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Old 01-10-2006 | 01:45 PM
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Old 01-12-2006 | 01:21 AM
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Hello All,
It's 1am and the King Cat is finished! I'll send the files to Dion after this post and with that hopefully the model will be available for download soon. Thanks for all your kind words, I hope you like this new model. A special thanks to Karl-Heinz (Rodeo) He helped me many times learning this stuff in the past
Time for bedzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old 01-12-2006 | 01:29 AM
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That is incredible Pat! Thanks a million! Get some sleep!

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Old 01-12-2006 | 06:00 AM
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TWRC thank you so much.........that is great work...........have a great week...Max1[8D]
Old 01-12-2006 | 06:16 AM
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just awesome[X(]
Old 01-12-2006 | 07:49 AM
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POSTED! THANKS PATRICK! Flies amazing.

Direct link for registered users: http://aeroflypro.com/ipw-web/bullet...hp?p=2040#2040

Link for non registered: http://www.aeroflypro.com/download (look in General Aviation)

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Old 01-12-2006 | 09:25 AM
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It's stunning[X(] thanks Pat!!!!

And we sort of have vectoring thrust tooooo! I've somehow got to move the ring onto the jet nozzle....any ideas?[sm=confused.gif]

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Old 01-12-2006 | 11:33 AM
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Here's a vid: [link=http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/Deliver.asp?cxInstID=15770324&nodeID=20523336&retu rnPage=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Estreamload%2Ecom%2FNodes %2FNode%2Easp%3FcxInstID%3D15770324%26nodeID%3D113 9463089%26alreadyCurrentTab%3Dtrue]KingCat Vectoring Thrust[/link]

Sorry about the choppy landing!

BW!

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Old 01-14-2006 | 12:38 PM
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Very Cool Greg. Nice Video. The graphic issue is more than likely a conflict between the TMD and TMG files. Did you rename anything Jetcat in the TMD file? Becaue if you did the name jetcat is defined as a sub object of the fuselage so the location has not been defined. Another thing I thought of is if you tried to make the Jetcatobject graphically move in combination with the power source named Turbine you would have to redefine the object Jetcat as a main object in the TMG and create new lines in the TMD file for the Jetcat. I a only guessing on how you did what you did

Great Job

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Old 01-14-2006 | 01:10 PM
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Hey Greg, I looked at the Harpoon files and it’s now clear to how the thrust vectoring works.

cd JointRingThruster/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.5558, 0.0000, 0.0433, 1 )

cd JointFuselageRing/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.5558, 0.0000, 0.0433, 1 )

cd Ring/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, -0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.5565, 0.0004, 0.0433, 1 )


cd Thruster/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( -0.0000, 1.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.5565, 0.0004, 0.0433, 1 )

On the “R†lines (-0.5565) need to be moved farther forward. I’ll be back with a ball park coordinate.





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(-0.5558) needs to be changed to (-0.4334) in order to locate the Ring just behind the Jetcat's nozzle
I recommend making a backup of your present TMD file before making changes to it. It would have saved me many problems in the past

let me know how it works for you.
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Thanks very much Pat!

I'll tell you how it goes!

BW!

Greg.
Old 01-14-2006 | 02:11 PM
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Hi Pat,

I can't get it working[]!

Which values do I need to change?

I've changed the TMD to look like this:

cd JointRingThruster/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.4334, 0.0000, 0.0433, 1 )

cd JointFuselageRing/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.4334, 0.0000, 0.0433, 1 )

cd Ring/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, -0.0000, 0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 1.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.4334, 0.0004, 0.0433, 1 )


cd Thruster/
X = tmvector4r( 1.0000, 0.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Y = tmvector4r( -0.0000, 1.0000, -0.0000, 0 )
Z = tmvector4r( 0.0000, 0.0000, 1.0000, 0 )
R = tmvector4r( -0.4334, 0.0004, 0.0433, 1 )

Old 01-14-2006 | 03:19 PM
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That's odd...?????? your structure looks right. There must be something simple we are not seeing. May I have the TMD and TMG files to look at? [email protected]
What are the results your seeing? Did you modify the object File with a "ring" Object or is aerofly reading the object file from the Harpoon folder. Aerofly will do this if the specific aircraft folder dose not have the object defined in the TMD file aerofly will sometimes look elsewhere for if. I've seen this before, and then you could change the location lines in the Kingcat's TMD file but will make no difference because it's reading the Harpoon's TMD file. You could answer this question by temporarily removing the Harpoon form the aircraft folder and run the Kingcat. if you don't see the "Ring" graphic you know aerofly was reading the Harpoon files looking for the Object "Ring" and thus the TMD file that goes alone with it. It that case I can modify the .suf file and create a new Jetcat.obj file for the King Cat. I'm just throwing out possibilities but would need to see the TMD/TMG files to know for sure what exacly the problem is. I Know we can fix it

Pat
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I'll send it over to you Pat it's the easiest way

BW!

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Old 01-14-2006 | 03:39 PM
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I had another idea, In the future you could rename the .OBJ Jetcat to Ring in bother the OBJ and the TMG fils and then the whole turbine would move. That would eliminate the need to modify the .suf wire frame file. Just a idea
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Old 01-15-2006 | 12:44 PM
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Very nice job on this model! You did it. I just need to add more lag to the turbine spool up. The vector looks fun!
Anyone try a crow setting yet for landings? I'll try to get this model to fly as close to the real one for flight training.

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Old 01-15-2006 | 06:47 PM
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How does one go ahead and get the 3D version??????
Old 01-17-2006 | 01:28 AM
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The new vector thrust model is online, right next to the other one.
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can anyone build a JR diablo 2000 please?


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Old 02-13-2006 | 07:07 AM
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Get some 3 views of it and someone will do it. Lots of people around the world model for AFPD. Eventually everything asked for appears.
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TWRC, that is very impressive. I have been fooling around with Metasequoia also, but with less successful results: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3857320/tm.htm

and: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3887423/tm.htm

I have two questions, if you don't mind. One, how do you create round wingtips like the ones on your Stearman? Smooth wingtips have been the most challenging part for me to make so far (see my Kaos and Falcon above).

Second, does the newest free version now export .x files? I have been using 21a because 23b will not export working .x files.

Thanks, and great work.
Old 01-31-2007 | 11:57 PM
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Rainedave,
sorry I didn't post sooner in response to your question. I didn't realize there were unread questions on this post. I attached some picture to help illustrate my methods to make round wing tips. The scale tool is wonderful
I'm using Version R2.3 LE(23b) and it only Exports as .SUF not .X files. You can Save files as .X and try to open it in another program but I've been unsuccessful using programs like Autocad 2000.
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Old 04-29-2007 | 06:11 PM
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I can't find this model anywhere... Could someone give me direct link to file or send it to my email??


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