RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Can you spell DUH!! That was it, I was flying at a Pano field. Thanks Scott!!

Bob

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

You absolutely have to have the dongle for FSOne to work at all. Beyond that I have no idea, the xbox 360 controller isn't listed in the FAQ's that I see...

http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/

If the Dongle is defective or damaged simply contact Horizon hobbies they'll ask you to ship it to them and at least come up with a way to replace it. May not be for free if your dog ate it :).

The transmitter isn't as much of a problem since any transitter will work; FSOne's transmitter doesn't require a battery or charger, so in my opinion that's better. That said, I don't have their transmitter, I'm using a JR XP662 and it works fine. Takes more time to set it up, but once done you'll not have to worry about it.

Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Good morning,

I just got/installed fs-one and everything went well with the install. The odd thing is that after installing all the patches and getting up to version 1.1 every time I try to switch between planes the sim crashes with an exception c000005. I'll probably have to end up calling their tech support but, I thought I would try hitting you guys up first to see if it was something that was common.

thanks!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Did you also update the video and audio drivers?

Check the faq section out at www.inertiasoft.com go to the support tab for how to go about this, if you don't already know.

I would think that should solve the problem.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

So I have the FSone controller but I lost the friggin proprietary USB to Fsone box connector where the controller plugs in. Where can I get a new one? Actually if there is a way I can use my Futaba T6EX that would be even better!

Thanks

Ken

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Yes, the board is a couple of years old and I have pretty much ruled out the audio being the issue. I totally disabled the onboard sound, and uninstalled bluetooth from my computer to remove all sound drivers and the problem still occurred. Further, I have the latest drivers for my video card and that makes no change either. I talked to one of the guys at Horizon who is the second level support and it worked while I was on the phone with him after he had me turn down audio acceleration but, after a few more tries it started doing the same thing again. I thought I had run into some accidental fix because while I was testing to see what the app was accessing on the hard drive when it crashed it stopped doing it while I was running the Sysinternals monitoring tool. I thought that having the extra lag in the system from the heavy monitoring could have affected something in a positive way, causing a delay which possibly prevented an overflow from happening or the like. But, once I shut it down and came back the next day and tried doing it again I couldn't reproduce it. So, no joy there. Fortunately, I have a second computer that I was able to install it on that, while the video card has an old NVidia 5500 series GPU, seems to work just fine. Not exactly an ideal solution as, "if it doesn't work on your computer just install it on another one" isn't really an option most of the time.

Thanks!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Call the support number on www.fsone.com. If you're a registered user they may be able to help you.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I'm confused (no really), If you've totally disabled the audio "onboard" do you have some other audio card? Unless the video card also has audio?

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

No, it's fine, the way I worded it sort of sounds like I trouble shot the sound problem with tech support after I disabled all the sound. That happened before I disabled/removed the sound drivers. I only removed all the sound after it had worked briefly while on the phone with tech support and then went right back to crashing.

I left the Bluetooth uninstalled since it was just an extra piece to confuse the issue. I am upgrading my computer later in the week so maybe I'll just wait until I swap out the motherboard to see if it starts working then. Worst case at least then I'll have a better chance that it's the video card. Although I guess it would be possible that I could at that point have another motherboard with incompatible chipset or bios but, I would hope that would be the longshot of the two possibilities. I have plenty of free hard drive space (67,3 GB) and 2 GB of memory in this computer so, that isn't the issue.

So far I have tried running FSOne after I:

01. Turned down acceleration on audio - ultra-temporary fix
02. Installed all current OS patches (critical) - no change
03. Defraged the hard drive - no change other than computer was a bit happier
04. Disabled sound - no change
05. Updated video drivers to latest version - no change
06. Disabled DirectDraw, Direct3D, and AGP Texture acceleration - no change
07. Added installation directory to Anti-Virus realtime protection exclude list - no change
08. Temporarily disabled Anti-virus - no change
09. Used MsConfig to disable all startup items except for system services - no change
10. Uninstalled/Deleted Install Directory/Reinstalled - no change
a. Ran program at each stage of installation/patching with same crash at each stage

I might have forgotten something that I have tried in here but, I think this is a pretty complete list.

On an unrelated note; it sure would be nice to remap the instant up and reset buttons on the TacCon to the ctrl and alt key codes while playing the target game. Losing rudder and throttle control and trying to hold the controller with one hand while trying to navigate onto a target just seems like a bad design IMO.

Thanks for any input!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

You've covered alot of ground for sure, but you didn't mention updating the sound drivers. Did you do that.. It's likely the sound drivers are dated something like 2001 or 2005 (integrated audio). Beyond that I'm stumped. It's likely an incompatibility, but finding it is hard. In most of the cases I've helped on it's audio/video drivers and hardware acceleration.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Well, that was part of the problem with the board, the last update for the sound drivers was 2005. Honestly, I have never had any issues with the integrated sound ever. The lack of newer drivers is why I went the route of disabling sound in total via the bios as to avoid loading potentially bad drivers. Even without sound/sound drivers the problem persisted so, I have to assume at this point that I have fairly well isolated sound out of the picture. I am working on the theory that it has to be either a total video incompatibility or a board level component driver that is not interacting well with the app.

I am waiting for tier 2 to call me back again today. Hoping maybe I can get a checked version or the symbols pack (if it exists) for the application that might give them a better idea where the error is being generated. I offered to send them a dr watson log last time and they didn't think it was necessary. Although, I don't blame them since the audio acceleration thing seemed to work at the time. I guess I could just get a cheap video card to test with but, I hate the thought of spending $50 just to test a theory.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I don't think you need to wast bucks on the new video card.. the problem is sound related. FSOne won't run without the sound drivers being up to date. Disabling them and having FSOne sill not function doesn't discount the sound drivers as being at fault. It only tells you that FSOne won't run with sound drivers disabled.
Since you have Horizon Hobby helping you it's probably best you get direction from one source.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

FSONE gurus, I can use your experience.

