Just wondering if its time to remove the training gear can hold steady hover any height and land softly should i now remove it or wait till ive masterd nose in????

well... I have never used any trainer gear.
My trainer sad it was mush easyer to learn with out them because the heli dosen't fly any good with the training gears on.
So yust take them off, I have been flying 11 times now and hasen't been close to crash because Id dosen't have the training gear.

If you want to master nose in right now keep them on, no harm in it.

Another option is to make some intermediate gear. I stuck practice golf balls (miniature whiffle balls) on the ends of an 18 inch carbon fiber rod (from the gear you have now? ) and just attached it to the rear skid supports with wire ties. works great. still impossible to tip it over, but a lot lighter than the regular training gear. if you raise the rod just a bit off the skids the skids is what you land on but the littel balls are there to keep it from tipping if you need them.

Today my dad and I removed the training gear. I was a little nervous. I was kind of worried about taking off because I was thinking if it got light enough to tip over but not enough to take off yet I could wreck it. Never encountered that problem though. I'd say if you can land soft enough go ahead.

Once you can lift off and land without danger of tipping over or digging in the skids, then remove the training gear. They don't help a whole lot when you spank the ground from 8 feet. I removed mine after the first week when it was apparent that I could land it and hover it without tipping the blades into the ground.

Practicing figure eights and things works much better without the gear. And as a recommendation from someone who is probably only a gallon of nitro ahead of you, save nose in for later. Figure eights, broadside hovering and circuits will make you more comfortable with almost-nose-in orientation before you do the full monty.

However, if you are braver, have done buckets of hours on the sim or flew RC planes for years, my advice does not apply.

Quattro27

I'm with Rototiller on this one, lose the gear as soon as you can. If you can hover ok and land, then it has served its purpose. IMHO, its only a training device, nothing more.

The other thing you will notice is that the helicopter has slightly different flight characteristics with the training gear off, i.e. it is lighter, the rotor wash doesn't catch on the gear anymore, and also one tends to become reliant on the training gear for orientation.

You will also find, as I did, that landing without the gear is not as hard as you think it is

I think it is a good time to loose them. I like learning new things on the sim. It really helped with the nose in. I flew for years without doing much of it and then perfected it on G2. It is nice. Saves a lot of blades.

ok looks like ill lose them next time out thanks for advice boys

well ive done it and it looks like the training gear is now going to be mothballed oh wow wat a difference it makes without them much more responsive