Byrons 10% Aero gen 2 Safe To Run?
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Byrons 10% Aero gen 2 Safe To Run?
Hey guys, getting back into flying and stopped at my local hobby shop that I haven't been to in years. I go to pick up some supplies and some fresh fuel to get my engine tuned up again. I used to run SIG Champion 10% but he only sells Byron fuel now, which is fine, I've ran that in my nitro truck and its awesome fuel. That said I later see it is a 10% syn/castor blend...and notice it says super tiger on the stick on label with the nitro & oil percent. I've always ran at least 18% oil content in my engine but will it hurt to run this? My engine is fully broken in but I still don't want to cause pre-mature wear. I'm tempted to add a little more castor to it but then again, I know how much time and money is invested in todays fuels to get them to perform. The engine seems to run fine with it, I've maybe ran a 1/2 tank through it on and off getting her tuned but should I be concerned?
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RE: Byrons 10% Aero gen 2 Safe To Run?
Even Supertigre only recoccomends that low oil fuel for their 3000 and 4500 engines, not the 2300 or anything smaller. I would not use it in any of my engines. Is there any way you can take it back to the store ? All engine manufacturers call for a minimum of 18 - 20% oil. It would be interesting to hear from guys actually running 10% oil, someone is buying the stuff. My LHS pushes it for ALL SuperTigre engines despite what it says in the instructions.
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Hey guys, getting back into flying and stopped at my local hobby shop that I haven't been to in years. I go to pick up some supplies and some fresh fuel to get my engine tuned up again. I used to run SIG Champion 10% but he only sells Byron fuel now, which is fine, I've ran that in my nitro truck and its awesome fuel. That said I later see it is a 10% syn/castor blend...and notice it says super tiger on the stick on label with the nitro & oil percent. I've always ran at least 18% oil content in my engine but will it hurt to run this? My engine is fully broken in but I still don't want to cause pre-mature wear. I'm tempted to add a little more castor to it but then again, I know how much time and money is invested in todays fuels to get them to perform. The engine seems to run fine with it, I've maybe ran a 1/2 tank through it on and off getting her tuned but should I be concerned?
Hey guys, getting back into flying and stopped at my local hobby shop that I haven't been to in years. I go to pick up some supplies and some fresh fuel to get my engine tuned up again. I used to run SIG Champion 10% but he only sells Byron fuel now, which is fine, I've ran that in my nitro truck and its awesome fuel. That said I later see it is a 10% syn/castor blend...and notice it says super tiger on the stick on label with the nitro & oil percent. I've always ran at least 18% oil content in my engine but will it hurt to run this? My engine is fully broken in but I still don't want to cause pre-mature wear. I'm tempted to add a little more castor to it but then again, I know how much time and money is invested in todays fuels to get them to perform. The engine seems to run fine with it, I've maybe ran a 1/2 tank through it on and off getting her tuned but should I be concerned?
You can order SIG fuel directly from them. They're delightful to deal with and their pricing is pretty good. Hazmat fees kinda suck, but if you fly a lot, buying 4 gallons at a time and paying hazmat fees for one case makes it more worthwhile.
If you cannot return it, I'm sure the Gas/Glow guys would buy it from you. They use SuperTigre 10/10 fuel for making Gas/Glow fuel in converted weedy/chainsaw engines using glow plugs. From what I've heard, Byrons isnt making Big ST fuel anymore...
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Dang...so a no go on adding castor? It's already opened up and Ive ran about a tank through it now. Just got back from the field tonight taking her up for the first time in about 2 years. I'll look into either selling it or just buying a gallon with more oil content. Weird thing is I don't see the gallon I have anywhere on Byrons website that they even sell it. All the products they show for aircraft have minimum 18% from what I can tell.
I may order directly from SIG. I'm in NE Iowa and SIG is about 2 hours south of me in Montezuma, IA. Not sure if that makes shipping any cheaper. May be better off taking a road trip and picking some up directly.
I may order directly from SIG. I'm in NE Iowa and SIG is about 2 hours south of me in Montezuma, IA. Not sure if that makes shipping any cheaper. May be better off taking a road trip and picking some up directly.
