Large scale tools
08-11-2005, 03:06 PM
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Large scale tools
Hi, I've just recently bought a MB and need to buy some decent tools for maintenance etc.
Are the screws etc. imperial or metric?
Thanks.
Are the screws etc. imperial or metric?
Thanks.
08-11-2005, 03:23 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
I was looking for some small (3mm, 4mm, etc.) open end wrenches or a small cresent wrench.
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
08-11-2005, 03:37 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
Forget about the crescent wrenches, their heads are too bulky. Get some standard open end/box end wrenches of a decent quality. They'll do fine.
But for what do you need 3 and 4 mm wrenches? There are no nuts of that size on the car, the smallest ones are 5.5 mm for M3 bolts.
But for what do you need 3 and 4 mm wrenches? There are no nuts of that size on the car, the smallest ones are 5.5 mm for M3 bolts.
08-11-2005, 03:42 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
I have a Duratrax Firehammer that uses 4mm nuts on the shocks and several other places. I thought it also had 3mm but I double checked the exploded diagram and it's just 4mm.
I agree about the bulk of the cresent wrench but I thought if the design was small and clever enough it might work if I can't find some open end wrenches.
Ken
I agree about the bulk of the cresent wrench but I thought if the design was small and clever enough it might work if I can't find some open end wrenches.
Ken
08-11-2005, 03:49 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
No, no, no. The Firehammer, like the FGs, has 4mm bolts for the shocks, so the size of the nuts is 7mm. No need for miniature wrenches.
Nevertheless Snap-On has fine tools in every size
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Nevertheless Snap-On has fine tools in every size
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08-11-2005, 04:11 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
Colin, It's not that hard.... why not just look around on the car, and see what you dont have tools for, then go to the hardwarestore and buy those tools you dont have. If you are unsure, take the whole car with you and im sure they will help you get your missing tools at the store.
These questions have been done before here, and do the search to find out what you would need, or do the easier thing and look at the car and go to the store and look at the tools and you will find it.. or as i said, just bring the whole car.
If you cant figure out what tool to have for the basic service, how would you go about disassemble the parts the right way and get it together again.. the right way ? i know this maybe seams harsh, but the best way to learn is to take it into your own hand, in this kind of situations anyways
Colin, may the force be with you ! You can do this [sm=thumbup.gif]
These questions have been done before here, and do the search to find out what you would need, or do the easier thing and look at the car and go to the store and look at the tools and you will find it.. or as i said, just bring the whole car.
If you cant figure out what tool to have for the basic service, how would you go about disassemble the parts the right way and get it together again.. the right way ? i know this maybe seams harsh, but the best way to learn is to take it into your own hand, in this kind of situations anyways
Colin, may the force be with you ! You can do this [sm=thumbup.gif]
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RE: Large scale tools
Okay, maybe I am really confused here, but here are two parts sets for the Firehammer illustrating the small nuts I am trying to find wrenches for:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=++&search3=Go
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...L=++&search=Go
Am I missing something here. The nuts are tiny. They are 4mm. I don't think a 7mm wrench is going to fit them.
Ken
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=++&search3=Go
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...L=++&search=Go
Am I missing something here. The nuts are tiny. They are 4mm. I don't think a 7mm wrench is going to fit them.
Ken
08-11-2005, 04:31 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
The steering rods (servo saver to hubs) have M4 bolts with 7mm nuts. Hex section of the turnbuckles is 6mm.
The steering push rods (servo to servo saver) have M3 bolts with 5.5 mm nuts. However, the hex section of these turnbuckles is a different thing. It's 4mm. But you'll usually adjust them only once, so pliers will do.
The steering push rods (servo to servo saver) have M3 bolts with 5.5 mm nuts. However, the hex section of these turnbuckles is a different thing. It's 4mm. But you'll usually adjust them only once, so pliers will do.
08-11-2005, 04:32 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
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No, i have not. But maybe we should... to see if he is of the right material to have a monster beetle
No, i have not. But maybe we should... to see if he is of the right material to have a monster beetle
... yeh I understand what your getting at, I do actuallly have the MB in front of me and i have metric allen keys etc... it just seemed to have the teeniest amount of slop though and I didn't want them strippping.Thanks to all that replied.
08-11-2005, 04:41 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
Be carefull with the M6 bolts that hold the gear plate to the engine. I've had some strange experiences with them. First of all they use a lot of loctite on them at the factory, so a pocket torch comes handy. Second there seem to be two sorts of these bolts. One of them is extremly soft, you'll strip them when you try to remove them without the use of the pocket torch. The other one is hardened, you need a cutting disc when you want to shorten them (for some other use), a saw won't do! Chances are that both kinds appear on the very same car.
