i'm after my first fun fly, i like the look of the limbo dancer artf,

so far my list of thing to put together is as follows

limbo kit
HS81 (throttle, i already have a few of these without a home, and it's a weight saving)
5 cell Rx pack (AA cells)
Futaba S3001 for the surfaces (4 of)
JR R700 Rx (small, + i've had lots of em and never had a problem)
and a OS 32FX

that lot comes to about £275

firstly, does this sound like a good setup, i'm looking for unlimited vertical, will the 32 do this?

would a 4 cells Rx pack be better than the 5.



i have little idea whats a good match for fun-flys, please suggest what you will

Thanks

the limbo dancer is one of the best all round fun flys of all time, the setup you have listed is typically british (light) and its nice to see.

a lot of the americans on this forum are powering them with huge lumps of metal, it just doesnt need it!!

rant over.

i think 4 cells is better than 5, it doesnt need 5 cells, and its extra weight anyway.
standard servos are good, mini on throttle is always a good idea.
no experience with the jr receiver but im sure its fine.

the engine (i think you meant a 32 SX) is perfect and the ideal choice for the limbo dancer, it will have unlimited vertical, use a big low pitch prop. 12.25x3.75 is good.

remember that this is not a fast model, if you drive it hard it will snap or bits will start falling off!!

dont forget Just Engines Leo 37 SF, 50 quid, cheap as chips, more power than the new Governor of California. however it's still got chinese bearings at it's heart, mine lasted 1.5 years and a HARD life, very good for chinese bearings, 7 months and 100's of flights over my old magnum engines..
the OS 32 will run forever tho. your cash, your choice. the 32 will be more floaty and more than powerful enough. Always Weston throttle pipes if you want more.

ditto to phillybaby,
leo 37, 50 quid well spent,
maplins 4 x 750 mlh AAA s = 56 grams now thats what i call weight saving
make up your own rx packs
run the limbo on a 11x 4 apc or 12/25 x 3/75
set 50% expo 50 rates have fun

cabanestrut2002 -

ya, i've notice the amount of fun flys with what seems to me a over weight block on the nose
anyway

i'll change my list to 4 cells, i don't plan on high speed dives, at least no till it gets battered enuf to warrant some Kamikaze runs



phillybaby -

I haven't looked at that engine, if the difference is really that great i'll have a look, but i'm still aiming for a lite model



fadmuker -

Who makes those cells? wouldn't be sanyos by any chance?

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What make of props are these 12.25 x 3.75's? i've looked through the ripmax and JP cat's but haven't found any.

Thanks for the replys, very helpful

like i sai, the Leo is cheap, lots of power, the OS is more expensive, lighter and slightly lesspower. power to weight you end up the same, the os will be more floaty tho.
APC make the 12.25x3.75 funfly prop, however neither the OS or Leo will turn it without a mini pipe, the APC 11x4 is also too much, for me a Leo ran best on a MASTER! 11x4 bags of grunt when poping out of the hang, put Irvine 39's to shame.

If i had to money, i might go for the OS tho.

cells, most places now sell lightweight Hydride cells at 600-800 mAh range without having to self build, i put a 1400 in mine, same weight as the Ni-cad, but you last much longer. Hydrides need to be watched more closely tho, no leaving them a week then go fly.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to buy all the kit except the engine and see how much extra nose weight is needed and select the engine from that. I'd still rather fit the OS tho

I haven't really looked at the APC props, they don't look to friendly for flick starting, but performance in the air is what i'm going for, so i'll get a couple to try

I'll have a look through the battery pack draw at my local model shop and see what's what, on aircraft at least i haven't try'd anything other than the standard 500-700 mAh 4 cell NiCds, i've try'd lots of different packs in cars, but weight doesn't matter so much there.

Thanks, oh and i did mean 32 SX

flick the apc with your hand backwards, or with a soft handled screwdriver forwards.

i never flick forwards, even my screwdriver flattens the edge, and you wouldn't fly your plane if the wing looked like that, only the prop is going much faster and needs to be in better condition. i always flick backwards against compression.
the APC's are great once you get going, for the 32 or 37 you'll want a 10x4 for responce and good overall performance, the 11x4 master for me gave much better thrust sub stall when the APC wants to bite and move, the master just gives thrust. i'm not sure a 32 without pipe will be too happy on the master 11x4, but it's worth a go when you want to learn prophang. the apc 10x4 will spool up quicker and get you out of trouble quicker tho..
Limbos have a very short nose, and i've seen lots with lead, mount the engine further out on the mount and you should be ok.
ps, dont forget use a 4 oz tank for less weight, it'll last long enough

i had a limbo once..........

it had a OS 35fp and it would hover quite easliy. i couldent but i eventually got the hang of it and promptly lost it in a mid air.

props: APC 10x4, 10x5, 11x3, 11x4 and a bolly 10.5x4
ive seen 13x4 props on these engines and i personnally think this is way OTT

cabanestrut2002 -

So, start it by bouncing of the fire?



phillybaby -

I've never try'd flicking an engine backwards, always by flicking the engine over forward, i'll try that with one of my models once the wind dies down a bit
i think on the prop front i'll get a small selection and see what suites me.

