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Old 11-05-2006 | 11:51 AM
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Default wing and engine incidence

Help please,
We are building a couple sport scale 81” all composite Spitfires.
My question is a general one or two. I understand the wing should have a positive incidence, were should we start? 1-2 degrees? Also the motor I understand it is common to have a little down and right thrust. Were should we start 1 or 2 degrees each? I know without knowing more about the plane this may be difficult to answer, we are looking for ball park starting points.
Old 11-05-2006 | 02:16 PM
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Hi hydro. Saw both your posts. Can't help with canopy, but I make canopy track. As to the incidence, perhaps more important is the relationship between the wing incidence and the horizontal stabilizer incidence. I think if you start with a degree of wing incidence, with 0 deg. for the stab, it will hit a fairly neutral area. I'm sure there are others out there with more experience with the Spit, as I have only built one, and that was about 30 years ago! I had trouble with the kit I built, as the plans had the cg in the wrong place! Another simple solution is to email Dave Platt at [email protected]. If anyone can answer your question HE CAN!! Lee Robinson. You can tall him I said so! (He can't kill me more than once!) Dave is always very helpful.
Old 11-06-2006 | 01:24 PM
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Hi!
I'm currently building two Brian Taylor 84" Spitfires Mk 9 and 19 from plans and the plans show the engine to be mounted straight forward without side or down thrust . Wing is mounted sligthly positive as most full size airplanes (could be 1-2 degrees) and wing has wash-out in the tips which is very important both in fullscale as in models. Stab is mounted 0 degrees to the engine.
I have studied many 3-plan vievs of the full scale Spitfire and no Spit up to Mk 9 has any side or down thrust. It wasn't until the Merlin engine was replaced by the bigger more powerfull Griffon in the later Mk's the spitfire had down trust.

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Old 11-06-2006 | 02:20 PM
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a good comprimise on wing incidence would be 1 1/2 degrees with engine at 0 and 0 and stap at 0.as stated above 1 to 1 1/2 degrees of wash out at the tips will be a blessing.
Old 11-06-2006 | 06:48 PM
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We currently have 0 degree on the rear stabilizer and a 2 1/2 degree positive on the wing with a 1 1/2 degree wash out. It sounds like maybe we should start with a 1 degree negative and maybe 1 1/2 degree right on the engine.
What do you think?
Old 11-07-2006 | 01:49 PM
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The full size spit had 2 degrees pos. at the root in relation to the stab and minus point 5 (-.5) at the rib where the aileron ends. I scratch built mine to scale specs and it flys great. Engine is 0-0. It is a mark V. The later marks had minus 30 MINUTES at the tip, same +2 at the root. Hope this helps.

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