow-V is a very nice beginner plane due to its slow flying capability. Last summer, after making the mistake of getting the Firebird Freedom for my son to learn to fly with, I then got him the Slow-V. He learned on his own with no problems. I would agree that the plane is a little more fragile than I would have liked, but it flies very nicely once you get it trimmed out. It also requires less space than most other beginner planes due to its slow speed. If you intend to get one, get the optional 7-cell battery right away, set the wing to the forward position and set the transmitter to the high rate setting right away. The low rate setting just doesn't give you enough control of the plane and the stock battery doesn't give you enougfh power to get out of some tricky situations.
HOWEVER, when I bought him the Slow-V, the SuperCub had not been available yet. If I was to buy him a beginner plane today, there is absolutely no doubt that I would buy him the SuperCub. It is a much, much better plane. Easier to learn how to fly, much more damage resistant, and yet with a lot more power for fun as you get better.
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I have both the SuperCub and Slo-V planes as my beginner planes and both are great. I think that the Slo is a great beginner plane, but I would recommed the SuperCub because you can fly in windier situations that the Slo-V and that give you more experience, more chances to fly, and practice in less than ideal conditions. the SuperCub is a LOT faster though, so be sure to have a very large open area with no obstructions until he gets comfortable enough to fly it from smaller fields. Also, change out the stock SuperCub wheels. I use 1.5" for the main gear and 1" for the tail. This will make takeoffs and landings MUCH, MUCH easier and less stressful. the stock main and tail wheels are way too small for anything but paved areas.
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RE: Slo-V
Just so u guys know, im not a complete beginner. I have about a year experience with rc planes. I have a Pitts 3D brushless and a 3D profile plane. I just wanted to know your opinions because i might get one for a funflier. Im not a newb. OK. Can i do harriers with the slo-v. I can do them with my 3D profile. I can also do split x, rolls, loops, harriers and waterfalls.
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08-22-2007, 12:59 PM
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dude,
I think beginner and learner get crossed. "Slow" is misleading to people new to the hobby. As you understand already from your experience........It takes a while to really understand things like wing loading and air speed vs ground speed.
Most of these park flyers are being bought off the shelf by people who are going to teach themselves. Who wants to join a club when you can just go to you neighborhood park or school yard and do it yourself? So many people (including me) learn without the aid of people with experience. As frustrating at times this can be (all the crashes), it still beats having to find a club or field and scheduling time to learn. It's just too easy to go 400 yards down the block and fly at the school yard when ever I feel like it and it is very easy for the entry level to just open the box and go.
For the Slo-V, even with the battery upgrade the acrobatics are very limited. The wings like to shake/flex plenty when I take it inverted. You should probably look at the GWS slow stick where you can select the motor you want to do the flying you desire.
I bought a Slo-v because I did not have a radio and I was not ready for that investment. Now that I have a radio I am not looking at parkzone/hobbyzone products as I increase my hangar. (With the exception of the Centurion).
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I think beginner and learner get crossed. "Slow" is misleading to people new to the hobby. As you understand already from your experience........It takes a while to really understand things like wing loading and air speed vs ground speed.
Most of these park flyers are being bought off the shelf by people who are going to teach themselves. Who wants to join a club when you can just go to you neighborhood park or school yard and do it yourself? So many people (including me) learn without the aid of people with experience. As frustrating at times this can be (all the crashes), it still beats having to find a club or field and scheduling time to learn. It's just too easy to go 400 yards down the block and fly at the school yard when ever I feel like it and it is very easy for the entry level to just open the box and go.
For the Slo-V, even with the battery upgrade the acrobatics are very limited. The wings like to shake/flex plenty when I take it inverted. You should probably look at the GWS slow stick where you can select the motor you want to do the flying you desire.
I bought a Slo-v because I did not have a radio and I was not ready for that investment. Now that I have a radio I am not looking at parkzone/hobbyzone products as I increase my hangar. (With the exception of the Centurion).
-Ted
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I agree with tmackel. If you have radio gear already and want a more capable slow flyer then get a Slow-Stick with a brushless motor and Lipo. Or just buy the parts to assemble a Slo-V and go BL/LiPo. Then you can slowly circle the field or go vertical and harrier. As inexpensive as BL motors are now there is little reason not to use one. I learned on a Slo-V and still love it stock with the night flight module on it. But I am now looking at replacing it since my second fuse is cracked and the electronics are fried and I am on my 4th motor.
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RE: Slo-V
ORIGINAL: tmackel
Intermediate, The trips for part will frustrate you enough maybe to not pursue the hobby. Its a great/fun plane, but not to learn on.