08-11-2005, 07:38 PM
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I was looking for some small (3mm, 4mm, etc.) open end wrenches or a small cresent wrench.
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
I was looking for some small (3mm, 4mm, etc.) open end wrenches or a small cresent wrench.
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
http://www.kabudle.com/default.aspx?...ID=B0000WUPZ8#
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...id=00942339000
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools...e=snapon-store
08-12-2005, 02:46 AM
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RE: Large scale tools
I said that the heads of crescent wrenches are too bulky. I have to admit that I own an exception to this rule 
. The FG diff drive cup is for size comparison. Max. jaw opening is 3/8".
. The FG diff drive cup is for size comparison. Max. jaw opening is 3/8".
08-13-2005, 05:38 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
ORIGINAL: kengentry5000
I was looking for some small (3mm, 4mm, etc.) open end wrenches or a small cresent wrench.
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
I was looking for some small (3mm, 4mm, etc.) open end wrenches or a small cresent wrench.
In some areas on these cars nut drivers are not useable.
I could not find these at the usual sources. Sizes started around 7mm.
Anyone know of a good source for minature wrenches like this?
08-13-2005, 06:18 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
Good old philips number 2
Various allen heys (from tiny grub screws on throttle links, slightly larger ones on suspension bolts, bolts attaching gear to engine, a arms worm screws, RC plate, upper and lower steering coluns) might need a couple of allen screwdriver for depth/more torque/no space with L allen keys
Various spanners- spark, suspension, to grip servo/steering turnbuckles) £10 can get you a 24 piece spanner set, more than enough - think 6mm-8mm is what you need)
Nut bit and screwdriver for wheel bolts (angled spanner won't fit)
Pliers
Snips
Various allen heys (from tiny grub screws on throttle links, slightly larger ones on suspension bolts, bolts attaching gear to engine, a arms worm screws, RC plate, upper and lower steering coluns) might need a couple of allen screwdriver for depth/more torque/no space with L allen keys
Various spanners- spark, suspension, to grip servo/steering turnbuckles) £10 can get you a 24 piece spanner set, more than enough - think 6mm-8mm is what you need)
Nut bit and screwdriver for wheel bolts (angled spanner won't fit)
Pliers
Snips
08-13-2005, 06:24 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
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Did not see the price on Snap-ON's. For the $155.00, I could have a Master Mechanic work on the car for a week and still give me change.
Did not see the price on Snap-ON's. For the $155.00, I could have a Master Mechanic work on the car for a week and still give me change.
If you're a pro you buy them. For hobby use totally OTT though. A good stanley screwdriver is good enough- don't skimp buying the cheapest tools though (one set of cheapo pliers came rusted up, and I can bend the handles with my hands!!) Feel like Superman!
08-13-2005, 07:44 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
www.harborfreight.com has great tool deals.
I own a lot of the generic stuff they sell and it's all good.
It's where I got my mini-jack (8" long) and the mini jackstands. They just look awesome.
I also got a R/C sized chop saw for 30 bucks. Cuts off threaded rod like butter. Cuts alum bar stock just as easy and has a built in miter table too.
Jack Stands:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90892
Jack:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90767
Saw:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42307
I own a lot of the generic stuff they sell and it's all good.
It's where I got my mini-jack (8" long) and the mini jackstands. They just look awesome.
I also got a R/C sized chop saw for 30 bucks. Cuts off threaded rod like butter. Cuts alum bar stock just as easy and has a built in miter table too.
Jack Stands:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90892
Jack:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90767
Saw:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=42307
08-14-2005, 05:33 AM
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RE: Large scale tools
Cheers to you all, I have bought the main tools I need now. I'll pick some more up as and when i need them.
Thanks for the info..
Thanks for the info..
08-14-2005, 10:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: daytona7
Did not see the price on Snap-ON's. For the $155.00, I could have a Master Mechanic work on the car for a week and still give me change.
Did not see the price on Snap-ON's. For the $155.00, I could have a Master Mechanic work on the car for a week and still give me change.
Gotta pay for those Snap Off tools!
08-14-2005, 07:26 PM
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RE: Large scale tools
Here in Florida we use cheaper labor than you Left coasters and from the same country.
Used to work with a highway emergency service patrol in NJ before I retired and all we used were Craftsman, which also have a lifetime warranty. If they do not have the same model number then they will give you a newer model.
Used to work with a highway emergency service patrol in NJ before I retired and all we used were Craftsman, which also have a lifetime warranty. If they do not have the same model number then they will give you a newer model.
