Hello i would just like to say have been very helpfull i have learned alot from reading your post.
i am looking to get into 1/8 buggy racing i have a 1/10 buggy and its coll but my brother just got his thunder tiger EB4 s3 rtr kit and it sick makes my 1/10 scale red cat racing tornado BB seem a toys r us toy im looking to find a rtr car for around $400 because we want to start racing at the local track can anyone recommend something thats a good buy

i want to pick between three cars the thunder tiger EB4 S3,the cen racing matrix R2,or exceed madfire GP

Dont get the exceed. They are much cheaper made, and hardly any parts support. Out of those listed, I would pick the CEN. It is a great buggy for the money from what i have heard, and it also comes with good radio gear. Im not sure about the thunder tiger, but I think i would take the CEN over it.

thanks i will compare the two cen vs thunder tiger i know after getting one i will be looking to up grade and what ever one i can get parts for without any problems thats the one im getting

there is no question.the cen.best bang for the buck.you can find the hyper 8,8.5 conversion kit cheaper since the 9 came out.in my opinion the ofna is the better way ta go.there is parts galore for it .its made better and you dont have to pull start it if you dont wanna because once you go with a starter box youll never go back.but on the other hand if your not going to upgrade things the cen remote is better.but overall its better ta save your money longer and put a kit tagether,its kinda like when people buy motorcycles,they buy a 600cc and its great at first,until ya ride for a while and get better and can only do first gear wheelies an everybody is smokin you and you kick yourself every day and hate it cause u coulda waited and got a 1000cc.

i was looking at kits but theres alot i didnt want to get into yet like picking a motor ,a pipe theres a lot to learn and i didnt want to spend $800-$1000 and burn it to the ground or find out that the parts i got need more part to make them work i was looking for the easy way to start out just something to learn with driving and tune i was look in the classifide on here but i didnt know if i would get ripped off but theres alot of stuff i would mind buying

I also think Ofna is hard to beat. A lot of people like this buggy from what i have read:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXRUS1&P=ML

whats the diffents between the ofna hyper and the mbx ultra towerhobby sales the mbx for $319 rtr with a rotor start .26 and the hyper 7 tq for @299 rtr .21 but besides the motors are the cars the same

Im not sure about that. A .21 is legal for racing at most places which is probably why the 7 has the smaller .21 in it. Hopefully someone can answer your question.

Eric

so if i get a kit to put together my self and i go for a .21 what do the ports do i seen three pirt motors 4 port and more

In short, the more ports, the more top speed. And vise versa. But with the new competation engines being lower port engines, like the Novarossi Plus4, 4 port engine it kind of throws that theory out of the window.

so really it just a testing thing seems like you will never no till you try them out thanks chris

Madfire is the cheapest and most race ready of them all. The other two brands fall apart very easily.

what are the hopp up parts like are there and and how easy is it to get parts for it

parts are available online. if you go to a hobby store they usually have to order it anyways and it takes about 1.5 weeks.

The OFNA Picco is a good buggy with a great engine for around $300