dual elevator set up
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I am having a difficult time setting up dual elevator servos to move at the same speed. Whenmoving the stick full<font size="3" face="Calibri"></font>diflection quickly both sides move at the same speed and angles. when moving the stick slowly to full diflectionone side goes faster than the other (the slaved side goes slower when full diflection is reached they are at the same angle).
My setup:
two 3010 futaba servos,
futaba 7c 2.4 tx
futaba 617 rx
using mix-1 the master is channel 2 the slave is channel 6, set to go 100% of the master
Here is what else I have tried:
switched out servos (thought one might be bad) same result
used different channels (channel 7 for the slave)
used some of the other mixes
Would it be possible to use the elevon mix?
Any advise would be very helpful. Thanks in advance
Zach
My setup:
two 3010 futaba servos,
futaba 7c 2.4 tx
futaba 617 rx
using mix-1 the master is channel 2 the slave is channel 6, set to go 100% of the master
Here is what else I have tried:
switched out servos (thought one might be bad) same result
used different channels (channel 7 for the slave)
used some of the other mixes
Would it be possible to use the elevon mix?
Any advise would be very helpful. Thanks in advance
Zach
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Do you have the LINK and or TRIM turned on or off on your mix screen? Did you go to your AUX channel screen and make channel 6 NULL?
You can try both of these things.BUT. You really should be using ch 5 for the other half of your elev. Channel 6 is set up for your second aile servo. If you are using a Y harness that is fine, but if your radio is set up on a certain wing type, it will do funny things to channel 6.
david
You can try both of these things.BUT. You really should be using ch 5 for the other half of your elev. Channel 6 is set up for your second aile servo. If you are using a Y harness that is fine, but if your radio is set up on a certain wing type, it will do funny things to channel 6.
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I purchased my 7C a few years ago expecting the dual elevator function to work as described. After toying with it, I came up with the same result - one side lagged slightly... Even after speaking to Futaba support. I wound up going back to using my Futaba MSA-10 servo synchronizers(equivalant of a JR Matchbox).
That being said... I never did try flying with the elevators slightly laging so I wouldnt know if it would have any noticable effect in flight. Im sure there are tons of fliers out there that might not be as detail oriented and fly it as is. If it was a SERIOUS problem, Im sure we would have heard about it on here. So either try it as is, use a "Y", or a servo synchronizer.
I think I will try it as is out of curiousity on my next build.
That being said... I never did try flying with the elevators slightly laging so I wouldnt know if it would have any noticable effect in flight. Im sure there are tons of fliers out there that might not be as detail oriented and fly it as is. If it was a SERIOUS problem, Im sure we would have heard about it on here. So either try it as is, use a "Y", or a servo synchronizer.
I think I will try it as is out of curiousity on my next build.
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I'm using the 9-C but I have found if I'm using extensions to lengethen the wires I have had that problem. I no longer use extensions but make my own lengths by soldering wire between the servo leads to get my length. By having the servo wire soldered i no longer need to pull the extensions and clean them so it's a winning way for me to go. If you are using extensions you may want to pull the servos and wire them directly into the RX and see if it cures the problem, if so then solder and forget the extensions.
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The 9C simply can't process the commands fast enough if you're using fast servos with a lot of throw. I could make my Funtana do it on the ground all the time. It didn't effect me in the air as much because you arent moving the elevator up and down all that fast and in the areas that you are, like hovering, you arent moving it far enough.
The 7C 2.4 shouldn't do that but I haven't played with it personally.
The 7C 2.4 shouldn't do that but I haven't played with it personally.
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Zac I was reffering to the Y on the ailerons. Or do you just have one aile servo?
Zac I was reffering to the Y on the ailerons. Or do you just have one aile servo?
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I'm using the 9-C but I have found if I'm using extensions to lengethen the wires I have had that problem. I no longer use extensions but make my own lengths by soldering wire between the servo leads to get my length. By having the servo wire soldered i no longer need to pull the extensions and clean them so it's a winning way for me to go. If you are using extensions you may want to pull the servos and wire them directly into the RX and see if it cures the problem, if so then solder and forget the extensions.
I'm using the 9-C but I have found if I'm using extensions to lengethen the wires I have had that problem. I no longer use extensions but make my own lengths by soldering wire between the servo leads to get my length. By having the servo wire soldered i no longer need to pull the extensions and clean them so it's a winning way for me to go. If you are using extensions you may want to pull the servos and wire them directly into the RX and see if it cures the problem, if so then solder and forget the extensions.
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I thought the 7C 2.4 radio had a built in ailevator mix?
if it does, use that.
