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I as looking at purchasing a 2m Spirit. I like many of the qualities it has, and I plan on just building it RES so that if the inclination ever strikes I'll try to fly it competitively.
The question is (and it is very subjective I know) What are the planes that people like in the 2m RES class. I'm not a great builder, but I do want to build it and I would like it to be under $100, so that cancels out the molded guys. Thoughts? Reasons? Pictures?
The question is (and it is very subjective I know) What are the planes that people like in the 2m RES class. I'm not a great builder, but I do want to build it and I would like it to be under $100, so that cancels out the molded guys. Thoughts? Reasons? Pictures?
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I would consider the Kestral 2-M from www.northeastsailplane.com
Or maybe the Crysalis from DJaerotec......Brian
Or maybe the Crysalis from DJaerotec......Brian
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Hard to beat the Goldberg Gentle Lady. I have an Electra, the electric version, which I converted BACK to a GL. Many people will recommend this bird and I'm one of them.
A freind of mine has the Spirit 2M and loves it every bit as much as I like my Electra/GL . It will float and thermal almost as well as the GL but is faster and can fly inverted.
Neither plane has spoilers and neither plane needs 'em.
A freind of mine has the Spirit 2M and loves it every bit as much as I like my Electra/GL . It will float and thermal almost as well as the GL but is faster and can fly inverted.
Neither plane has spoilers and neither plane needs 'em.
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It will float and thermal almost as well as the GL but is faster and can fly inverted.
It will float and thermal almost as well as the GL but is faster and can fly inverted.
You're right on about the speed though. A GL becomes useless expodentially as the windspeed increases whereas the Spirit will penetrate much easier.
A Kestral will have even better penetration due to a thinner section (S3021 I believe) but for the price it's hard to beat the Spirit as a poly 2m.
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I as looking at purchasing a 2m Spirit. I like many of the qualities it has, and I plan on just building it RES so that if the inclination ever strikes I'll try to fly it competitively.
The question is (and it is very subjective I know) What are the planes that people like in the 2m RES class. I'm not a great builder, but I do want to build it and I would like it to be under $100, so that cancels out the molded guys. Thoughts? Reasons? Pictures?
I as looking at purchasing a 2m Spirit. I like many of the qualities it has, and I plan on just building it RES so that if the inclination ever strikes I'll try to fly it competitively.
The question is (and it is very subjective I know) What are the planes that people like in the 2m RES class. I'm not a great builder, but I do want to build it and I would like it to be under $100, so that cancels out the molded guys. Thoughts? Reasons? Pictures?
http://www.skybench.com/slbird.html
Sink rate comparable to a Gentle Lady and a better airfoil for moving out when you have to.
Also, if you can find one on ebay or RCU, try for an Airtronics Sagitta 600
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Second on the Lil' Bird-Nice looking, easy build...Also check out the Sovriegn by Laser Arts, also laser cut, looks and flies great-
http://members.aol.com/laserartco/page10.html
http://members.aol.com/laserartco/page10.html
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Surely you jest...perhaps you mean it will come down less quickly upside down than a GL will?
Sam (my friend) has made two minor in terms of building modifications. He set the incidence to 0 rather than the couple degrees of positive called for on the plan. He installed the aluminum wing joiner intended for the two piece wing but glued it solid.
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Originally posted by greg
OUTSIDE LOOPS!. You should hear that wing roar when its over your head upside down and pulling negative Gee.
OUTSIDE LOOPS!. You should hear that wing roar when its over your head upside down and pulling negative Gee.
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SHOE:
I'm thinking you may want to take another look at those airfoils... at 10% thickness, the s3021 is AT LEAST as bulky as the Gentle Lady... if your GL won't go fast, it's not because of the wing. The Spirit generally penetrates better than the Gentle Lady because the Spirit's got a cleaner fuselage and it's heavier.
I do like the Spirit -- it's certainly a better quality kit and I've flown the plane and built a couple of them -- but other than in pretty heavy air (at least 15kts sustained) a Spirit is no Shoe-in over a well built GL. (Sorry 'bout the pun... couldn't help myself )
You're right on about the speed though. A GL becomes useless expodentially as the windspeed increases whereas the Spirit will penetrate much easier.
A Kestral will have even better penetration due to a thinner section (S3021 I believe) but for the price it's hard to beat the Spirit as a poly 2m.
A Kestral will have even better penetration due to a thinner section (S3021 I believe) but for the price it's hard to beat the Spirit as a poly 2m.
I do like the Spirit -- it's certainly a better quality kit and I've flown the plane and built a couple of them -- but other than in pretty heavy air (at least 15kts sustained) a Spirit is no Shoe-in over a well built GL. (Sorry 'bout the pun... couldn't help myself )
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Originally posted by Al Stein
SHOE: I'm thinking you may want to take another look at those airfoils... at 10% thickness, the s3021 is AT LEAST as bulky as the Gentle Lady... if your GL won't go fast, it's not because of the wing. The Spirit generally penetrates better than the Gentle Lady because the Spirit's got a cleaner fuselage and it's heavier.
SHOE: I'm thinking you may want to take another look at those airfoils... at 10% thickness, the s3021 is AT LEAST as bulky as the Gentle Lady... if your GL won't go fast, it's not because of the wing. The Spirit generally penetrates better than the Gentle Lady because the Spirit's got a cleaner fuselage and it's heavier.
btw nice pun
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Of course it's kind of a moot point since the Spirit 2m has a S3010
Anyhow, my real point was that they're both very good planes and a cleaned-up Gentle Lady is even pretty fast -- but it'll never do an outside loop and like you indicated, the Spirit probably will get to the next thermal faster.
Boy am I ever getting anxious for Spring to come!
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Originally posted by Al Stein
Boy am I ever getting anxious for Spring to come!
Boy am I ever getting anxious for Spring to come!
***rubs it in a little***
here in CA we fly year 'round