The mods only added 4-7 grams, not ounce's.
I bought one of the first kits. The newer kits are much stronger.

Yes, the E3d is fun to fly.

Would I buy another? Yes!!

There are planes designed to crash, The wings are held on with rubber bands and they weigh 6 lbs with a forty engine.
I fly hand launch and gliders and if you squeeze to tight or dork a landing it breaks. Don't dork it and don't squeeze too tight.
If a high performance plane breaks during flight it's a problem, on the other hand if it breaks when landing or in a dive at full throttle thats not a problem. If a servo doesn't have the power to do its job we don't complain, we get a stronger servo... If your not an extremely confident and skilled pilot then a plane designed light enough to hover and fly on an 05 can motor is probably not the best choice for you.
This is not meant as criticism to any one, it's just that some people are used to 40 size trainers and sticks and that is not what this plane is.
Let the flaming begin.

Thanks for the definition of a trainer.

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If a high performance plane breaks during flight it's a problem

If the fuse of a plane break behind the wing while turning on to the runway, is this a problem?

Yes,
With your building or your flying. You should know before it comes off of the building board if it stong enough to taxi.
The flaming has begun.

Gary,
if your reading this, thank you for helping my buddy Alvin with his throttle and pitch curves on his raptor 30v2 4 weeks ago. It's all he has talked about....Gary Wright flew my chopper, Gary Wright adjusted my throttle curve....:0 He was also impressed with your hornet. He also said it was refreshing to find someone of your experience to unselfishly take time out to help a beginner.
He has now looped and rolled it, You gave him mega confidence.

Mike Johnson
Sign of the Times

Mike,
What's your point?

Gary acknowleged the problem and strengthened the newer kits. Why shoot everyone down that had a problem with the first run of kits.

Did you notice this dicussion ended nearly a year ago?

I'm not shooting anyone down, some fly more delicately than others, you said in your previous post that you would buy another.
So what is your point, did i hurt your feelings? It is for people like you that i responded with "let the flaming begin" I knew someone would take it out of context and make it personal.
Didn't the Post end for you a year ago also?
I will not respond to this thread anymore, say what you want, I will be reading other posts and trying to help where i may.
If i hurt your feeling i'm sorry.

how do these hover with the endoplasm motor. The motor in the video sounds like a hacker.