Real Flight G3!
 

I heard it's coming out in 1 month

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Where did you hear that?

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Go to Tower R/C News section to read about it, it seems that a good thing is coming....

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I found it
Here is the link
http://www.towerhobbies.com/rcwnews/...-gpmz4400.html

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I took the plunge and ordered it. I'll report on it when I get.

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If I can get someone to puy my version of G2, I will probably do the same thing.

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you may not have to, there is an upgrade cd from g2 lite to g2, so there will probably be one from g2 to g3

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im looking to buy a used G2

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Hi,

flying on G2 for quite awhile on my laptop, will definitely look forward to G3!

Any infor about system requirement? or is same as what you need to run a G2!

Best regards

Albert

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There will not be an upgrade for G3. You will have to buy the whole package, but all add-ons are compatible.

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How do you know this? All previous versions have had some kind of upgrade path, seems strange that they'd stop that all of a sudden...

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Because I work at our local hobby shop and have seen the new greatplanes catalog and there is not an upgrade listed just the whole package. Also the shop owner has talk to them, and that is what they told him. They told us it was incompatible with G2, but that all add-on will work.

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Anyone have any ScreenShots? I herd that G3 comes with ZERO (Thats 0) Helicopters in it! That means you gotta spend an extra $30 on top of $299 to get a COMPLETE RC Sim.... What a ripoff.

Does anyone have any screenshots yet? I seriously doubt it will be able to compete with AreoFlight in the physics department and wont even come close to ReflightXTR

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screen shots are in latest Fly R/C, and it looks goooood. And, it is $199 from Tower, or $179 if you use 010J4 as your AD CODE ($20 coupon). Not a bad deal. I bet the physics rival AFP and looks better than XTR. Kind of the best of both worlds.

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I have the lastest (November 04) issue of FlyRC and I can't find the shots. Any page number or can you post scans?

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Is it me...or is $200 or more just a bit much for software????

Yes... G2 lite has helped me... but $200 and no upgrade path???

WOW![:-][&o]

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I agree. $299 list, $200 sale...whatever it is, it's rediculous. There's plenty of games out there with far superior graphics and physics engines (Doom3, Unreal 2k4, etc). Those games always start around $50! Where do these guys get off charging this redic. price? Perhaps they have a niche market and the other games see much higher sales, but c'mon...I'd much rather spend $200 elsewhere on parts or whatnot...

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newbieT,

What you are not taking into consideration when you mention games such as Doom3, Unreal, etc., is that these are marketed and sold to a much greater percentage of the public than rc flight simulators. So, idSoftware makes their profit from sheer volume of sales, making only a few bucks per sale, whereas, Knife Edge Softwae and Great Planes have to make more money per sale to turn a profit. Certainly, if they sold as many G3's as Doom3's, then the price would probably be comparable.

You are also getting hardware, the controller, with the software. Adds to the cost.

I don't mean to belittle you, just pointing out the reasons why they are charging so much. That said, I do believe they could sell this for $150 and more people would buy it.

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I try to take that into consideration, but the price point is still too high imo. That's all I was saying.

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Somoney, If you read the whole page on towerhobbies you would have seen in the end it said "Helicopter functions available by free upgrade in Spring 2005."

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The screenshot is on pg 38 of the latest FlyRC along with a sales blurb.


Chris

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can someone like take a snapshot of the page? i don't get FlyRC and REALLY REALLY REALLY want to see a screenshot

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Not in the November issue - you must have the December FlyRC. It's not out yet in my area.

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My .02 about the cost....

So far, I have purchased Realflight, the Realflight upgrade, and G2. I know that they bit my checkbook initially. However, when I consider how many times I have crashed while learning a manuver, I am realistically THOUSANDS of dollars ahead. Ok - so this sounds like I really suck at flying. Not really. Keep in mind I have almost 2k in my H1 SU-31 - one crash of that pup and I could have bought 10 G3's to work with......

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I just got back from the Hobby Visions show in Vegas and spent a decent amount of time on AFP, Reflex and G3! The G3 was still a Beta version and didn't have full funcionality but I can tell you the physics are every bit as good or better than AFP. The field I was flying on was huge and the graphics were excellent. You could see the background reflected off the Monocote of the plane up close and the flying was very realistic. It doesn't have the photograph background like Reflex but flew more realistically and the interface is excellent. The airplane editing is somewhat like a CAD program and there was way more features than I could explore in the hour or so I spent playing with it.

I was told there isn't going to be an upgrade but a rebate program is being worked on. Add-ons will work and making new planes and graphics will be much easier.

One thing I tried and seemed to work was landing on the side of a building (hovering up to it and touching the wheels). When I did it wrong and touched the wing or canopy it crashed but the wheels would sit against the building. Has anyone tried this with the other sims?

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Uhhh yeah you can do it with AFP. You can even hang the plane up by its wheels on some stuff. ;)

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From the Tower Hobbies news page mentioned above:

"From park flyers to 3D aerobats, slope soarers to Reno racers, plus helis and gliders, there's a wide variety of models to appeal to every modeler's tastes.
*RealFlight G3 heli functions are available to all G3 purchasers as a free update! Software will be available Spring 2005. "

In other words, there seem to be helicopters included but not from the start.

Krister

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Yes, it's the December issue.


Chris

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I think one very important issue is being overlooked with the new G3 for former G2 and g2 Lite owners.

The system requirements is going to be heavy for the new G3 version. This software is really going to need a newer computer system which everyone doesn't own. The G3 requirements aren't listed yet but if the system is parallel to, if not better than Reflex XTR, then the computer system is really going to need a make over for older G2 owners using older (3-4 y/o systems). Below are G2 and Reflex XTR minimum requirements. I'm sure nobody wants to buy a new computer to be able to use one software program. Remember, these are the minimum requirements.

