Hi;Was recently reading thru some old mags and found article on Comabt meet in Europe I believe.They were using bueatiful foam warbirds with 15 engines?Are these kind of planes available somewhere?Not really into combat just keeping up is a major project but these planes were really neat and apparently durable too.They also had some real nice looking twins theywere flying.Can these kind of planes be purchased here anywhere?Showed picture of kit was all foam looked simple to build too.Thanks

start at my favorite www.jkaerotech.com I have flown their Mustangs, Zero and Jugs. Once you see how they're done, you can make your own to your harts content.

Hi there Mr.Clean;That looks like the things I saw in that article.Look to be simple and pretty durable.Have 2 Magnum 28s in a GP P-38 that need to be broken in sounds like they would work good in these,Like to get some time on them before the P-38 flys.You have used them?Thanks for the info I just didn't know where to look,Also like the thing they had about putting gear on them as for sport would be nice.Thanks much!

Hello!
Aircombat is very popular over here in Sweden. Flew it myself some years ago. See pictures of my own constructed German "Tank Buster" Henschel 129 A. Powered by two OS FP .10 engines driving 7x5 APC props. Span is 110cm and weight is 1360g.
Fueltanks are two Tettra "Bubbleless" 85cc (3,5oz) tanks.
I have plans available if anyone is interested.
Scale combat (with either .15 or .21 engines depending of full aircraft size is what is flown over here, no other class of combat).
For more information have a look at the ACES international site.
http://aces.flugmodellbau.de/international/aces.htm

Regards!
Jan K
Sweden

Get the jug, your 28 will pull more prop than my Norvels will and it can use it. Launching with the Norvels however was not that bad but a 10 inch prop would have made it better. I was flying P-51s with Norvel 25's and straight muffler, no need for pipe on these as I was flying at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle most the time to keep from overrunning the competition. I think they have an SBD as well which has more wing and not quite as much forward area as the Jug, might be a good deal. One thing I used to do different though was instead of forming the fuse and then cutting into for a tank, I would hollow the fuse halves for the tank initially, then use Gorrilla glue or Elmers Polyu to actully foam the tank in. I use the Hayes tanks. You have to know where the centerline of your engine is in this method as I would then cut the firewall center prescribed by the Hayes mount out of the plywood. You can access the overflow and fuel pickup plug from whole in the engine mount while it's still in the airplane, something I've had to do from time to time. If you do this, swap out the piece of ply they use for a piece of good aircraft quality ply. There's is fine as a one piece structure but my fuel tank mod cuts down on it's integrety a bit. Translation, if you dorque this sucker straight into the ground from 100 feet and full speed, it tends to get squishy. Field tested there.

When you launch by the way, these planes do suffer from the right rudder needed on takeoff that most scale planes do. By the way, you have no rudder and wouldn't have time to use it anyways. When you launch these, if you launch them flat at the horizon, they will skew off about 15 to 20 degrees before the airspeed cancels out the torque. It looks like you've just let go of a Control Line Rat Racer is what it looks like. You should launch it about 20 degrees up with your right wing dipped a bit and the whole point becomes moot.

I launched mine level and low once and it dropped down to the deck leaving prop cuts in the turf till it picked up enough speed for me to ease back on the stick. Pulling hard on the stick would have smacked the tail on the ground. Anyways, after I cleared the ground I pulled full back and it just rocketed almost straight up and into the action. I've compared it to watching the gun camera footage you see on the history channel of the airplanes straifing airfields. It was kinda amusing seeing the cuts in the runway, closer together at first and farther apart about 20 feet away. I never did really great flying combat, but I didn't totally suck either and the last time I flew I totally kicked butt, powered that is. Last time I flew slope combat I couldn't stay in the air let alone combat.

By the way, follow the links on the JKaerotech website, they show you how to build the aiprlanes step by step. It's great and you'll find yourself running back and forth from table to monitor.

Hi;Jaka:
Is that plane a foam type?You said you had the plans for it?Never worked with foam looks like some of the ones I see are cut out.Some communication with fellow from the ACES group I think they are Russian but there planes look to be fiberglass molded bodies with foam wings trying to get more info from the fellow,a benderfly I believe.Thanks Bob!

I flew JKA P-74Ns for the 2003 season.

It's a pretty good plane, and it makes a darn good first scale combat plane.

Hi!
No!
My HS 129 is made entirely of balsa (glass fiber nacelles and Coke plastic bottle cowls) coverd with oracover.
Most fliers over here in Sweden uses foam planes covered with brown paper or ordinary news papper.

Regards!
Jan K

JKaerotech produces a nice variety of foamy combat kits. Ziggs Originals, and Warzone Models are also nice foam combat ships. Look through RCUniverse, or Ebay classifieds. One should be easy to find. RTC

Try Mainly Models Hitchin UK for kits. The Hellcat or Hurricane are good fly for fun models.

He even does a 4 engine Lanc!

Bought a Warzone P40 from RCU classifieds 35$ shipped. I am putting a Irvine .25 on it. This is my first combat plane will the Irvine .25 be a good engine for her?
David E.

Yes, that engine will work fine, you'll have tons of power. I *think* that kit was actually designed for smaller engines, so you could run in to a weight problem if you're not careful. Just be careful on launch and if you get slow.

Kirk
Thanks the instructions say 15 to 25 and I will be careful on take offs and if I ever decide to go slow
David E.