hey, a bud and me both have .32 lying around going to waste, we would love somthing thats reasonably cheap, capable of some great 3d action (nice to go small once in a while, apposed to our larger birds) and would like to strap some ribbons to her and combat. Any suggestions? thanks, spence

Not sure you can have a 3d bird that will do combat as well.... Then again.. if it's hover combat.....

exactly, for instance, I own one of your 40 sized mojos and would love to combat that, only if it wasnt my most prized possesion im looking for an arf, only if you made your smaller mojo an arf... hint hint hint, lol

Build a Brawler!!! Just copy the Mojo shapes onto some 1/2 pink foam. Although, for a 32 engine....you may want to scale it down a bit.
But they do fly great, and combat would be a very inexpensive hoot!!

http://portcityrcclub.com/cpg/displa....php?pos=-1015

Brawler video..........Around these parts we call it 'THE FUNK" Friggin Ugly Nitro Knocker!!!

the funk huh, lol. thats deffinatly one option. I know that I would make that no problem, but unfortunatly my friend over here does not share the same love for building. some body must make somthing... ? right???

I have a lot of guys running 32's on My O2-45's.

[link=http://kalteisen.com/o2_45_glow.html]http://kalteisen.com/o2_45_glow.html[/link]

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RC MANIAC119,

Too cool! Got any pictures to post? Did you have to stiffen the fuse at all? Chris

I have a couple.........

I used the Swany method for stiffness....CF Tube down the fuse.....and also in the wing.

It's also important to use Bi-directional tape, with #M-77 Spray glue, down both sides of the fuse, and for all the control surfaces. Don't use CA hinges...they won't hold in the foam!!

Put some Bi-Di along the bottom of the fuse, if you don't use landing gear.

The bird is ready to fly, with an AX 55 at 3lbs. 4oz!!!!

Enjoy

Ready to go............

Too sweet. And I have to goto home depot tomorrow anyway...I guess I will have to build this to fly while I am finshing my CNC foam cutter...Are you using 1/4 OD CF tube?

I've got an OS .46FX that needs a home. At 3lbs, I'm almost sure that's in the hover realm....

Thanks for sharing your pics. I'll post some pics and CAD files when I get mine done.

If you and your buddy both have a 32, and you're looking for some fearless combat thrills, try a PBF. Super cheap, super easy to build, and nearly indestructible.

Here's some PBF combat action from this summer:
http://www.mmrca.org/e3d2007/e3d2007_pbfcombat_320.wmv

The yellow/black PBF is powered by a Webra 32.
The blue PBF (mine) is powered by an OS 40FP.
The white PBF is also powered by an OS 40FP.

While not 3D, the Tequila Sunrise 25 is supposed to be a fast and fun acrobatic little plane for engines about that size. I'd bet it's good at combat, though I really don't know too much about it. GreatPlanes also has a P-51D Mustang and an F4U Corsair in the .25-class. They're combat specific planes. Again, not 3D but combat.

Great 3D, but not ARF: Mojo 30 would be great. They're supposed to be EXTREMELY easy and fast to build. There are people that build and cover their Mojo 60's in one day, and install their radio the next. That's way faster than I've assembled any ARF besides my Tribute ARF (which took just over 2 days and like an hour the next). Also, the Fat Free Taco by Swany is in the same boat as the Mojo30.

Decent 3D with that engine: Tribute 3D arf. It's a .36 sized plane. Hovering with the evolution 36 a friend has on it is right above half throttle, so I'm sure a .32 wouldn't be TOO much weaker. They're available at Horizon Hobby, and are fairly cheap and EXTREMELY easy to build. I'd bet you could keep it really light if you tried.

That's my .02. I hope I've helped.

I guess I just have to get over my fear of covering planes, im unreal at how horrible I am at it. I make the build process look easy (hobby of mine is fine carpentry) and yet once the covering goes on, one would think stevy wonders assisted, lol. Not really that bad, but hey.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean about the covering (very bad builder here). I'm extremely awful at it. The only thing I've learned to do is to pull HARD and move slowly. It helps to have an extra set of hands with you, just to do all of the pulling. Work slowly and pull in the direction perpendicular to which you're going to be working. Like, pull the Monokote towards the TE of the wing as you move your iron across the koting side to side, slowly moving your way down the wing. Coting just takes patience. I've found that the pieces I cover slowly, and with patience, come out millions of times better than if I'm even in a SLIGHT hurry.
I know it sounds basic, but most of it is all mental. Just relax, take your time, keep the koting taut and it'll come out better than you expected.

The mojo 30 isnt out but the 32 would be great on the mojo 25. It will take a 25 to 32 according to swanny. If it builds like the 40 it wont take long.

Hahaha...I hadn't noticed that it wasn't out until just now. Man, am I tired.
Danny, you just keep popping up all over the place. Out of the 4 threads I've really stopped to read tonight, you've been in like 3 of them. They're all in different forums, too! Hahaha, I guess it's easy to give advice when you know a lot...not so easy for me. It's nice to see people posting a lot, it shows that they care.

bbike, one thing I thought of us vinyl covering. You can look it up in the phone-book. Normally Architectural supply stores and art supply stores will have it. Also, a lot of car garages specializing in customizing or tuning cars would know how to get a hold of some. It's what they use for stickers. It's just like a sticker, but flexible and strong AND fuel resistant. It's a bit heavier (maybe 15% heavier) than Monokote/Ultrakote, but it's noticeably thicker. Problem is it doesn't shrink/expand with heat (which is a good thing on hot days), which means you'll have to be very careful while you're covering it as there's no way to iron-out the wrinkles. Nice thing is you can pull it back up and try again. Though not necessary, CA around key edges/corners will probably help...but I do that with a lot of my monokoting anyway.