G2 Minimum System Requirements

•Windows® XP*, 2000*, ME, 98 (Local administrator access required)
•Intel® Pentium® 300 or equivalent
•Dire X™ 8 (or above) compatible video and sound card
•3D accelerated video card with 8 MB (or more) RAM (VooDoo 1 and VooDoo 2 video cards are not supported)
•64 MB RAM
•500 MB hard drive space
•4X CD-ROM drive

Optimum System Requirements

Optimum System Requirements
•Intel Pentium 600 or equivalent
•3D accelerated video card with 16 MB (or more) RAM (VooDoo 1 and VooDoo 2 video cards are not supported)
•128 MB RAM

Reflex XTR Minimum system requirements

• 1.2GHz PC Pentium 4 processor
• 256MB RAM
• 1GB available disc space
• DirectX 8.1-capable 3D hardware accelerated video card with at least 32MB video RAM (AGP2x or better; shared RAM is not supported)
• CD drive
• USB port
• RC transmitter with student or DSC socket and at least 4 channels
• Windows 98/98SE/ME/2000 or XP operating system

A older system will probably work, but will not be as smooth.

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When you buy a new computer, you just need the box, not everything else. $400 should easily get you the speed you need. And if you go to a good shop, you can just have the necessary components replaced for even less as long as your current box isn't too old.

If you use the sim a lot, it's a good investment. I'm likely going to upgrade next summer, after the heli upgrade is available, the bugs have been worked out of the program and CPU's are just a little faster.

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i got a 3.2 GHz with 1-24 mb of ram, and a GeForce Ultra 5700 FX video card, run around 400 fps on G2 with 1280x1024 resolution and graphics all the way up. And some people seem to be sayin that G3 is crap cuz you need a new computer,

People have their own opinions and will get it and a new computer, or use what they have, they don't have to go without G3 just becuz they don't have the greatest PC in the world

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The price is redicilious. Some of the TOP Real flight sims are 50 bucks or less. And if your talking volume www.x-plane.com one of the msot advanced real flight simulators runs 50 dollars a pop with free upgrades.

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I have also heard of the G3, I forgot where, but I did hear something about it. Not on here though. I wish that I could get it. I did hear that there will be no helis on it.

BTW, I'm looking foward to seeing some screenshots if someone gets it if it's really coming out!

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As a pilot I can tell you that what you call "top real flight sims" are but a toy compared to the real thing. X-Plane is IMO better than Microsoft FS9 but it's not realistic in all aspects.

X-Plane likes to tout their system as being so close to real life that you can model a plane in it, go build it and fly it the same. Ever hear of the Atlantica, it was designed on X-Plane and did fine in the sim. They company made a big deal of modeling it in x-plane and built it, then crashed it. They never progressed beyond the initial crash which showed it was pretty unstable and nothing more has been heard from them since April of 2003. It did fine in X-Plane, I in fact flew it in X-Plane and it was solid. Real life proved X-Plane was not accurate enough. The flight by the way was not intended to happen, but as I was given the understanding it was so unstable that the thing took off before it should have, or it was going to crash big time. Nice plane and I wanted one.

I have flown personally several of the planes that X-Plane models, they do not handle like the sim portrays. FS9 is even worse than that.

Those $50 sims as you say, and X-Plane is normally more than that and the upgrades are for the version level you buy into, they are not realistic in my personal experience. I own both FS9 and X-Plane, and a Cessna 150, and have flown every Cessna from a C140 to a C182 and they do not fly like the sims as you believe. So if you buy X-Plane 7 now, and it's worth every penny of the $25, you will not get X-Plane 8 for free. Not if Austin behaves like normal. It used to be if you bought into version 6, when 7 come out you had to buy it again. But you got every version of 6 he made, and he made lots of version of 5, 6, and 7. IMO best sim out there, but not accurate enough compared to real life, but it's close.

Sorry, unless you just want to practice flying on instruments and can ignore the unrealistic behavior it's not as close to the real thing as you've been led to believe. I've griped for years to Austin that it isn't modeling a simple slip accurately as have many others, and it got worse with every version until I finally quit buying into the new versions because he was adding eye candy and not fixing the flight model. It for a long time couldn't even do a loop and he finally tricked it out so it could, but it wasn't accurate because he tricked it.

By the way, when I first bought X-Plane it cost me almost $200, and others paid more than that for it. You get what you pay for.

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As a real pilot I can tell you as well the new x-plane versions are very accurate. Accurate Enough to be approced for FAA FLIGHT SIMULATOR testing for every certificate from private through atp.

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Just preordered G3 after not being satisifed at all with the other sims looks like Aero3D.net will make a come back when it arrives.

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BS. The sim does not need to handle correctly to be certified, look at Elite. Real poor software yet certified.

I don't know what kind of plane you fly, but if my Cessna flew like those in the sim did I'd quit flying. Try landing in a 20 knot crosswind in a Cessna 150 in X-Plane and come back here and tell me it handles like the real thing.

Not even close.

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ARE YOU kidding me
http://www.x-plane.com/
http://www.x-plane.com/FTD.html
thanks,

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cant find there old news article about it being certified for all the others...

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This is the first time ANY consumer-priced software has EVER gotten this certification

Notice the way he takes his out, consumer-priced. It's not the first plain and simple, you've been sucked in by Austin. I like the software, I own it, and that's how I know it does not handle like a real plane. The 172 does not fly like any 172 I've ever flown, the C150 does not even come close to how a real one flies.

Look into Elite, it's been around for over a decade and certifed for training purposes. Are you kidding me that you honestly believe Austin has the first out? Not by a long shot.

Keep in mind I like his flight model the best of any out there, and I own them all. But not one of them is realistic when it comes to landing and handling a crosswind, not one.