King Motors Baja Review with pictures
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the marine head comes heavily ported....$55 head kit......... price other 27cc ported head kits starts about $75....wanted to try something different.
the marine head comes heavily ported....$55 head kit......... price other 27cc ported head kits starts about $75....wanted to try something different.
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Has anyone had any issues removing the spur gears off the KM baja?
Has anyone had any issues removing the spur gears off the KM baja?
05-20-2008, 09:58 AM
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Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
05-20-2008, 10:03 AM
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Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product477.html
Or some people put string down in the cylinder and jam it but I do not like the idea of putting something in my engine.
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Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).
Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).
the head kit is $55, the heat sink is $99 ........then use the stock 23 cy that comes with the KM
engine started and runs great
05-20-2008, 01:59 PM
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the head kit is $55, the heat sink is $99 ........then use the stock 23 cy that comes with the KM
engine started and runs great
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Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).
Thats cool, so how did it work? How much total? I plan on doing a head kit and would like a black head (going stealth).
the head kit is $55, the heat sink is $99 ........then use the stock 23 cy that comes with the KM
engine started and runs great
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Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?
Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?
Thats the price for the head kit and heat sink.....now if i seize up the piston or ring I take off the heat sink, I can reuse it over and over
.the entire head kit is only $55 yes ported rated at 4hp http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product1658.html
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Thats the price for the head kit and heat sink.....now if i seize up the piston or ring I take off the heat sink, I can reuse it over and over
.the entire head kit is only $55 yes ported rated at 4hp http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product1658.html
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Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?
Thats $155 for a head kit? You could get a complete kit for that? Is it at least ported and all that fun stuff?
Thats the price for the head kit and heat sink.....now if i seize up the piston or ring I take off the heat sink, I can reuse it over and over
.the entire head kit is only $55 yes ported rated at 4hp http://www.davesmotors.com/store/product1658.html
Fits CY29RC engines or other engines with +2mm stroker if the cylinder is modified or a .040" copper gasket is used.
Will I need to buy a 2mm stroker?
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Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
Got the clip off but cant get the plastic spur gear off!!
Also, how we stop the pinion spinning to remove it?
05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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Will it work with the CY23?
Will I need to buy a 2mm stroker?
Will it work with the CY23?
Will I need to buy a 2mm stroker?
Yes, thats what I used the stock 23 cc CY thats comes with the KM, no stroker needed
This kit can also be used as an air cooled cylinder head, if the Darksoul heat sink is used. In this case, these top ends will also function well as replacement top ends for Zenoah G230RC/G260RC, and Chung Yang CY23RC/CY26RC/CY27RC/GP290
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I am terribly disappointed.
My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.
Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.
Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?
Thanks.
My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.
Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.
Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?
Thanks.
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I am terribly disappointed.
My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.
Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.
Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?
Thanks.
I am terribly disappointed.
My KM baja arrived today and from what I can see the quality is not even close to the real thing. To be honest and fair - it's a piece of crap and a cheap clone.
Things that I have seen until now:
1. Shocks are so bad that they leak. Until now I have rebuilt one, and this is what I found: It was half empty when i got the buggy. It was filled with some kerosene smelling oil, instead of silicone. The parts quality is very bad. It's not even close (except for size and shape) to the real thing in quality. The shock does not have any orings. It only has one thick gasket that cannot hold 25wt oil inside. Shocks don't have HPI adjust technology. It's just a thick piston with two very small holes.
2. Some screws were stripped (one on the rear arm, one on the front arm) (i've removed 8 screws until now, 2 were stripped).
3. Some of the screws/nuts were already rusted.
Guys, please tell me if anyone of you opened the shocks up. Are they how I described or close to the real thing?
Thanks.
You must remember with any "Copy or Clone" it will not be the same as the original! and the price of a KMS baja really says that! the money you have saved can be spend fitting up grade parts that you want to! and really when you look at all the companies selling up grade parts for the Gen baja do you think that is 100% good?
05-20-2008, 05:47 PM
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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures
I wonder why most of the HPI baja owners up grade their shocks to phattys[:-] is it because the stock shocks are great.....No they suck
Thats one of my first upgrades I did on my HPI SS ....phattys and wheel extenders....Open your wallet...welcome to the money pit that all 1/5 hobbiest have fell into
heres a HPI Baja bent shock [X(]
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Thats one of my first upgrades I did on my HPI SS ....phattys and wheel extenders....Open your wallet...welcome to the money pit that all 1/5 hobbiest have fell into
heres a HPI Baja bent shock [X(]
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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures
I have the KM baja - from v*tec.
