Has anyone flown the Colco Apache?Is it a good first heli or is it just a toy?

Ihad one, and would not recommend it.

It looked poorly made and did not fly well IMO.

If you want a nice co-ax go with the Eflite CX2 or CX3. Or the Walkera 5 #10, or a Esky LamaV4.

Thank you. How about the esky co-comanche?Is that any good?Kinda looking for a scale militart beginners heli (if it exists)........Thanks.

<font color="#0000ff">ejh1850, welcome!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">E-Sky are a long running company that have good quality products (they make the Lama V4 as mentioned above!), they are one of the oldest companies to produce electric helis and have built a good reputation!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">there are several helis that are co-axial (i.e. contra-rotating rotor heads on the same axis) and it is worthwhile to have a browse through the many different web sites and magazines</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">if you're into scale military; there are a couple of companies that also produce a dual co-axial version of the chinook/ sea knight which is very cool looking!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">the co-axials are inherently more stable than a single rotor but they tend to lack performance a bit when progressing to Fast Forward Flight but saying that they are brilliant for learning to hover in every attitude (nose in, nose out, etc.) and traning muscle memory</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">the slight advantage with the E-Sky helis is that they come with a confuser dongle and the shareware FMS flight simulator so you have your practice platform already but if you really feel that money burning a hole in your pocket then there are other more in depth sims ranging from $50 (clearview sim available online) to a couple of hundred bucks; up to you!!!!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">other thing to remember is that <u>most</u> co-ax's are really intended for indoor use only so be aware you will probably need a bit of space, especially when first flying!!!

hope this helps, any more info you need just ask! all of your questions answers can be found on these forums with a little looking!

Matty )&lt;&gt;}}}}}}}]@&gt;</font></p>

Thanks so much for the info. One more question......is Esky Hunter as good as the Lama 4? I narrowed it down to co-comanche vs hunter. What's your opinion?

<font color="#0000ff">i bought the Dauphin for my kid brother, which is essentially the same as  the co-comanche and he had it up and hovering around the living room the first afternoon! have seen the hunter on x-heli and thought it to be a nice looking heli (reminds me of a Gazelle!!??) and it's agood size too, so you could get some outside time with it in gentle to no breeze!!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">either one would be entertaining!</font></p>

<font color="#0000ff">Matty )&lt;&gt;}}}}}}]@&gt;</font></p>