Hey, I am new to the whole r/c with the exception off the tyco trucks I had as a kid. Me and a few friends go tinto them around Christmas. We all got offroad, but I think I want an onroad car to try drifting with, I don't really see having one to just drive around the lot, but drifting would be fun. I bought an hpi rush for offroad, and like it except I am having engine trouble, but bought a new one so that is hopefully fixed. I have been looking at buying an hpi rs4. What do you all think of these cars? I want to go nitro and shaft driven, I know it is more money, but I think that is what I want. Do you think nitro is good, or should I look into electric? Also I have looked at the stage d kits, are the good or just unnessicary? I like the rs4 ss cars. I appreciate any other sugestions or info on cars. Thanks

Seriously, don't buy a touring car just for drifting. You'd be better off getting a savage or another offroad vehicle for the fun factor. Look at it from the sidelines, would you rather be enjoying the hobby with your friends or watching a car slide around a parking lot by yourself?

If you're persistant on drifting, go for the RS4 3 EVO RTR. It has plently of hop-up options ( including the stage-d drift conversion ) and out of the box will be the best bang for your buck, hands down.

I will definately be keepin the offroad car too, I just thought it would be fun to get into, and if I get into it some of the rest of them will too, what about the electrics? are they any better and for what reasons are why are they worse?

I've had my share of electric r/c's, but it's something I have 'grown' out of. The bad, motor rebuilds ( brush and comm ), short run times, battery charging down time. The good, not much clean up, yeah... that's about it. Price wise I find nitro to be cheaper in the end, and what beats filling the tank with fuel and bashing?