I have drilled the shock pistons trough the existing holes with a 1mm drill. I am using 25wt in the front, 35wt in the rear. I was lucky to find 4 orings in my pit box. I used those to create better seal.
Are u guys sure that the HPI shock piston parts (85412) are compatible with these shocks?
Thanks,
Edit: Noted that the pull-start doesn't have a metal recoil ring as some of you have.
I have drilled the shock pistons trough the existing holes with a 1mm drill. I am using 25wt in the front, 35wt in the rear. I was lucky to find 4 orings in my pit box. I used those to create better seal.
Are u guys sure that the HPI shock piston parts (85412) are compatible with these shocks?
Thanks,
Edit: Noted that the pull-start doesn't have a metal recoil ring as some of you have.
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Anyone want a KM baja......want it today???....Go to walmart Seriously...talk about distribution[X(] thats alot more exposure than Hpi will ever get.
The market will flood
Seriously...talk about distribution[X(] thats alot more exposure than Hpi will ever get.The market will flood
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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures
I just heard about this from a former customer on another forum... RCU doenst want that website linked here [>:] dont know why
http://www.****************.com/foru...ead.php?t=2671
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I'm going to check it out tomorrow. no shipping charges.... I wonder how much they are going for?
I bet a buyer for walmart is into 1/5 scale and made a deal
http://www.****************.com/foru...ead.php?t=2671
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I'm going to check it out tomorrow. no shipping charges.... I wonder how much they are going for?
That would be the only place that could buy a 40' container full! LOL
05-23-2008, 11:24 AM
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Wow in wallmart? Damn! That is sweet. But I can tell you what's going to happen. HPI is going to take legal action against a company distributing a copied product of a copyrighted product.
Just a little update:
Bent 1 front shock and 1 rear shock; not bad though it is still runable.
The front wheel cracked.
I put my badhorsie's on and they look great.
Put the windows on and man it looks sweet.
Put the outerwears airfilter on. Was a pain
Put rear fasteddy turnbuckles on and those are SWEET.
It is not running right now picause the pin in the rear hex hub fell out. I ordered 18 of them.
It looks as if the rear right hub is cracked and allows wiggle of the toe.
Thats pretty much all I can think of right now.
Just a little update:
Bent 1 front shock and 1 rear shock; not bad though it is still runable.
The front wheel cracked.
I put my badhorsie's on and they look great.
Put the windows on and man it looks sweet.
Put the outerwears airfilter on. Was a pain
Put rear fasteddy turnbuckles on and those are SWEET.
It is not running right now picause the pin in the rear hex hub fell out. I ordered 18 of them.
It looks as if the rear right hub is cracked and allows wiggle of the toe.
Thats pretty much all I can think of right now.
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Wow in wallmart? Damn! That is sweet. But I can tell you what's going to happen. HPI is going to take legal action against a company distributing a copied product of a copyrighted product.
Wow in wallmart? Damn! That is sweet. But I can tell you what's going to happen. HPI is going to take legal action against a company distributing a copied product of a copyrighted product.
the product had been out over 3 years.....plus there is enough of a difference to say it not a 100% copy
Return and exchange lines might get alittle longer
If walmart really has these...I'm sure they have cheecked out the legalities
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RE: King Motors Baja Review with pictures
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Nope the copywright is only good for awhile (I believe 1 yr).....research it.
the product had been out over 3 years.....plus there is enough of a difference to say it not a 100% copy
Return and exchange lines might get alittle longer
If walmart really has these...I'm sure they have cheecked out the legalities
Nope the copywright is only good for awhile (I believe 1 yr).....research it.
the product had been out over 3 years.....plus there is enough of a difference to say it not a 100% copy
Return and exchange lines might get alittle longer
If walmart really has these...I'm sure they have cheecked out the legalities
Couple brief points for you:
#1) Copyright has nothing to do with this - rather, we are concerned with trade dress, trademarks, trade secrets, and/or patents.
#2) Patents are good for 20 years from filing date; copyrights are generally good for 70 years plus life of the author; trademarks and trade dress can be perpetual.
Don't be so quick to assume anything with respect to legality.
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make the item have a 10% difference which they do......and any patent or copyright is null and void
Why dont we hear about any actual lawsiuts or pending ones.... these clones have been out for over a year now..they are still on ebay being sold by importors.
And now a major nation wide chain store is importing and selling these?? If thats true and they have these in stock....I'm sure they crossed their Ts and dotted their I s
Why dont we hear about any actual lawsiuts or pending ones.... these clones have been out for over a year now..they are still on ebay being sold by importors.
And now a major nation wide chain store is importing and selling these?? If thats true and they have these in stock....I'm sure they crossed their Ts and dotted their I s