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I am thinking about buying the PCR or the PBS but i don't no.I like the PCR but i heard that the PCR has weak servos.I have not looked up alot about the PBS.Whats the better Package between them?I don't care if i have to buy new servos.If the PCR did not have weak servos which one would you go for and why?thxs cya

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get a mugen mbx5, kyosho 777, or xray xb8r, the servos they come with should be pretty comparable to the ones on the hypers.

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I dont care about the servos i jusy what to no which one is better PCR or the PBS thx bye

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PBS IS SUPERIOR

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The PCR RTR is just a PBS with lay down servos, and a couple of other things that don't matter much. And the more useful parts are not on the PCR RTR. In fact, I don't think it has one PCR part on it. You'd be money ahead to get the PBS, and go form there. There's nothing wrong with either car, I just think the PCR RTR is too much money for what you get over the PBS. Even the RTR is fine if you don't mind replacing servos. The plastic starter box that comes with the PBS is nothing to brag about. The wheel doen't last long, and it's just not that though. The PBS is priced right however, with or without the starter box. The RTR is about 10 or 15 bucks less. My advice would be to get the PBS or RTR, and use the extra cash to put towards more useful hop-ups like tires, electronics, ditching the pull-start, or maybe a useful PCR part or two. Youy can even get into a Hyper7 TQ Sport kit for 239 bucks from Tower, and choose your own engine, and radio gear. If you really want to go with a top notch kit, get the Pro, and build it yourself, and choose your own stuff to finish it up. Along with the stronger servos, you'll need to get a 5-cell reciever battery and charger for it. The double "A" batteries won't let your high torque servos perform due to lack of voltage, and short run times.

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Hey, Out of all the Hypers which do you think i should get. The one you say i am going to get. thx. Do you have aol or msn messengers.

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If you want a RTR, go for the PBS RTR, it is the same as the PCR RTR which I have, but without the annoying lay down servo setup. People have so many problems with other RTRs but mine has been perfect since day 1.

All RTRs will have sub-par servos included in the kit. At LEAST upgrade the steering servo. It would also be a smart thing to invest in a 20$ Ofna Failsafe and a 5 cell receiver pack. Junk the 4AA holder.

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Depending on your budget, the recommendation would probably change greatly. Here's a break down on pricing... Im going by nitrohouse and towerhobbies prices...

RTR:
PBS RTR - 459.99
SMC 5-Cell Flat Receiver Pack - 17.99
Ofna charger for receiver pack - 7.59
Hitec 645MG servo for steering (What I'm using) - 39.99
Total: about 525$

Kit, No Budget
PCR Pro - 474.95
JR XS3 Radio with servos - 199.99
Good quality servos for throttle and steering - about 150
Ofna chrome top starter box w/ power panel, 12v batt, charger - about 125
OS. 21RG (cheaper motor but a good one) - 109.99 (Choice of motor is up to you, but unless you really want crazy power, the RG is fine)
Receiver pack and charger
Total: about 1000

Kit, lower budget
Hyper 7 TQ Sport - 239.99
JR XS3 Radio with servos (use Z590 for steering and the other for throttle) - 199.99
Ofna chrome top starter box w/ power panel, 12v batt, charger - about 125
OS .21RG - 109.99
Receiver pack and charger
Total: about 650

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I Am just Going to get the PBS thx.cheap and want have to save money forever lol thx again.do you have a messenger where i dont have to keep talking on posts.lol

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I have AIM, SlidefreakS13

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Raddick, do you have a new buddie....

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What?...

He asked if I had a messenger so he could ask questions without posting and waiting for a reply...

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don't you want to wait until hyper 8 come out ?

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where is gibston florida? you sound really young, do u mind if we ask how old you are? what do u plan to do with your buggy? have u ever had a nitro vehicle before?

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i have the pbs, it is great, i hav not had any probs with survos yet.

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I am 15 i live by Tampa,this will be my first nirto buggy,my first nitro ever.and me and my dad just went to hobbytownusa and ordered the pbs it going to be here sometime next week i cant wait.anyone have any pointers about breakin i read the breakin thing on Ofna.com will ttyl bye

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i am going to just bash it around for now entel i get batter with nitro and i will think about racing after that.

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i dont like the hyper 8 it looks stupid.sry about all the post in a line

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You should try to do a search on this forum. The break-in of a Hyper 21 has been discussed many times.

