New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Here is a few pics of the new "Ecstasy" for your view. There is some more information regarding the new Ecstasy on my website

http://hsrcm.com/images/ecstasy/ecstasy.jpg

http://www.hsrcm.com

Enjoy!
Kevin :D

Ecstasy Wing
 

Here is pic of the wing under construction. The Ecstasy wing is a true triple tapered wing.
Wings are plug-in using an 1-1/4" alunimum wing tube & sleeves. Wings will attach from the inside of the fuse.

Ecstasy Fuse Started
 

The Ecstasy Fuse is reinforced balsa fuselage sides. Fuse construction interlocks with tabs. Everything is dry fitted together, squared up, then glued. It takes longer to break-out the laser cut parts then it takes to assemble and glue the fuse.

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

It kinda reminds me of the Hard Bet, but I cann't remember whose the manufacturer? :D :D

Don

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Sheesh!

I GOTTA stop checking out these posts! I have 12 perfectly good planes ready to fly, and now suddenly it isn't enough!!

Help! i'm adicted!!!

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Hey DonH21---The Hardbet is made by HSRCM. Got one. Haven't built it yet. It's next on the list.

Ecstasy
 

What's the finished:

Weight w/o engine & radio gear?
Wing area?
Length?
Short kit price (cause I know it'll be an sk)?

I know you like 2-strokes, but will the YS91AC be suitable, or should I hold on to my YS120NC for this one?

DKjens

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

KEVIN IMO It needs a bigger elevator. But then what do I know. Im liking the saito 72 on the HB Mark III more and more. If I can get a little better transition on the motor It will be sweet. A flying buddy did a climbing Inv flat spin and almost got it into a tornado and he has only flown it twice.

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Thanks, Hot Flier

I've got the Aeron framed up. ;) I'm waiting for the covering I ordered to finish it. It's on back order.

HotFlier, you better get started on the Hard Bet! You never know when you'll need it! I just ended a 3 year relationship with my Profile Hots!! :rolleyes: I'm glade I had the Top Cap about done.I'll get the Aeron done as soon as the covering comes in then I'll have 2 too fly. :D :D

I'm a little addicted too!!!! :D

Don

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Hey DonH21--Know what you mean. I ended an 11 year relationship with my original Midwest Hots. One awsome plane. Gonna build another one. I still have the plans.

Ecstasy
 

I've been working on the fuse today for the prototype Ecstasy. I have about 10 manhours in the fuse and its framed except the nose, tailwheel mount, and the top hatches. Considering that these manhours include taking pictures between each step and taking notes, I didn't think that was too bad.

DonH21 - The fuselage does remind you of the Hard Bet Mk III. The Ecstasy does have the turtle deck & canopy of the Hard Bet Mk III, but the nose will be like the Wacky-Bee III, and the tail surfaces are of simuliar design of the Aeron. The wing is a totally new design. It is a true triple tapered wing design.

Smallfly - The elevator can not be increased in size. Been there, tried that, and it was way too much elevator. Due to the design of the aircraft, the elevator sees clean air, which makes it extremely sensitive. I've done extensive testing on this elevator design already. Fun Fliers that look at it, thinks its too small, until they fly it (ones with the Aeron will find out), then they can't believe its responsiveness.

DKjens - I'd keep the YS 120 if I were you. I believe that the 91 4C will fly it fine, but not good enough for the kind of flying that you like. I plan on putting a ST90 with a Mac Header and tuned pipe on my prototype for evaluation, though the nose section has been designed to accommodate a Dave Brown CF motor mount for a 120 4C. I don't have a finished weight on it yet (prototype is not done yet). The wing span is about 65" with a fuselage length of 57"

I will try and post a couple more picks of the prototype later tonight.

Thanks to all for the vote of confidence and interest.
Kevin :D

Another Pic - Landing Gear
 

Here is the custom carbon fiber landing gear for the Ecstasy. The CF landing gear will be included in the semi-short kit.

Fuselage Pic
 

Here is another Pic of the fuselage after my labor today.

Fuselage Pic
 

Here is the fuse with the CF landing gear staged on it. The landing gear won't look so big once the nose and rudder is installed.

Looks bloody earth good Kevin
 

Hey Kevin, I had no idea your lasser cut parts went together this well ***LOL*** ha ha, you know I'm a joking. I'll hold on to my 120, you know how it is anyway, you get hold of a great engine, comes out you dont need it anyway and put it up for sale, and nobody will pay what it's worth (and if you don't change your mind about selling, you end up giving it away). This YS120 turns an apc17x6 at 8800 rpm, and only weighs 4 oz more than a YS91AC.
If you are happy with the prototype, that you are building now, when will short kit, or semi short kit be available (you think)?
DKjens

Ecstasy Availability - You Ask?
 

I'll have to look into the YS120. This one sure would be sweet with that combination. I am not a big fan of 4Cs, though then you get into the bigger ones, and you're talking about a YS, then I am listening. I have been pleasantly pleased with the performance of the YS 91 and YS120s that I have seen.

DKjens - My intention is to offer a semi-short kit, at least at first.

I intend to offer the following with the kit:

- All laser cut components
- Full scale plans
- Fully illustrated construction manual (of the same quality as all other HSRCM kits.)
- Aluminum wing tube (1-1/4" dia) and sockets/sleeves
- Custom carbon fiber landing gear
- Vacuum formed canopy
- SIG medium Haige style tail wheel assembly (possibly, I haven't decided whether to include the tail wheel assembly in the kit or not)

Let me know what you think of the contents of the proposed "semi-short kit".

