G3 BETA testers show us your work!!
 

Well since KnifeEdge has officialy stated that their are [link=http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/showpost.php?s=9722c832cca5b88686df50e1d82a3d1c&p= 44289&postcount=179]"are 15 beta testers"[/link]
(myself included) for the upcoming "custom model importer" and everyone is probably tired of seeing my projects -lets see the other 14 guys stuff?

Us G3 users are real anxious to try out some new aircraft so please post some in-game screenshots here of the new planes/helis that you've been creating!

Also lets all introduce oursleves to the users.

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1. nemo uk (correction -off getting shacked up)

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LMAO

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Come on lets see them.


LMBO

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Yes, because since you're the only one to brag about them, you must be the only one doing anything with it...great logic

Wasn't there an NDA involved?

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Posting up pics of aircraft you created for an R/C sim is bragging?

Again -please show me an instance of me bragging?

We were asked not to post screenshots of any beta aircraft. Then awhile ago they began encouraging us to post screens (which was when nemo uk and I started doing it). I haven't seen anything from the 13 other beta testers myself so I am just as curious as the rest of you as to what they've been up to. They will probably be posting up the screenshots here anytime now.

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Hmm, I'm a little with Rick. I too would be a little ticked off when KE just delays and delays then introduces Expansion 1 then now they are gunna delay alittle more.
But I too side with KE on this one. Releasing software full of bugs is not something that whould be done, quality over quantity. Luckily I have only been waiting since December 25th. I can't imagine what it has been liek for guys who have had this thing since the start.

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Please try yo keep the disscusions down to a minimum (or make another thread). This thread is for the G3 beta testers to post screenscaps of the new aircraft we'll be gettting soon. It would be a shame for someone to have to scroll down much further just to see all the pics.

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Sorry, Rick, but one last post. It's hard to tell when your sarcastic or serious. :D

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Rick Delten......... G3 and the guys that have the g3 are lucky to have you in there camp.........you can always come over to the other side where all that you do would be appreciated and you would get a thank you..........Max1[8D]

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Rick, I hate to say that I doubt you will get anymore names on that list as the other 14 are Vaporware in my opinion.

-Mike

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Give me a link to a good metasequia tutorial and I WILL!

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Hey Rick you should find what you need on the last page of this fourm FUNTANA 90 and Seagull HARRIER 3D .90 ARF?? thanks and glad to have you with us..........max1[8D]

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Jim Bourke who owns the [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/index.php]"RC Groups"[/link] forums and is also the General Manager for Knife Edge Software has stated publically that their are 15 beta testers (including myself and nemo uk). nemo uk and myself both post here at "RcUinverse" so the odds are in are favor that some if not all of the 13 other beta testers frequent RCU.

Though I haven't been informed by KnifeEdge that I am no longer part of the "beta team" I am assuming that my being BANNED from their forums also includes being kicked off the "beta team", so I guess that officially leaves 14 others.

Screenshots should start showing up any minute now[:@]

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[link=http://rcp.web.infoseek.co.jp/Rc_hp2/fms/Metasequoia_e.htm]Metasequoia Tutorial[/link]

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Yeah those are the same tutorials that I spent a considerable amount of time trying to learn Meta w/last year. I did make some progress and was able to create the plane in the tutorial, but thats as far as I got. My biggest problem w/Meta is the user interface is so much different than 3DSmax, its like switching from Windows to Linux. We also explored ways to convert the models I create in Max to an .x format that could then be imported into Meta and then exported to the correct format for AFPD. All the methods I tried ended up causing the mesh to get destroyed or basically unusable..

But seriously what models are their even left to make for AFPD?? G3 has like 40-50 models w/all the add-ons and AFPD has what like a 1000 (maybe more)?? AFPD also has quite a few very talented guys creating new stuff (rodeo and lego to name a couple) so its not like I could make much of an impact. I don't have Reflex so thats a dead issue

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Well Rick you are always welcome and anything you did would be greatly appreciated by all of us...........take care and have a great 2006.....Max1[8D]

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Yeah,
I have been following the saga.

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Hey rick

Firstly, sorry for the argument, though i think we both feel differently about things, we should just agree to dissagree. No need cluttering up the forum over stuipid stuff, eh?

Secondly, i dont doubt that there are 15 beta testers, when i was involved in game development, only about 15-20 % of outside beta testers contributed anything, everyone else just wanted something free to play with. I wouldnt doubt that there are more like 4 or 5 active testers...

Lastly, i know exactly what you mean about max vs. metasequoia...or max vs. anything else. Ive tried to learn lightwave, blender, maya, c4d...i still always come back to max...its like my "comfort zone", it just feels right. "Modo" by luxology is kinda nice though...its a new peice of software comming into the market, at a much more reasonable price, sans rendering though (new version will have it, plust support for mental ray)...you should check it out if you like max, and follow the Camera Tutorial on their page, its a good intro to it...

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I used the tutorials and learned enough to get me started. These are a couple of the models that I produced recently.

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Does the update for g3 support helis? Or no?

I am making a render-quality raptor 30 in 3ds right now...but i build with lod in mind, so its not a big deal to cut back the polys...

