when is the OMP Profile Bipe coming i heard somthing about it from a while ago is a rumor or is another plane coming along outta the assembly lines?

No, it's no longer a rumor! We will have pictures of the plane posted tomorrow or Tuesday.

50" Wingspan. Ultimate style with 3D sized control surfaces. Designed for a .61 2 stroke. (<-- Jim D). However I'm sure we'll see plenty with 91's on it.

It will be coming out as an ARF first!

STLPilot,

If the ARF is coming out first, how long are we going to have to wait on a kit?

How good a job are the shipping companies doing transporting the ARFs?

Are you getting a lot of complaints?

If I order an ARF, is it going to get to my door in one piece?

Thanks,
Dean

sounds like you had some problems. UPS always got it there safe in my hands.... Well always wanted a 2 wing profile looks like ill get one.

When we shipped the 80" Edge ARF's we used Fed Ex Ground. Needless to say they are not the best. We have switched to UPS and they have been great so far shipping out all the Katana ARF's.

We have no plans for the Ultimate Bipe in kit form as of right now. Of course that can change quickly and since the kits are produced in the US the turnaround time is much faster then ARF'. The kits depend on the demand and your requests for us to do so.

Common Dion, let's see it!

I got a 91FX and a Saito 91 looking for homes!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate it when I see companies go exclusively with ARF's.

Here's my vote for "Please Make it a KIT Too!"

I agree with Wagas. Please don't turn OMP into another ARF company.

Did Mike design this airplane, or is this someone else's creation?

both of my OMP ARF's have been top notch-



Alex

It's not a top notch question. I'm sure they are!


This would be a great topic in the club house forum. "Why do they make great looking ARFs but no Kits for the same airplanes?"

I think that they are just trying to keep up with what people are asking for- I would say that they have had a lot of requests for arfs as they have traditionally been a kit company- I think that they might offer kits of these planes after they see some success- arfs will get the product out there faster and with more volume so you will get more feedback and many more opinions of the planes characteristics- jst my .02$


Alex

I suggest you start that thread. I would be happy to discuss this issue very much. Maybe some other manufacturers will join in the discussion. It's an economic issue I can assure you with dozens of reasons. The number one reason being a kit produced vs. an ARF produced and the pricepoint of the 2 vs. the demand.

However when it comes to OMP we are going to do what our legacy has started out with. Build great planes, listen for feedback, correct the issues, repeat. You guys wanted a Bipe, here it comes. The next bird we are working on is also in direct response to your emails and posts as well.

Right now the OMP Profile Bipe we are working on is going to be delivered in ARF form first. We will see how the feedback goes. If you say ARF's not good enough then we will produce kits based on demand.

Ah yes......the question of ARF versus kits. Yes Mikey has a hand in this bipe creation as all the profiles we've created but this is the first one we are working directly with the ARF company to produce right from the get-go. It's really much faster and efficient and it seems Americans really want ARFs over kits probably 100 to 1! Heck I know even famous Pro Bros that buy ARFs and then immediately strip the covering off to put there own scheme on the plane just to avoid building. Kits of the bipe would be easy to move into maybe after the ARFs take off.....we'll just have to see. Right now I'm still in the development stage and prototyping.

WOW! I'm that 1....cool, never been 1 out of 100 before......do I win a prize? How about a Bipe Kit! heh Heh.

STPILOT: Please Chime in to the thread that I started so we could have a manufactures point of view as you said you would be happy to.

I still do not understand how/why it is less work to ARF a new airplane than kit it first. You would think it would be the other way around.

A link would help wouldn't it!!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/%22W...1982912/tm.htm

So this thing will be right sized for a Saito 91?

I'm with Wagas. I go about 1/2 and 1/2 kits and ARF's. I prefer kits, but don't have time to build all kits, so I also have a few ARF's. I had a couple of bad ARF experiences to start with and still have had only what I would call 'fair' quality ARF's. Remember, these planes are being measured against what I build, a tougher yardstick than comparing a reasonable quality ARF to a POS ARF.

But forced to go one way or the other, I'd be a kit man.

I am also very interested in the ARC method, but this just doesn't seem very popular.

I NEED THAT PLANE WHEN IT COMES OUT!!! I have dreamed of a profile bipe that did what it was supposed to. Drrooo, drool, I don't care what it looks like!

The ARC method is super popular down here. Because monokote runs about $20 a roll people do all they can to avoid, including the manufacturers bc it skyrockets the price. With the ARC you get a little of the ARF ease without the ARF look.

Dion......

What engine are you flying the prototype with? and what is the weight?


My MDS .68 needs a home

I'll have all the pics, numbers including AUW very soon. It should do just fine on .61 or greater motor.

Hey NovaBill, Funny but that's the motor I have slated for the prototype. My MDS .68 is a rocket, one of the best running motors I've ever had.

Really though guys I'm way early in the first prototype phase and I hate to get too ahead of the game. We all know how long it's taken to bring the other kit lines to market. That's the primary reason we are initially going straight for ARFs. It really is much quicker than a kit line. But don't worry, I'm a die-hard kit builder myself so it will happen after the ARFs....I hope.

What prop would you put on that 68? I've had 2 of them, loved them both, but usually in sport planes, like a 60 sized stick swinging a 12x6. I tried it in a 3D plane with a 13x4, but didn't like that.

Another engine that comes to mind is Irvine 72

MDS = Many Dead Sticks [:'(]

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