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Dang...so a no go on adding castor? It's already opened up and Ive ran about a tank through it now. Just got back from the field tonight taking her up for the first time in about 2 years. I'll look into either selling it or just buying a gallon with more oil content. Weird thing is I don't see the gallon I have anywhere on Byrons website that they even sell it. All the products they show for aircraft have minimum 18% from what I can tell.
I may order directly from SIG. I'm in NE Iowa and SIG is about 2 hours south of me in Montezuma, IA. Not sure if that makes shipping any cheaper. May be better off taking a road trip and picking some up directly.
Dang...so a no go on adding castor? It's already opened up and Ive ran about a tank through it now. Just got back from the field tonight taking her up for the first time in about 2 years. I'll look into either selling it or just buying a gallon with more oil content. Weird thing is I don't see the gallon I have anywhere on Byrons website that they even sell it. All the products they show for aircraft have minimum 18% from what I can tell.
I may order directly from SIG. I'm in NE Iowa and SIG is about 2 hours south of me in Montezuma, IA. Not sure if that makes shipping any cheaper. May be better off taking a road trip and picking some up directly.
You're half the distance to SIG as I am, its more worth it for you to road trip there than it is for me. Shipping is $10 per 4-gallon case plus $25 hazmat fee. You'd about break even on cost driving there based on 25mpg. if you get better than that, you'll save a few dollars.
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Thanks for the reply. Makes me wonder why they make a fuel with such low oil content. I know some of the bigger super tigre engines require a lower oil content but in this area there can't be that many out there that my hobby guy is selling that much of it? Wish I would have seen that before I left. I asked for 10% but maybe he interpreted that as 10% oil as well? O'well, I've blown money on worse things lol
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Thanks for the reply. Makes me wonder why they make a fuel with such low oil content. I know some of the bigger super tigre engines require a lower oil content but in this area there can't be that many out there that my hobby guy is selling that much of it? Wish I would have seen that before I left. I asked for 10% but maybe he interpreted that as 10% oil as well? O'well, I've blown money on worse things lol
Thanks for the reply. Makes me wonder why they make a fuel with such low oil content. I know some of the bigger super tigre engines require a lower oil content but in this area there can't be that many out there that my hobby guy is selling that much of it? Wish I would have seen that before I left. I asked for 10% but maybe he interpreted that as 10% oil as well? O'well, I've blown money on worse things lol
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It's not a total waste. Use it in your RC Car. It'll run fine in it. Either that or buy a big SuperTigre.
Maybe ths would be a good excuse to get a big ST...I eventually want to fly the big boys anyway haha.
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RE: Byrons 10% Aero gen 2 Safe To Run?
Well thought I would give a little update. Ran down to DSM this weekend for my little nephews 1yr old bday so while I was down there I had to go the the Hobby Haven. Picked up a couple gallons of SIG champion fuel. 13 bucks a gallon, I thought that was very reasonable.
That said, now I have almost a full gallon of the 10% Byrons that I wont be using. Would there be any harm in sparingly mixing this into the Champion fuel over time to use it up or is it a lost cause? I should just post if up for sale but I don't know that there is a real market for folks wanting to buy nitro fuel, or if there is a lot of folks around here that "home brew" their own fuel.
That said, now I have almost a full gallon of the 10% Byrons that I wont be using. Would there be any harm in sparingly mixing this into the Champion fuel over time to use it up or is it a lost cause? I should just post if up for sale but I don't know that there is a real market for folks wanting to buy nitro fuel, or if there is a lot of folks around here that "home brew" their own fuel.
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RE: Byrons 10% Aero gen 2 Safe To Run?
Dump enough of the 10/10 to leave 112 ounces. Add 16 ounces of oil.
That will give you 128 ounces of fuel that will run just fine in most airplane engines.
Oil 21.25%
Nitro 8.75%
Alcohol 70%
That will give you 128 ounces of fuel that will run just fine in most airplane engines.
Oil 21.25%
Nitro 8.75%
Alcohol 70%