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Old 10-29-2012 | 10:23 AM
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A quick question. I am an acomplished flyer but have never mastered the slow roll. Now that I am into turbines i want to. Any tips from someone who has. Been trying it on the simulater,wow a lot of slow corrections. Thanks for any help.
Old 10-29-2012 | 10:36 AM
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I guess you can fly inverted without problems so...<div>Just practice slowly rolling to knife edge. Then from knife edge to inverted... inverted to opposite KE. Then to up right.</div><div>Some people like to start by adding up elevator at the start but that just adds even more problems... and then you've got to practice removing it!</div><div>Just do the slow quarter roll practice. It works.</div><div>By the end of the day you'll have it pretty well nailed.</div><div>Enjoy.</div>
Old 10-29-2012 | 03:02 PM
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I found it easier to master 4 point rolls first. 4 point rolls that hold each point, not the instantaneous flick type point rolls that you frequently see nowadays. Holding each point for a second or more will let you learn what corrections you need at each point to hold level flight and constant heading, plus I think they're just more graceful. When your point rolls are consistently level and on course, the slow rolls are just reducing the aileron throw, eliminating the pauses and gradually blending the same rudder and elevator inputs from the point roll.

Or at least that's how I learned them. That and practice, practice, practice. Go to the field and do nothing but point rolls all day long, flight after flight. Day after day. Or slow rolls. Or whatever you are working on. Spend entire days, entire weekends, entire months on one maneuver. Yes I spent an entire summer on slow rolls after mastering point rolls the year before.

Oh yeah, how well does your airplane hold a knife edge? Not just momentary, but knife edge from one end of the field to the other. Do you have to correct with aileron or elevator to keep it straight and level? If so, you're going to have all kinds of problems on the slow rolls. The very first thing to do is to work on rudder to aileron and rudder to elevator mixes so that you can hold either left or right knife edge with no inputs except rudder. Spend entire days tweaking your knife edge mixes! You have to be able to fly across the field knife edge with no input except rudder. THEN you're ready to start working up from point rolls through slow rolls. And if you change anything on your airplane setup (cg, throws, etc.) you'll have to revisit all your mixes.

It will all pay off when you do that perfect slow roll that goes straight as an arrow from one end of the field to the other and you hear the person you most respect in your club groan and say "I know how hard he was working for that move."

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Ditto most of the advice above. Four simple questions:

1. Can you fly straight and level across the field from one end to the other with no inputs other than very slight elevator and aileron inputs?
2. Can you fly straight and level across the field from one end to the other with no inputs other than very slight elevator and aileron inputs, while inverted?
3. Can you fly knife edge straight and level from one end of the field to the other with only rudder inputs?
4. Can you roll from each previously mentioned position to another without dropping the nose, pulling nose up, or changing course?

When you can execute all four of those scenarios, you will be doing the slow roll.

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Old 10-30-2012 | 06:21 AM
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Thanks to all for responding. For hugger-4641 I can do everything you outlined except #3 I need to work on but the other stuff I can do in my sleep. I figuered to start a half hour a day on the simulater to pratice as flying season here is coming to a close. Im hoping by spring to have it nailed. Thanks again to all for the advice is nice to have help when we need it,THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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