this is just my opinion, but cen racing is really starting to get on my nirve with their lame advertisement


like how they say the matrix beat team xray, the matrix looks like a piece of crap and looks like its made of cheap materials like their other cars. xb8 is way better then that matrix crap

i just saw an add for the nemesis and it is saying its ending the revolution and has pics. of the revo in the background..the nemesis is all right i guess but the revo is wayy more thought out and a much better truck. why would you want to own a 17lbs truck that isn't all that durable??

cen, why don't you try advertising your cars by showing people what they're really made of rather than making some dumb add. stop trying to make your cars look better than others when they're not at all...


thats all i have to say......

Why are you judging cars after you haven't driven or have one... You dont even know if the Xray is better because its mostly all in the driver and the setup it doesn't matter what buggy you have all the time.

i must say i hate the advertising for the matrix, very unoriginal using Matrix symbols from the movie.

If it sux, why has it doing pretty well against other brands?

granted it is mainly the drivers' skill, but they drive all sorts of buggies, and choose according to which one feels the best, and which company pays the best.

cen's advertisements are pissing me off too

don't have one? FYI i own 3 buggies... a jammin x1-cr, a kyosho mp777 sp1, and a hyper 7

havn't driven one?? im 30 years old, i've been driving since i was 6 for all you know...

why are you judging me when you don't know anything about me?

I can't stand cen either. They might have done something right on the matrix but it really isn't hard to look at another buggy and make the same design... for all anyone knows it could have been a fluke that the thing handles good. I do know they have don't testing and tuning with it but I'm pretty sure its the drivers that told them what they want and what changes will give it to them. Look at anything else cen has built... the parts are cheap, designs aren't well thought out. As far as I'm concerned they haven't shown any will at all to make a good performance product instead they just want money. If they really did... they would have confidence in their product instead of spending money on dumbass advertisments. Confidence like what kyosho shows with 6 back to back world championships on the MP777 box. If you don't have championships than just let the product do the talking like XRay and Mugen did. Cen as a company just isn't racing material.

then those drivers that drive them must purrty darn good, and get paid well too.

exactly, that is totally the truth

Sorry I meant that you haven't driven a matrix or have one not that you dont have a buggy; I guess you read it wrong sorry for not being specific.

you don't have to appologize dude, im sorry i came down so hard on you, it's just that cen can really really REALLY piss me off sometimes with their lame advertisement

Its okay I have a Cen SP1 and I was really Pi$$ed off at them when I first entered the hobby the car had a couple of problems like airleaks and messed up carb. and the tank having air leaks in it. After a couple of months I finally got it running. There customer support wasn't really helpful to me either one of the guys was back talking me (no I didn't ask a stupid question) for some reason after I was asking him if I could send my car to him and get them to replace the parts for free(which the manager said he could do for me) but its an okay car I don't have any problems with it anymore. Although I didnt like the guy that was being a @$*.

CEN Racing as a company (just like all new companies) has had their fair share of issues. I have seen the change that has accoured within the last 3 years, and I take pride in being a part of it.

Sorry to hear that you dont like our advertisements. However, we advertise to a broad audience and advertisments can't and will not please everyone.

I have also had alot of influence on the Matrix 1/8th scale buggy and am completely convinced that it is capable of the championships that other cars have achieved. Our first race team has been formed and 2006 will be the first year for CEN at the track.

The results will speak for themselves.

Thanks for your comments and happy holidays.

i don't really like the advertisements...but i gotta say, the matrix is a pretty sweet buggy, i like the red chassis braces. hey andrew are you going to be at THE DIRT NITRO CHALLENGE?

PATchy,

YES!! I will be there for sure. You attending? If so see ya there! Definately a fun race.




Question for everyone.

What would you like to see in an advertisement? Perhaps I can forward some valuable info to our Marketing crew.