I think that the Bess method is the way to go.

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Since it's your first nitro, just know it isn't as easy as it looks on your first time around. Be patient, and if you aren't 100% sure what to do, ask here first before you possibly make a problem worse.

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Entel are a phone company and I only get batter on my fish after I've been racing.

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Entel is a phone company ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Pot calling the kettle black again,,, huh bud?

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lol sry about that i cant spell that good.lol.i should of used spell check.lol.

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I want to get duel breaks for it to where can i buy them?

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Hyper 7s already include a dual brake setup...

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Don't bother,,, the stocks are fine otherwise get a set of Craddock brake disks
they work great as well

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the PBS vs. traditional knuckles are a bit thick and slow on the turning but are nearly unbreakable. this setup is synonymous to the mugen.

if your going to get the hyper, wait a bit for this:

http://www.ofna.com/hyper8.html
http://www.ofna.com/movs/hyper8.mov
http://www.ofna.com/movs/

smart design by coleman. sideways steering servo ensures zero rub on servo body, better balance and lower center of G. even the gas tank is thought out for 20-30 minute A-mains. i saw my pitman reaching in looking for the fuel lid. lost about 5 seconds of time on that with the traditional tank design. had to pit 3 times. keep that in mind.

the hyper, when racing or bashing, is sturdy and hardly ever breaks. the kyosho on the other hand unless upgraded with $200 worth of fioroni or after market components, is built to be light for racing. the shock towers will bend. if you don't get the sp1-2 kits, the chassis will bend as well.

when test driving the 9.5 pro i found the kit heavy, and slow on turning. even with some serious tow out on the front with a 200oz steering servo. i wasn't impressed. some footage of the 9.5 in the middle. first orange car is a kyosho kanai 1. http://www.unethkl.com/rctrack/Aliso9.wmv the 9.5 comes with the force .25 engine i believe. that engine weighs about twice that of the C5 rody seen on the kyosho. weight is key when jumping, going into turns and coming out of turns. momentum will put push your car to the outside of the track on turns. look how tight colemans kit turns.

the kyosho is great for serious racing. by serious i mean you plan on spending upwards of $2000 for your kit (sp2), servos (aitronics 94358, or new hitech titanium series, 333oz.), radio (mx3 and up), modified engine and pipe (WS7 II, C5 BB or nova rosi p5 modified - 086 pipe or jammin), starter box and accessories. the kit components are refined, well thought out and superbly machined. you can see the difference in sensitivity between kits on the track. the kyosho takes a bit longer to learn to control than other kits. (very sensitive).

note: keep in mind that coleman normally uses torsion diffs front, center and rear on his prototypes. performance on his buggies out of the turns will be more aggresive than the average stock or pro kit.

if you go with the hyper, be sure to get the PCR pro kit. the upgrades are worth it. as soon as this one comes out i will buy one and run both kyosho and ofna, and see what's up.

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Oh boy.

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I ordered the PBS two day ago.And i dont like the hyper 8 it looks stupid.i will like it when i see what it has on it.

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which PBS kit are you refering to?

mugen mbx 5, 9.5, lx, or hyper?

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The Hyper 7 PBS RTR.

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Rule of thumb is most RC's that come with servo's have cheap servo's. I have the PBS and love it. I have converted mine to electric though. Still my favorate out of all my RC's I have.

Hope that helps.

Cheers -

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What servos should I get. I want cheap ones and good ones.Do i have to get a new throttle/break servo? Or should I just by a new radio that comes with 1 or 2 servos?

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a good throttle brake servo for an 1/8 scale - i have this in my mugen, hs645mg

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I usually get the JR Racing metal gear high torque servo's. Get them off EBay for around $35 or so including shipping. They are not the best but work well for the price IMO.

Here is my Hyper 7 PBS:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=467

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What steering servo should i get?some where around 120?

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Futaba s3305 - 38$
JR z650m - 50$
Hitec 5645 - 46$

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Airtronics 94358z, $95 best steering servo there is. For other info, check out the other current thread on servos named 'servo help'.

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ya the pbs version just uses the Pivot Ball Suspension instead of c hubs, whitch really improves turning and handling

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Actually, the PCR also has PBS suspension. Also, The advantage of PBS is the extra on-car adjustability and the strength, the c-hubs actually give you more steering.