I thought the 7C 2.4 radio had a built in ailevator mix?
if it does, use that.
thanks for the info
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It does. I can't really figure that one out. The evelvators keep going opposite directions.
thanks for the info
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I thought the 7C 2.4 radio had a built in ailevator mix?
if it does, use that.
I thought the 7C 2.4 radio had a built in ailevator mix?
if it does, use that.
thanks for the info
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ro347- would you be able to explain how to do that? I tried to do it I just can't figure it out.
On a side note I did fly it today, I could not notice any roll rate from the elevators. I don't think it will make much of a difference, although I would like to figure out how to make them move at the same rates.
Zach
On a side note I did fly it today, I could not notice any roll rate from the elevators. I don't think it will make much of a difference, although I would like to figure out how to make them move at the same rates.
Zach
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GB- thanks for the info. I am using servo extentions, but they are brand new. I will give your idea a shot.
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I'm using the 9-C but I have found if I'm using extensions to lengethen the wires I have had that problem. I no longer use extensions but make my own lengths by soldering wire between the servo leads to get my length. By having the servo wire soldered i no longer need to pull the extensions and clean them so it's a winning way for me to go. If you are using extensions you may want to pull the servos and wire them directly into the RX and see if it cures the problem, if so then solder and forget the extensions.
I'm using the 9-C but I have found if I'm using extensions to lengethen the wires I have had that problem. I no longer use extensions but make my own lengths by soldering wire between the servo leads to get my length. By having the servo wire soldered i no longer need to pull the extensions and clean them so it's a winning way for me to go. If you are using extensions you may want to pull the servos and wire them directly into the RX and see if it cures the problem, if so then solder and forget the extensions.
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To use AILEVATOR mix on the 9C you have to plug the elevator servos into channel 2 and channel 8
Then set the AILEVATOR mix from INH to ACT (inhibited to active)
Set the AIL3 and AIL3 percentages to 0
Set ELE2 and ELE1 to 100
Set ELE1 and ELE2 to +100 The positive and negative values change the direction so play with those till they are going the right way or leave it at the default values of +100 and -100 and use the reverse function on channel2 or channel 8
Then set the AILEVATOR mix from INH to ACT (inhibited to active)
Set the AIL3 and AIL3 percentages to 0
Set ELE2 and ELE1 to 100
Set ELE1 and ELE2 to +100 The positive and negative values change the direction so play with those till they are going the right way or leave it at the default values of +100 and -100 and use the reverse function on channel2 or channel 8
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Had the same problem on one of my Q-500 "Viper" models with V-tail! One of the V-tail servos was a little slower than the other.
Changed of the Hs 225 servos I used for elevator/side rudder and it cured the problem. Different batches of Hs 225 servos...
Had the same problem on one of my Q-500 "Viper" models with V-tail! One of the V-tail servos was a little slower than the other.
Changed of the Hs 225 servos I used for elevator/side rudder and it cured the problem. Different batches of Hs 225 servos...
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Hi!
Had the same problem on one of my Q-500 ''Viper'' models with V-tail! One of the V-tail servos was a little slower than the other.
Changed of the Hs 225 servos I used for elevator/side rudder and it cured the problem. Different batches of Hs 225 servos...
Hi!
Had the same problem on one of my Q-500 ''Viper'' models with V-tail! One of the V-tail servos was a little slower than the other.
Changed of the Hs 225 servos I used for elevator/side rudder and it cured the problem. Different batches of Hs 225 servos...
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I am coming to the conclusion that I will need to buy a servo reverser to fix this problem.
I haven't really noted any roll tendonsies while flying so far, although I have only flown it once. So maybe I won't have to fix it.
It really bugs me that a new age computer radio can't make two servos move at the same speed.
I haven't really noted any roll tendonsies while flying so far, although I have only flown it once. So maybe I won't have to fix it.
It really bugs me that a new age computer radio can't make two servos move at the same speed.
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I am coming to the conclusion that I will need to buy a servo reverser to fix this problem.
I haven't really noted any roll tendonsies while flying so far, although I have only flown it once. So maybe I won't have to fix it.
It really bugs me that a new age computer radio can't make two servos move at the same speed.
I am coming to the conclusion that I will need to buy a servo reverser to fix this problem.
I haven't really noted any roll tendonsies while flying so far, although I have only flown it once. So maybe I won't have to fix it.
It really bugs me that a new age computer radio can't make two servos move at the same speed.
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This question sounds too stupid to be asked, but here it goes anyway:
Would connecting the two elevator halves mechanically, with a bridge or by joining both pushrods be an option to syncronize both deflections' angles and speeds?
(Please be kind.........[
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Would connecting the two elevator halves mechanically, with a bridge or by joining both pushrods be an option to syncronize both deflections' angles and speeds?
(Please be kind.........[
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