Thanks in advance.

i would go, but i don't have a ride and i cant drive yet cause im only 14[&o] good luck though andrew.

in you advertisements, instead of comparing your products with some other companies products(like saying how the nemesis is ending the revolution and it had a picture of a revo in the background) show what your cars can actually do. like when i saw that one advertisement about how the matrix beat the whole xray team, i'm sure that made some xray owners kinda mad. the matrix is a great buggy, so show what it can do.

actually andrew, im in the process of buying a matrix right now . there is going to be a pro version right? once i get the money its going to be my new buggy


patchy

ive never been a cen fan. but i must say i am impressed with the design of the matrix. and i think it can
be very competitive. it seems very durable and handles pretty good.
super dave, we are racing sunday. come out to the track and give me a run. i need to see how the matrix
does against competition. hell ill even let you drive it, see what you think!

Whats wrong with the advertising? An ad dosen't change a company or a product the manufacture. markp10, dude your flippin 30 years old! Why would you waste forum space for this pointless thread? Grow up. D*mn!

cen has really steppped up there game there new trucks and buggy are awesome you need to see there new nemesis and matrix up close and personal before you jump to conclusions. stop judging them on things from the pass because there coming strong with great quality and performance product. if we judged the revo by what the tmaxx was nobody would have it. they need to do what ever flashy advertisement the need to make there product stand out when there is so much compatition. advertisement is what help drive sales. if it was your product and you were trying to sell it you would say its the greatest thing in the world. so grow up

Same here.

I had a cen genesis for about a year. I must say it is byfar THE most unreliable piece of **** I ever saw. broken drivetrain EVERY time I drove it. Bad radio, bad overall quality pluss my 26 picco savage spunk its ass. where is those 5 horses? I never found them anyway. After several breakdowns I took it back to my hobbyshop and they gave me my money back I`ll never ever buy a cen car again. did I mention it overpriced too, for just a little more money you can get the fg monster

personally i think the matrix looks awsome. the radio looks nice i like the captured hinge pins the chassis braces while not billet are still better then the pivot ball ones on most buggies(i'm talking rtr)i like the way the tank has the splash gaurd that goes the whole way around it. and like all new vehicles it may have some problems. but it should turn out to be a sweet buggy. as far as advertising i've not seen the ones you guys are griping about but the ones i saw seemed normal. and look at some other companies. they all make it seem like they are so much better then the rest. what do you want them to say buy our buggy, it isn't as good as the other guys but buy it anyway. if you don't like the company or their cars then don't buy them. next fall i'm buying a new buggy and if there is a pro model in kit form it will be the matrix.

my lhs had all 12 cen genesis they sold last year come back to the store within a week....trans and diff problems.......i watched my buddy who owns the store tell off the cen guy at the chicago show last year...it was quite funny actually and it was quickly followed up by an argument with a japanese dude from thunder tiger........then a entirley seperate issue i watched the ceo of proline go over to the power racing booth and get into a heated argument with some japanese lady over stealing a proline body design...it was hilarious the jap lady won that argument she say you go home you go home..... then the cen guys did a freestyle show in the center of the convention center and 2 of their star drivers could not get their trucks started.....excellent preperation for a demo in front of 100 people guys keep it up and mayby thinder tiger will buy you out

wow... sounds like you really dont like CEN with all that never ending chicago show demo story. I was at RCX this year, many top brand like kyosho was demoing and broke too but that didnt change my views about them. Anyways, they ads start to getting better.... i really like the new Matrix ad with Jason ashton in there.. make me proud of my matrix... hehe

I hated cen as well. They were pretty much the bottom of the barrel in nitro to choose from. I race with trackman every weekened that we can and he got the matrix just to have something to mess with. It really did surprise me.... all of the parts are made of high quality especially the turn buckles which look indestructable. It has quite a few adjustments thought I didn't get a look at the more detailed ones it had everything you needed. The radio was decent but the teeth in the steering servo stripped on the second day out. With some setting up it deffinatly has potential to be a serious racer and the quality is there. Even the engine is doing damn good. It isn't lots of power but its reliable and easy to tune.

Sorry Scott I haven't been here for a while so didn't see your challenge for this weekend otherwise I would have had my buggy together. The matrix was fun to drive but it still needed some setting up on those rear shocks they were to stiff. I can't say how it handled compaired to my kyosho because I haven't driven my kyosho on the kind of conditions we had today but it felt like it was fast enough to be up front if we had a race and you didn't traction roll because of the grip we had today.