RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

What makes you think that?

Keep in mind, it has good physics and will teach you to fly. If you're looking for lot's of planes than maybe not.

Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

been reading the thread an hear about software probloms

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Well having no other sim, I only use FSOne, so my experiences are limited. If your equipment meets the minumum, that certainly helps, No matter you would need to have the latest audio and video card driver updates, but once it is installed, there are no problems.

I will say that if you do a lot of aircraft modification you can develop some issues, but then all you need to do is go back to the original version of the plane or heli. In extremely rare cases the original was affected, but I personally think that happened as a result of hard drive issues and not the software. FSone can be fussy for some users, as noted in a post several pages ago, but that too may have other outstanding issues.

One thing that's important to note, Horizon Hobby is very careful with their copy protection/software usage rules. This can be used on as many computers as you want, but you'll have to take the USB dongle to each computer. There is no substitute for the dongle. On and another thing, very important, when you get the software installed and running register it with Horizon.

Good that you are checking these things out.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Well more like "developer problems" than "software problems". The software works very well. We're just speculating as to why there has not been new planes added or new features in quite a while. And speculating whether Horizon will ever make anything new for it. I personally believe they will when whatever obstacles they've had in getting the work done are out of the way. The whole thing is somewhat of a paradox because the sim is very good. Big mystery at the moment though.

Good luck in your decision. If you have questions, ask away.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

I went back to using my FS One to give myself some practise with helis. It didn't take me long to remember why I stopped using it a few months ago. So many problems with this simulator.

It might be worth it's current $100 price, but since I was one of the early purchasers at twice that, I feel totally ripped off. Still no proper support, the few patches have been one step forward, one step back. For example, ip until the most recent patch the sound was fine for me, now it regularily cuts out. I have absolutely no other problems with sound on the dozens of games I have played on this pc.

The transmitter is a pain to use - literaly. I don't expect a lot from an included tranmitter, but I don't expect it to be this bad. For some reason it doesn't fit my hands at all, and the quality of the stick mechanism is a joke, my left stick makes groaning sounds and isn't smooth.

The physics on the aircraft are reasonable, not great. The physics on the helicopters are a joke. I bought the hanger pack addon so I could fly the T-Rex 450, the physics are so bad I never used it after the first day.

For other Horizon products I've been very satisfied with the support, but they really dropped the ball with FS One.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

The T-Rex 450 is a disaster. Perplexes me how such a horribly set-up model got in there (apparently 2 or so of the other helis are similar). SO many people bought the Hangar Pack just for the T-Rex. The T-Rex heli model ranks just behind dropping the ball with updates as mistakes go.

It is true that Horizon committed a cardinal sin in the software industry. They produced a "high-end, high priced software product" and then just left it (or so it seems so far). They have not honored the customers' investments with a continuous pipeline of updates as is the norm. Very bad thing to do.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Hi Guys,

Here are the adjustments to make the Trex in the sim fly like others think it should http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_84...tm.htm#8473722 . I don't know anything about those buzz saws so I can't tell you if they're good or not! A couple of guys had said they were bang on so it may be worth a try.

Malcolm, I can empathize with you because I also paid the higher price but I use my Tx rather than theirs. You should try using your Tx rather than the one that came with the program ...it's not too hard to do. It would be nice to see some action from Horizon. I thought that with the price drop they would be making more sales and then the support and refinement would come on, but not much sign of it. I thought of going to one of the other ones but reading their threads they all seem to have some issues. FS One does take a lot of bashing.

Dave

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Thanks Dave, I have tried the mods to the Trex. It did improve things, but not enough.

I may end up using my transmitter with FS One, if I don't end up buying another sim. Based on my experience with Real Flight 4.5 for airplanes (poor physics) I wrote it off for helis as well, but a club member who is an excellent heli flyer highly recommended it - provided you use some of the tweaked models you can download for it. So I may give that a try. But I would prefer to wait until the next generation of flight sims.

Malcolm

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

A club member is selling his copy of FS One for $50. I've got an HP laptop with 1.73ghz processor and .99gb of ram. Should I buy it, or am I asking for troubles?

I have FMS and absolutely hate it. I need practice for F3A maneuvers.

Thanks.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

If it's the one w/ the controller and in like-new condition, I think $50 is a steal. But really w/ 3500 posts to your name, I would have guessed you'd have a sim by now! [8D] I suggest that you compare your specs w/ the requirements online. Check your graphics card. Running on a laptop is not going to give you the best experience. BTW - FMS was not made to do any kind of precision flying and the physics were not intended to be top notch.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Thanks. It does come with a controller. My computer is right at the minimum specs and I don't know much about video cards. I was hoping someone else has been running the same sim with the bare minimum requirements and could talk about how well it worked.

FMS was great to learn coordination. I used it for about 2 weeks until I flew a real plane, then that was pretty much the end of it.

Not going to buy a new computer just for a flight sim.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Joe:

Could your buddy give you the opportunity to try it in your machine first, just to verify capability?
He could install it himself, in order to avoid any claims about CD damage.
If not good, you can just uninstall the program; you could not use it without the peripherial that comes with the cable anyhow.

I have FSOne, but I believe it is limited for practicing F3A maneuvers.
The physics are awesome, but the selection of models are far from F3A; mostly 3D, scale and sport.
The only F3A is a small electric, which I have scaled up to two meters, which performs well, but that is the only one.

The price is good, though.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Thank you, Inewqban.