My dad has one of the old balsacraft kits with a mds .38, never flown it but it has about 2 square inches of 2mm brass on the nose to get it in the middle of the CoG range on the plan

And a blue top slec has bee added to the list



edible_engine -

ouch, ya, 13 does sound kinda big

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Thanks

i know, he said it Torque rolled quite nice tho, do you mind me asking, but have you ctually bought the kit yet?

BYW you dont really need the tank, the supplied is a RAM one but its a perfect fit, yellow tom 4oz me thinks, sounds small but as you dont fly these with the engine wide open its absolute fine

i haven't bought the kit yet, but i have one put aside at my local model shop, why may i ask?

i figure i may as well get the tank, compaired to the rest of the bits it doesn't cost much, and if i don't use it on this it'll likely be used on somthing else.

looking at the ripmax cat' and blue is 4oz, and yellow is 9oz

cos ive own 3 funflies in total, not many i admitt but the limbo is one of them, my overall favorite is the weston UK cougar 2000 (ive also owned the kit version). This to me is a far better machine. its sooooooo easy to prophang and with the OS it should be ballistic. Ive put it throught many rough times, and although its not tidy, it still flies amazingly! ive got a pic here, although it looks fake, i asure you its not, this is the photo i practised using paint shop pro on. that is me flying the cougar on its second flight.


Id get the cougar if you want that, 20 quid more, but its worth it.

i agree the Cougar is a better FunFly, just see my review on my site, now thats a tough plane.
BUT!!! the Limbo is more floaty due to it's wing section, the Cougar only floats when you use the elevator and engine. The Cougar might be better for throwing around, but certian things about Limbos make them better.

depends on what you want from it, you'll have more of a lazy float about, fly within the patch, slowwwww flying with the Limbo, they also flat spin better, the Cougar will be better to learn prophang and torque rolling and is more of a rough and tumble, faster machine.

edible_engine -

Thanks for the views, but the limbo seems to have the characteristics i want from a fun fly, nice pic too i've read a lot about both planes, and some more, the cougar just does't quite match what i want, but you never know, some day i may get one as well



phillybaby -

That what i've been reading about the limbo, i've had my fill of higher speed aircraft, and am starting to find them a little dull, and flying slow is about the only thing i haven't really try'd

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Thanks

To UK pilots,

Is the LD available in kit form. I had heard that the kits had been discontinued.
I crashed mine and want to build another but had heard that the ARTFs are slightly heavier.

I had the 46FX for power and found it to be grossly overpowered. I bought an O.S. 32SX to substitute the 46FX but crashed the plane before I could do so.

I need to build an LD to quell the severe withdrawal symptoms.

Cheers!!

the kits arent available currently, they might be back in production soon, the artf is okay though, if a little heavy.

no need for heavy four bangers and big two strokers, a good 32-36 is ideal

they aint hard to build, if you saved a rib template and have enough fuz to glue back together for dimentions they are easy to knock out.

sounds like you'll like the slower naturaly flying of the Limbo over the Cougar. all that means is the limbo will fly slow nose level with no interferance from you, the Cougar has to be flown to the same slow speed.
What i really miss is my Old Panther, these had REALLY! high lift sections and VERY short tails. they went super slow, and were super agile.
[quote]they aint hard to build, if you saved a rib template and have enough fuz to glue back together for dimentions they are easy to knock out.

sounds like you'll like the slower naturaly flying of the Limbo over the Cougar. all that means is the limbo will fly slow nose level with no interferance from you, the Cougar has to be flown to the same slow speed.
What i really miss is my Old Panther, these had REALLY! high lift sections and VERY short tails. they went super slow, and were super agile.

I've had MDS 38, SC 36 heli, and currently TT 46 Pro in my kit built Limbo. The SC 36 was the best engine all round. Good power, throttles great and hovers easily and the CG is near enough. The 46 is great but you get a shorter flight and the CG is too far forward. My Limbo is about 4 years old and still going strong. Use 11x4 on 36 and 11x5 on 46. I think the .32 might be a bit marginal, depends on the finished weight. Mine is 4 pounds dead on the 46. (Yep, plenty of repairs!)

From what I've seen the ARTF version is a bit flimsy, especially the forward fuselage which is full of big holes! You'll have more fun with this plane than you ever thought possible.

EDIT: Meant to say I've always used a 4 cell 600mah NiMh in mine, only weighs a couple of ounces and is good for 6 flights. Oh, and don't even think about the MDS!

agree with that, the SC/Magnum/ASP are all the same POS but out of that above choice they are the strongest.. for a while..

os32 on a mini pipe, PLEANTY!