There is another thread that is devoted to the Slo-V
Check out the Hobby Zone Super Cub. Takes a beating, great for learning.
Intermediate, The trips for part will frustrate you enough maybe to not pursue the hobby. Its a great/fun plane, but not to learn on.
There is another thread that is devoted to the Slo-V
Check out the Hobby Zone Super Cub. Takes a beating, great for learning.
The Slo V is NOT a beginner plane. Ask me how I know! I broke the engine mount. I learned on the T-Hawk.
This is me last year after 3 attempts, not too bad!
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h1..._Hawk_01-1.flv
I recommend a Super Cub or T-Hawk or Wing Dragon.
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The Slo V is NOT a beginner plane. Ask me how I know! I broke the engine mount. I learned on the T-Hawk.
This is me last year after 3 attempts, not too bad!
I recommend a Super Cub or T-Hawk or Wing Dragon.
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The Slo V is NOT a beginner plane. Ask me how I know! I broke the engine mount. I learned on the T-Hawk.
This is me last year after 3 attempts, not too bad!
I recommend a Super Cub or T-Hawk or Wing Dragon.
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08-24-2007, 05:04 PM
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The Slo-V is selling for $99.00 around here. That is everything you need to fly radio included. beginers tend to buy these panes and are not the first people to think about changing out the motor nor the battery pack. The plane in stock configuration is stall prone for new flyers. It is very fragile and sure landings are not too bad if it is calm.
My brother has a pilots license, flys regularly. He has no RC flying experience. I had my Slo-v up at 25 feet and handed him the controls. It took him about 30 seconds to lose altitude stall and lawn dart the plane (another snapped fuselage). My son wouldn't touch the plane until three weeks ago, because of all the broken part we have replaced. He would only fly our super cub.
If I put a brushless on my Slo-v it would be a completely different plane........but then again I still don't see beginning flyers rushing out to do this type of mod. You are now proclaiming the preformance of the plane with a brushless, when someone is only going to have the plane in stock config?
My brother has a pilots license, flys regularly. He has no RC flying experience. I had my Slo-v up at 25 feet and handed him the controls. It took him about 30 seconds to lose altitude stall and lawn dart the plane (another snapped fuselage). My son wouldn't touch the plane until three weeks ago, because of all the broken part we have replaced. He would only fly our super cub.
If I put a brushless on my Slo-v it would be a completely different plane........but then again I still don't see beginning flyers rushing out to do this type of mod. You are now proclaiming the preformance of the plane with a brushless, when someone is only going to have the plane in stock config?
08-25-2007, 11:10 AM
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I had a SloV and kept destroying the frame. I have now gone to the Bug as a park flyer and the IFO for a little wild action. The Bug is a great, durable park flyer that will work in my yard as well.
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The Slo-V is selling for $99.00 around here. That is everything you need to fly radio included. beginers tend to buy these panes and are not the first people to think about changing out the motor nor the battery pack. The plane in stock configuration is stall prone for new flyers. It is very fragile and sure landings are not too bad if it is calm.
My brother has a pilots license, flys regularly. He has no RC flying experience. I had my Slo-v up at 25 feet and handed him the controls. It took him about 30 seconds to lose altitude stall and lawn dart the plane (another snapped fuselage). My son wouldn't touch the plane until three weeks ago, because of all the broken part we have replaced. He would only fly our super cub.
If I put a brushless on my Slo-v it would be a completely different plane........but then again I still don't see beginning flyers rushing out to do this type of mod. You are now proclaiming the preformance of the plane with a brushless, when someone is only going to have the plane in stock config?
The Slo-V is selling for $99.00 around here. That is everything you need to fly radio included. beginers tend to buy these panes and are not the first people to think about changing out the motor nor the battery pack. The plane in stock configuration is stall prone for new flyers. It is very fragile and sure landings are not too bad if it is calm.
My brother has a pilots license, flys regularly. He has no RC flying experience. I had my Slo-v up at 25 feet and handed him the controls. It took him about 30 seconds to lose altitude stall and lawn dart the plane (another snapped fuselage). My son wouldn't touch the plane until three weeks ago, because of all the broken part we have replaced. He would only fly our super cub.
If I put a brushless on my Slo-v it would be a completely different plane........but then again I still don't see beginning flyers rushing out to do this type of mod. You are now proclaiming the preformance of the plane with a brushless, when someone is only going to have the plane in stock config?