I am new to flying, and have not much time to fly in real life. As of now, i have a easystar, and my Raven 30V2 is just about finished for spring. How accurate is the stock flight physics for the Vibe 50? Are there changes I should make to help with the flying characteristics to make it fly more like a heli? I have not flown a heli yet so i have no base to compare the flight characteristics to. I am updated to version 1.1.


Are there any rumors of new patches coming out or is FSone out of the sim game?

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Zachesh,

I've actually no idea if it's realistic to the real vibe as I don't own one. But, real model heli's are very hard to fly and even more expensive to fix. I think you're on the right track learning on a sim.
I'd start with the biggest, slowest heli in FSOne and fly that, specifically hover in all orientations and then learn circuits. Look at the tutorials too.
Then move on to the smaller heli's and so on. Once you can fly the Blade CP Pro in FSOne, you'll be ready. You think I'm joking, I'm not. I learned on a blade CPPro and crashed, and crashed and crashed, hey it's expensive and FSOne crashes are free.

Regarding new releases to FSOne, I don't think there are any rumors about new releases. We all hope FSOne's not a has been.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I sent them an e-mail to that affect just today. I really believe they could do a lot of good for themselves if they would just release a few one off new planes, color schemes or open up the specs and tools to create planes. At least that would get some buzz going and maybe generate them enough new income to restart development and dump some money into their support channel.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi All,

I had spoken with Horizon's tech support concerning flight modes on the Blade CP, only to realize after I requested they call me back that the CP doesn't have a different flight mode. OOPS. Scott, thanks for the heads up on how to change the T-Rex to fly more realistic, I've only flown the stock on a handful of times and the modified one flies much closer to my B400.

As to new products, when I was on the phone with tech support the (I spoke with two people) one person said they didn't plan on releasing anything soon, another told me they were, and an e-mail I got back said they were working on a new one but didn't have a release date. I'm hoping its not a dead product, it really is a nice sim, but from what I've been hearing, I'm not holding out much hope.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

That sounds interesting. First I have heard of them even seeming to give any clue or hint of what's going on with FSOne development (since after the heli tutorial update, which to be fair, they also sort of hinted about as I recall and then eventually delivered).

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Ok, working with tech support they suggested I try other sound options. I did, and I still have this stupid c0000005 error. I used a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 card and even turned down the acceleration on that and it did no good.

Adding to the list of things tried:

11. Disabled onboard sound and installed SB Live! 5.1 - same error
12. Removed SB Live/re-enabled onboard sound and replaced video card with known working video card (works with FSone on another computer) - same error
13. Again disabled onboard sound, re-installed SB Live with known good video card - same error

I'm thinking about using a spare drive and just doing a clean install of XP and FSOne just to test it and make sure it isn't some third party app or SP3 that is screwing with it. I am usually up for an adventure like that but, with building a new pc already on the schedule, I may postpone that until after the build is done.

Take care!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

JS3862,

It sounds like you have a deeper problem with the software than the sound card. If the program worked on your other computer but still failed to work on the original, with the apparently functioning sound card, I would think that it is something else. I did a google search on your error code and came up with this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811270

If you have this media viewer on your computer I would suggest trying the fix in this article. Good luck.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Thanks Calman but, the error c0000005 only happens when FSOne crashes, not during startup as the article stipulates. Thanks for looking though!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I don't think I suggested this yet,,, restart the computer in safe mode and run FSOne. Make sure the onboard sound drivers are loaded and make sure you know which video card is active (when starting in safe mode)

If you don't want to start in safe mode to try this disable all startup items and give it a try. As you know, Safe mode will eliminate all software conflicts.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I didn't do safe mode but I did run msconfig and disable all startup items. There was only one video card in the machine at a time so that wouldn't have been an issue. Besides, in safe mode wouldn't the basic drivers keep the sim from running?

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I guess that depends on whether the motherboard has an onboard video/audo. If it does have an on-board Video and Audio than the latest drivers for each (and assuming you have the monitor plugged into the port for the on-board video card) the sim will run. It won't run wicked fast or anything, but it won't crash.

If you have the on-bard video/audio I'd give safe mode a try just to be sure other software products aren't giving you issues.
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Eh, I was thinking of the "VGA Mode" startup option. The board only has on-board audio luckily. I can try safe mode tonight. The other thing that keeps nagging at me is the drive controllers. It seems unrelated but, other than digging down into all of the chipsets and other board level components, the drive controllers might be related to the issue or perhaps the drivers for them.

This Gigabyte board has both Intel and Gigabyte raid controllers on it. The drive that FSOne is installed on is just a JBOD drive but it is attached to and would be affected by the driver/controller.

This problem is just so odd. I have two other simulators on this machine that have never so much as had an audio hiccup and FSOne just keeps crashing.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi Scott and JS,

I think onboard video is a problem if you have it, from when I was researching which sim to get. I remember reading something about how CPU's that share memory for video processing don't play too nicely with high memory users like flight sims. That said, it's funny that your other ones don't have issues with your setup. I have a laptop that I run FS One on that has a switch to let me choose between the GeForce 7400 card and an oboard video (I think that's what it's for) so I'll try to switch back & forth to see if it makes a difference on that machine at least.

Dave