As far as when? Good question. I only have the weekends to work on the prototype. I am working out of town right now, and will be for quite a while. I try and work on the construction manual while on the road to keep me busy in the evenings.
Thanks - Kevin :D

ecstasy
 

Kevin, do I still get to be a test pilot on proto #2? Now that the sledge is done I have a little more time. Although, I am getting ready to start that 35% edge. But hey I always like to have two models building side by side. You say it needs a 90 engine, well I will have to get one. Maybe the saito 100, since it is lightweight, but then I am like you and prefer the 2stroke on fun flys. MVVS just put out a 91, guess I will look at that.
Jeff Williams

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Quote: "I try and work on the construction manual while on the road to keep me busy in the evenings."

*RFLMAO* I bet that keeps your wife happy. I'm not in a big hurry, actually would just be good to look forward to a good kit.

I like the idea of the semi-shor kit, or should it be called a short-long kit hmmmmmm?
My only reservation is: "Is the tail gear strong enough? Will it absorb all punishment served up from the rear of this plane, so the rudder doesn't get knocked off its hinges?" Make sure the tail wheel is very strong and extends well out to the most rear of the rudder, and make sure the main gear will allow max diam. props (18") to clear a paved run way when doing harrier landings (not flex to much so to allow prop "trimming").
I think builders should be able to pick their own wood, hinges, horns, mounts, screws, etc., so your kit contents looks good.
I don't know about letting Jeff beta test the 2nd proto, being partial to 2-strokes and all ha ha.
DKjens

Answers
 

Jeff - You have the option of getting #2 - Always! I wouldn't consider the Saito 100, you won't get that ulimited vertical at less than 1/2 throttle that we like. The MVVS 91 maybe an option, though I was disappointed in the performance of the MVVS 77 even with the tuned pipe and long header. I wish that Webra still made the 90. I have a webra 120, even better yet, go with the new Webra 120 Bully, its a modified version of the Webra 120 that is reported to be awesome! Unfortunately, I am afraid that the wing loading would be too high with a Webra 120.

DKjens - I think that you guys will be very happy with the clearance that the Main landing gear will offer, and the tail wheel assy. will protect the rudder all right. Here is a like to SIG's website for your information. I am planning on going with the medium size.

SIG Haige Style Tail Wheel Assemblies

I am working on the nose this morning, and I am going flying later today.
Happy Flying! - Kevin :D

New Fun-Fly in Development
 

Hey wait a minute, How come Jeff gets to go first. :) Who has actually purchased and built 2 of Kevin 's airplanes. :p I have an OS 91fx that may be looking for a new home. I like the idea of the gear. Tailwheel is OK if it doesnt jack the price up. I prefer the goldberg klett 60 size but it's getting hard to find. Hmm Maybe a winter project:D

Tail Wheel Assy - Smallfly
 

Of course Smallfly that including the tailwheel assy. will raise the price of the kit. Whether is "jacks" the price up or not is a matter of opinion. The tailwheel assy list for about $20.00. I bought one yesterday at the LHS for about $16.00 USD.

The only reason that Jeff is offered No. 2, is he asked first! We reviewed the design of the Aeron - 60 when I visited him 'way back when'. I decided that I did not like the perfromance of the Aeron -60, hence the testing of the Aeron - 60 lead to the Ecstasy. And he asked first. Besides, when I order the first production kits, I will get them in in multiples. Who knows Tom, if you order one out of the first production order, you may get number 2. But don't tell Jeff if you do! :D
Kevin :D

ecstasy
 

Hey I am reading this stuff you know. OK, if Smallfly was not such a good guy I would have to bark. If he gets #2 that would be up to Kevin, however Kevin knows we had a deal on Aeron 60 and now that project has turned into Ecstasy. So therefore I am in line for #2. Now, let me set a precedent even further, if the ecstasy turns into the blank, I am still in line for #2. Ok enough fun with that. The webra 120, hmmm. Why can't it be a MVVS, something I can get a deal on? I would do the Webra, they are good engines but I am frugal. Later, Jeff W.

Turns into a Blank?
 

Boy Jeff, You got me confused :confused: What do you mean by "if the Ecstasy turns into a blank"? Maybe you ought to email me directly with your answer (just in case).
There is nothing wrong with the MVVS. I would think that it would pull it around just fine to say the least. The MVVS 91 supposely has more HP than the ST90, but I am fugil too, and I have a NIB ST90. This is why I am starting off with the ST90.

I constructed the nose section today. I will have to re-design it though. I didn't like the way it came out. This is why I build a prototype.

Here's a pic of the modifed one on the prototype.

Ecstasy
 

Quote: "if the ecstasy turns into the blank"
Hey Kevin, I have full confidence in your product, unlike ahem, Mr. Williams ha ha, I think you should let me give it a shot. Alright, just give me No. 3 then.
DKjens

Give?
 

DKjens - Obviously you have mistaken HSRCM, Inc as a charity organization.
Seriously, I designed and built a Aeron-60 prototype. I had the construction manual almost complete (been on the road) prior to test flying it. I didn't like the performance of it. The Aeron-60 flies good with the MVVS 77 though does meet my criteria, thence it will not be offered as a kit. My standards appear to extremely high in comparison to others, because I like to cater to the EXTREME (STICK BANGERS).
When I hear my customers say
"I just threw the sticks in the corners and hit the throttle. The aircraft did some wild manuvers that I've never seen before, that were awesome! Guys at the airfield asked how it did that, and what was that manuver called? And I replied, I don't know, but it sure was COOL!!!"
I love it! That is my kind of airplane!
Kevin :D