08-27-2007, 12:45 AM
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Please learn to read, why is it that whenever someone mentions brushless upgrade everyone starts assuming that the plane does not work in stock from, if you read the post properly you will see that I said I learned to fly with it and then after I had learned I upgraded, I never recommended on the basis that it flies well with a brushless motor. In stock form the plane is only stall prone if you have the wing too far forward if you shove the wing back a bit you will find that it flies just fine. The reason I upgraded the motor was because a) I broke the motor mount in a crash caused by radio failure and b) because I wanted to make the plane climb faster. Yes the plane can be a bit slow to climb as standard but a civic can be a slow car to drive doesn't make it a bad car to learn in in actual fact I have seen people try and learn on a plane that climbs fast and they just stood in fear as their plane dissapeared. The actual point of my post was to highlight the fact that there are many positive reasons to have a slo-v where you were just listing negative points as you couldn't get on with your's. I am not saying that the super cub is no good but I just like people to know that the slo-v is a good plane to learn on also, as for it being fragile again I disagree, yes the plane is very weak to look at yet mine has had a few hard landing and at first when the old thumbs went the wrong way it hit the floor pretty hard yet the only thing I broke was the landing gear mount, which I must add was easily fixed with a zip tie. Please can we try and be a bit more assertive on these forums, unless a plane really is rubbish then don't preach to people that its not any good. And besides how did you manage to let your brother loose 25 feet and crash the plane without re-assuming control? not a very good method of teaching.
Please learn to read, why is it that whenever someone mentions brushless upgrade everyone starts assuming that the plane does not work in stock from, if you read the post properly you will see that I said I learned to fly with it and then after I had learned I upgraded, I never recommended on the basis that it flies well with a brushless motor. In stock form the plane is only stall prone if you have the wing too far forward if you shove the wing back a bit you will find that it flies just fine. The reason I upgraded the motor was because a) I broke the motor mount in a crash caused by radio failure and b) because I wanted to make the plane climb faster. Yes the plane can be a bit slow to climb as standard but a civic can be a slow car to drive doesn't make it a bad car to learn in in actual fact I have seen people try and learn on a plane that climbs fast and they just stood in fear as their plane dissapeared. The actual point of my post was to highlight the fact that there are many positive reasons to have a slo-v where you were just listing negative points as you couldn't get on with your's. I am not saying that the super cub is no good but I just like people to know that the slo-v is a good plane to learn on also, as for it being fragile again I disagree, yes the plane is very weak to look at yet mine has had a few hard landing and at first when the old thumbs went the wrong way it hit the floor pretty hard yet the only thing I broke was the landing gear mount, which I must add was easily fixed with a zip tie. Please can we try and be a bit more assertive on these forums, unless a plane really is rubbish then don't preach to people that its not any good. And besides how did you manage to let your brother loose 25 feet and crash the plane without re-assuming control? not a very good method of teaching.
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I never said the plane does not work in stock form. I few it with the stock battery and no upgrades until very recently. The plane is a great plane for $99.00. I guess where we have a difference of oppinion and not reading skills is that there are quite a few people I have met or read their comments on the boards that will agree that the Slo-V is not a beginner plane. It's about as good a plane and radio system you can get for $99.00. It is fun and I like it.....I just custom painted the replacement wing for mine. My point is that Park Flyers tend to be do-it-yourself types and will typically not join a club. Learn-by-doing. A plane that cannot handle wind well and is prone to stalling (due to pilot skill level), is really not the best plane to suggest to beginners to run out and buy when there are other far better chioces that will offer a smaller learning curve and fewer trips for replacement parts.
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I never said the plane does not work in stock form. I few it with the stock battery and no upgrades until very recently. The plane is a great plane for $99.00. I guess where we have a difference of oppinion and not reading skills is that there are quite a few people I have met or read their comments on the boards that will agree that the Slo-V is not a beginner plane. It's about as good a plane and radio system you can get for $99.00. It is fun and I like it.....I just custom painted the replacement wing for mine. My point is that Park Flyers tend to be do-it-yourself types and will typically not join a club. Learn-by-doing. A plane that cannot handle wind well and is prone to stalling (due to pilot skill level), is really not the best plane to suggest to beginners to run out and buy when there are other far better chioces that will offer a smaller learning curve and fewer trips for replacement parts.
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I still don't understand how people are breaking so many parts? as said the only things I have broken are the motor mount (radio failure caused crash) and the undercarriage mount which was caused by a very hard newbie landing that would probably have broke even the strongest mounts, I have never broken the fuse.
I still don't understand how people are breaking so many parts? as said the only things I have broken are the motor mount (radio failure caused crash) and the undercarriage mount which was caused by a very hard newbie landing that would probably have broke even the strongest mounts, I have never broken the fuse.
First, congratulations if you learned to fly with this plane...terrific! I fly every once in a while with a guy that learned how to fly on a Parkzone Typhoon. There are sme people who pick it up quicker.