Thanks alot Vic. I've read alot on these forums. Sometimes I post alot and other times I dont post for weeks. It's good to see your reading on a bunch of forums at 12:30 am.

Well, reading can't hurt...and as bad/new as I am, every bit helps. 12:30am is really about the only time I get to be on RCU, but I'm on here as much as possible. I'm the same way as you, as far as the spurts of posts go anyway. I know I've posted a lot recently, but I haven't posted much the week before this one. We'll see if all this reading helps, I hope so! So far, I've discovered a great plane I'm about to build. It's a Funk .46GLOW foamy. Size of a mojo, 3#, $50, and indestructible. I just hope I can help some people along the way, it's only fair!
Either way: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!! Well, for that matter: HAPPY HANUKKAH, FELIZ FESTIVUS or whatever else may float your boat!

A glow foamy. gotta link to it. I've been posting more because I just got a fliton extra but I learned I have to buy a new carb. Bye bye 60 bucks of Christmas money.

You're going to be STOKED with that extra. I had the Fliton Edge Freestyle. It had my first 4S engine on it, flying the brand new Saito 100 for the first time, at a field I had never been to, after a 3 month hiatus from the hobby, in 15 kt winds. My dad is normally made of ice, but he was pitching a fit about me not flying. I had driven an hour and a half to get to the field, so I just HAD to fly. I did, and the plane NEVER felt it. First flight and I was in a harrier/inv. harrier, flat spin/inv flat spin, rolling harrier (first rolling harrier ever, btw), a bit of hovering, and several laps of KE flight. The plane was almost TOO solid. My maiden landing was a harrier landing (again, first ever). You're going to be in love with that plane!! Sorry to hear about the carb. My Edge's Rx battery came unplugged after a rather violent full-throttle high-rate snap roll and hit the ground nose-first (I could see the hole where the spinner hit), destroying my plane, engine, and 3 servos. Hit so hard my Tx got dirty. I've heat-shrinked EVERY battery to the Rx I've had since.

This link isn't to the Foamy's thread, but it shows a couple pics and has pretty good info. RC Maniac 119 built it, and is going to be helping me along with my build. If you want, you can either ask him about it or PM me with your e-mail and i'll forward you everything he sends me. Watch the video (Post: #15). I'm going to take my radio gear/46AX off of my Tribute to build that. Or, i'll build it and then fly my tribute like an idiot until I'm forced to remove the equipment. Either way, here's the [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6583876/anchors_6583876/mpage_1/key_glow%252Cfoamy/anchor/tm.htm#6583876]LINK[/link]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! I just noticed that the exact plane I was talking about was IN THIS THREAD!! LOL. Can you tell I'm tired?? I just responded without going back through this thread. Moderator, please go ahead and slap me for that ignorance. I'm glad Santa's already come and gone...hopefully he'll forget by next year. Oh well, that's cheered me up. BTW, I didn't edit my last post so that everyone else could get a good laugh as well!

Nice. Friggin Ugly Nitro Knocker. Whats the weight. I have an old os 46 (not an ax, fx or la) thats on a dazzler that I hate. That may be good engine for that plane. How indistructable is it? Anyway first I have to finish my extra, then cover my mojo, and then replace my airfoilz electric plane (a series of hover accident broke it in two twice).

Wait. Does that sucker have a flat wing? How is it fuel proof too?

Yes, it has a flat wing. Just like a FlatOut, but huge!!
RCManiac119 reported 3lbs 4oz with an OS55AX. It uses a 5/8 Liteply plate to mount the engine, 2 1/2x36" CF tubes in the wings and fuse (a la mojo) to strengthen it, and a smaller CF tube (i think) in the horizontal stab. Apparently, that insulation foam is completely fuel proof. May have something to do with the paint he used, I'm not sure. I've seen horrendous crashes with perfectly fine carbon fiber pieces left over. If any part of the plane IS damaged, only about 10 of those 50 bucks is going to be damaged. The rest is in glue, a huge sheet of ply, and the CF rods. Also, foam is pretty easy to fix. One more point is that damage is done to a plane by a rapid loss in momentum (a crash). Less momentum=less crash. The plane weighs 3lbs. It's also not designed to fly fast AT ALL. momentum=weight*velocity (p=mv). Low weight times low speed = low momentum, less damage in a crash. PLUS, it's designed around the all-mighty Mojo. As I have no experience with the plane, though, I can only speculate.

The way I've always thought a plane flies by differential air pressure caused by the Bernoulli Principle of high pressure/low speed and viceversa caused by an airfoil penetrating a fluid. Air flows over an airfoil in equal times (different speeds though), and to create lift it would need to flow in UNEQUAL times. The way lift is actually generated is by a surface deflecting air downwards. Newton's 3rd Law of motion (ever action has a reaction) means that as the wing pushes air down, the air pushes the wing up. Therefore, no airfoil is required.