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Hi Rick,
there is no need to learn Metasequoia. There is an Metasequoia (MQO) import/export plugin for 3DSmax that works very well! :D
Look [link=http://www.maxplugins.de/max7.php?search=mqo]here[/link].

Cheers,
Lego

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Thanks for the apology rjm1982 (you are the bigger man) and I apologise as well. I think we 3D/photoshop guys might be a little thin skinned ;)

Yes I also believe that 15 people signed up for the beta test, but I also believe that thats all they did. Over at the KE private beta forum their was hardly any activity at all the last couple of months and the majority of that was nemo uk and myself.

I use Max cause thats what we all use at my office and I get it for free. I will look at "Modo" thanks!




Yes it does support Helis, in fact it allows for Jets as well. The polygon limit is 11K but I have gone as high as 15K and only notice a slight drop in game performance, I wouldn't go higher than that. As far as your Raptor goes I am afraid nemo uk has beaten you to it (see pic) and already created a gorgeous Raptor 30 for G3, he is extremely talented at creating low-poly models.

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Thanks for that Lego! I am afraid the link to the file I need is dead at the moment but I will keep trying.

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Rick,

if you are interested, we will support you in any stage of model creation.
And regarding the amount of models already available:
I see a lack of typical rc-models from the U.S. market as well as a lack of helicopters.
So I guess there is enough work left for you :D

Regards
Karl-Heinz (Rodeo)
www.rodeo.onlinehome.de

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rc-rodeo thank you very nice post.........Rick there are a lot of planes that you can do....and I have seen what you can do.......very nice work ...the guy's are always asking for new planes and you can see how excited they get when someone helps out and start's building a new model just like the BVM KingCat for AFPD.....take care Max1[8D]

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if i could find some way to get my hands on afpd for a good price, i would prolly pick it up just for practice with making the models...modeling has never been a problem for me, the rigging though, im not so great at...

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Ok I found a working download for the exporter. I attached a pic of what happens when I export one of my models, it seem that I lose all my individually named parts (and their movements), the models surface is no longer smooth and all my texture mapping has vanished. Am I missing something here or do all of these things need to be redone in Meta??

After and Before pics...

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I havent used that program rick, but im assuming its a .3ds file its importing?

3ds file doesnt save smoothing groups, uvw maps, animation, or much of anything, its just pure points in space. You would have to re-do that stuff in the end program to get it.

If its importing a max (unlikely) it would work...

Also, Rick, if its possible, could you show a wireframe of that plane (or any of your planes) ... i havent modeled too many planes before...and i really cant think of how to tackle it...efficiently

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Here are the steps I took.

I opened the completed MAX file in 3dsmax8 and the exported that file as a ".mqo". I then opened the ".mqo" in Meta R2.1 and thats what I got.

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Hi Rick,

Whats the smoothing angle in MLE say for your model ? ....

@ rjm1982, I think the [link=http://www.morrowland.com/apron/article/general/autodesk_3ds/index.php]3ds file format[/link] can contain smoothing groups, UVW cords and animation

regards,

Tony

P.S. not MIA ... I was just on my honeymoon :D

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Sweet, good to know...i know in version 3 they didnt (tells you when i started this)...never looked to see if they were added...silly me!

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1st -Congratulations Tony!

2nd -I am not sure about the "smoothing anlge" in Meta, I think its 60? I dont know much about Meta...

3rd -Any comments about the new "Expansion Pack"?

4th -Do you think their are 13 other guys making new aircraft for G3?

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1st - Congratulations Tony! ... thanks

2nd - I am not sure about the "smoothing angle" in Meta ... I played with Meta a bit when I was trying do some models for FMS. I think you will have to set the smoothing angle for each object again. With regards to materials it seems to import the UVW's ok so all you need to do is create a new material that uses the tga as a texture.

3rd -Any comments about the new "Expansion Pack"? … I think it’s a good thing. I’m just guessing but there must be a point where the new sales slow down and its easier to get an existing customer to purchase an upgrade/add-on than getting a new customer altogether (Ipacs must think the same!) I look at this way … hopefully this will pay for the development time needed to create the new features we keep asking for. If KE ran out of money we would never get any new features.

4th -Do you think there are 13 other guys making new aircraft for G3? … I think there are 13 other guys who signed up for beta. It’s a shame more people haven’t managed to create new aircraft. At least the guys at KE have been quick to respond to our questions (and they have just released an updated beta version BTW)

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Congratulations Tony, I hope its a happy union. On that happy note, I would just like to remind you (Dont forget the WWI planes!!! lol) I really dont see how you guys find the time to do this custom work. I dont think that my life is horribly busy but I couldnt think of when I would find time. What hobby would I give up?! :D

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Hi Prop Nut,
building custom models IS a hobby, so we don't give something up... ;)

Lego

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My wife said that I need to give up a hobby if I want another hobby. I asked her if marriage was a hobby...................not a smart move. :)

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:D:D:D

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You can add me now, i signed up and got in (im SOOO cool :) ) ... i have a model in the works

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Ok I will add you to the list but that makes you the 16th beta tester. There are still 13 beta testers MIA.

What plane you gonna make?

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