The fuse is fragile, what else can I say. There are people that actually jam balsa in the front to strengthen it. My son had a hard landing with the upgraded battery and there is now a crack in our new fuse. Maybe the ground is harder over here in California?
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I have a beginner question.................I'll probaly buy the Slo-V or the Super Cub. My concern is about the transmitter controls. Why only one stick? Doesn't this make it harder when I move to other radios and airplanes? Thanks in advance for any help!
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I have a beginner question.................I'll probaly buy the Slo-V or the Super Cub. My concern is about the transmitter controls. Why only one stick? Doesn't this make it harder when I move to other radios and airplanes? Thanks in advance for any help!
I have a beginner question.................I'll probaly buy the Slo-V or the Super Cub. My concern is about the transmitter controls. Why only one stick? Doesn't this make it harder when I move to other radios and airplanes? Thanks in advance for any help!
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hey everyone... I have about 8 planes now... 5 being nitro but I was wondering on the slo v if ANYONE else just blows through the gear assembly on the motor like i do.. it seems everytime I even tip the ground with the prop the white PLASTIC gear is just torn to peices if I give it power again... i have honestly probably went through 9 now.. its just ridiculous thats the only part i break.. I think parkzone needs to look at this problem...
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That gear on my plane will side on impact and I have to push it back so it will not have any forward and back play on the shaft. Make sure that you don't have a similar problem as the metal gear will chew it up.
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That gear on my plane will side on impact and I have to push it back so it will not have any forward and back play on the shaft. Make sure that you don't have a similar problem as the metal gear will chew it up.
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That gear on my plane will side on impact and I have to push it back so it will not have any forward and back play on the shaft. Make sure that you don't have a similar problem as the metal gear will chew it up.
-Ted
Motor mount is a weak point for sure.
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hey everyone... I have about 8 planes now... 5 being nitro but I was wondering on the slo v if ANYONE else just blows through the gear assembly on the motor like i do.. it seems everytime I even tip the ground with the prop the white PLASTIC gear is just torn to peices if I give it power again... i have honestly probably went through 9 now.. its just ridiculous thats the only part i break.. I think parkzone needs to look at this problem...
hey everyone... I have about 8 planes now... 5 being nitro but I was wondering on the slo v if ANYONE else just blows through the gear assembly on the motor like i do.. it seems everytime I even tip the ground with the prop the white PLASTIC gear is just torn to peices if I give it power again... i have honestly probably went through 9 now.. its just ridiculous thats the only part i break.. I think parkzone needs to look at this problem...
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gt550.. believe me man I can land FINE.... considerin i have liek 5 nitro planes haha... but I understand what your sayin.. i beleive a lot of times i try to pull out of the ground it and when i hit the throttles still engaged, everytime i hit the ground i was doing something stupid (trying to put a camera on the wing) or flying in a small space and just tryin to mess around with it since it IS my little cheap electric haha, but every time it hit the ground i was like a foot off the ground when it goes nose in so i didn't think it would really mess anything up, but then of coruse i throttle back up and "GRIND".. done. but I think im done tring to put digital cameras on there and just stick to taping from the nitros.... thanks yall, I was wondering if maybe ANY metal gears would work on the slo v or a harder plastic....
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gt550.. believe me man I can land FINE.... considerin i have liek 5 nitro planes haha... but I understand what your sayin.. i beleive a lot of times i try to pull out of the ground it and when i hit the throttles still engaged, everytime i hit the ground i was doing something stupid (trying to put a camera on the wing) or flying in a small space and just tryin to mess around with it since it IS my little cheap electric haha, but every time it hit the ground i was like a foot off the ground when it goes nose in so i didn't think it would really mess anything up, but then of coruse i throttle back up and "GRIND".. done. but I think im done tring to put digital cameras on there and just stick to taping from the nitros.... thanks yall, I was wondering if maybe ANY metal gears would work on the slo v or a harder plastic....
gt550.. believe me man I can land FINE.... considerin i have liek 5 nitro planes haha... but I understand what your sayin.. i beleive a lot of times i try to pull out of the ground it and when i hit the throttles still engaged, everytime i hit the ground i was doing something stupid (trying to put a camera on the wing) or flying in a small space and just tryin to mess around with it since it IS my little cheap electric haha, but every time it hit the ground i was like a foot off the ground when it goes nose in so i didn't think it would really mess anything up, but then of coruse i throttle back up and "GRIND".. done. but I think im done tring to put digital cameras on there and just stick to taping from the nitros.... thanks yall, I was wondering if maybe ANY metal gears would work on the slo v or a harder plastic....