I figured a decent F3A plane would be available for download by now. Guess I was wrong. I will see if I can try it before I buy it, but may just pass on the whole thing. F3A practice is my primary reason for getting a 'better' sim.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

The F3A model is a Brio from E-Flite:

http://www.modelflight.com.au/eflite/eflite-brio_10.htm

The enlarged model I created flies better than I can.

There are also some models for IMAC.

I am not aware of available F3A downloads, you may want to check the FSOne website.

The good thing about this program is the possibility to scale and edit weight, power, servos, surfaces' deflections, etc. for each model.
That is something that I like to experiment with, since the possibilities are almost endless.

I still think the deal is good at half the regular price; just wait for other opinions here.

Regards!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Just my 2 cents...

Any customizing you do, keep back ups of. For me, when I was customizing helicopters, and I got a model to fly like I wanted that was great. But I'm never satisfied, so I continued to tweak. One tweak too many and that model crashed FSOne. Once that happens, I had to start over from the stock model. Since I did not keep exact and specific notations on what I changed and how much, it was a chore to recreate what I liked.

My lesson was to keep backups, or rather Copy my model if I liked it before I made additional (and fatal) changes. By the way, there shouldn't be anything like a fatal change, I think what happened were software glitches within FSOne and the overcustomized model, but maybe that's an issue that doesn't matter. Once your model crashes FSOne, it has to be deleted.

Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Great advice, Scott, thank you.

Has not happened to me yet, and it is very good to know.

Regards!

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Joe,

If the software doesn't run on your system at first, don't give up. I believe that you have the option of turning certain graphic features (shadows, the amount of details, etc.) off which could let an 'older' machine run FSOne...

Just my $.02

Bob

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

My son has written the following for you because he knows a lot about computers and is willing to help you:

I have the necessary information for you to decide on which computer to go with:

Minimum requirements for FS One (Please note that this information is from the box that comes with FS One and I do not own copyright of the following):

Operating System:
Windows XP or Windows 2000 Pro (with SP3 or later installed)

Memory:

512 Megabytes of RAM

Processor:

Intel Pentium IV with 1.8 GHz or AMD Atlon XP 2500

Hard Drive space available:

4 gigabytes

Graphics Card:

NVIDIA or ATI graphics card with 64 megabytes of video RAM

NVIDIA: GeForce4 Ti, GeForce 5000 series (5200 or better)

ATI: Radeon 9000 series (9200 or better)

The following is what is recommended to have:

Operating System:

The same as the minimum requirements

Memory:

1 gigabyte of RAM

Processor:

2.8 Ghz Intel Pentium IV or better or AMD Athlon XP 3000 or better

Hard Drive space available:

The same as in the minimum requirements

Graphics Card:

NVIDIA or ATI graphics card with at least 128 megabytes or video RAM

NVIDIA: GeForce GeForce 6000 series or 7000 series (6600 or better)

ATI: Radeon X series (X600 or better)

In conclusion:

Your processor is what is holding you back. You have a 1.73 Ghz processor and the minimum requirnments state that you need at least 1.8 Ghz.

Please note that upgrading the processor on a laptop is very difficult and that it might be better if you got a new computer.

I hope that this helps you and please contact me if more help is needed. :)

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

For what it's worth; some of this has already been discussed in the past. Min system requirements are there so that a user has an acceptable experience with the software. Below the minimums and user experience suffers. I've posted on this before, here is one example from my past that explains a little about what happens with below min system requirements.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_42...tm.htm#5788299

Also, in order to run on the laptop with below spec's; 1) like the post I refer to, you may not be able to see the text to know what you are turning on or off 2) you will definately need to turn off any graphics feature (buildings, people, trees, shadows, the list goes on and on)

Best of luck
Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Seems to run OK, but gets hung up once in a while and needs to be restarted.

So this thread is too long to thumb through - I was told there are more plane downloads. Where are they? Google search wasn't helpful.

Thanks for all the help.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Yeah , you can buy hanger pack 1 ,thats were hanger 9 abandoned us on this one . The two downloads are not even worth it and included in HP1 .
Overall I still fly it every once in a while cause it seems to be the only sim that got the tumbles right .

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Story of my life with the forums - I finish reading them just after they die! Thanks for all the good information, though.

I really wanted FS One but I'm not so sure any more after reading all this. 1 vendor I talked to yesterday said it was backordered & didn't know when he would get more but offered me RealFlight Basic - gee a $99 version of RealFlight G4.5.

I need a sim bad - just don't know which one now. The RF G4 demo is keyboard only - couldn't tell a thing, Phoenix was videos only so couldn't see how the control was, & Clearview was OK but I had to calibrate my controller every time I started it but at least I got to try it.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

Get FMS and kick up the wind settings. After you master that, then consider spending a couple hundred on a sim. I prefer G4 and AFPD. I hate G4.5 though and FS-One seemed to be geared toward Hangar 9 planes only and setting up TXes and planes on FS-One was too confusing for me.

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

clp.eng:

I think you'll find that all the participants are still hanging around in this forum. For me, I don't fly the software very much, but then I don't fly the models much either. FSOne software like many of the sim software products will teach you the stick movements. Some folks get hung up with this model or that, and my opinion may be unique, but the sim software is for training your fingers/mind.

FSOne seems to be a dead product, no updates have come in a long time. I cannot imagine anyone buying into the fSOne product now, knowing the slow release schedule of new updates.

If you make the decision anyway to buy FSOne, we'll be around to help.

Scott

RE: FS One by Hangar 9
 

FSone is the best sim out of all the ones have tried. but FMS is excellent for the price. and the newer planes do handle a lot better than the first lot.